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US showing them who is their massa 🤣. Got them to get sweden into NATO and then gave them f16 for 23 billion dollars and gave greece F35s. Now bullying them further because US knows turkey will have to lick their ass to get any western fighter and even whole KHAN project is dependant on them.
SAAAR PLS DELIVER F16 SAAR U ALREADY TOOK MY MONEY SAAR!!! :hail::crying:
 

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Americans are still making them pay the fees of hangars that the F35 they were supposed to get are kept.

>You can't get these jets:truestory:
>You can't get a refund:troll:
>You have to pay (((maintence fees))) for these jets that you can't use :bplease:

I now know why we're loyal customers of Roosi and Baguette only.
 

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US showing them who is their massa 🤣. Got them to get sweden into NATO and then gave them f16 for 23 billion dollars and gave greece F35s. Now bullying them further because US knows turkey will have to lick their ass to get any western fighter and even whole KHAN project is dependant on them.
If Congress blocks their engine plans for the Kaan, they'll have no choice but to get engines from China or Russia. Should be a good catalyst for their quick eviction from NATO. Turkey is a rogue state responsible for most of the problems in the neighborhood and a staunch advocate for ethnic cleansing. A leech sucking off NATO tech since they were allowed a corner spot on the club couch, using their geographical location and this club membership to get what they want. They need the paxtan treatment, no F-16 deal should be entertained. Let their fleet slowly rust away, there's a limit on how many sub-components they can indigenize with their imported army of engineers, without direct OEM support. Arm Greece to the teeth with Rafales and F-35s, and the next time Turkish air force acts uppity, shoot their birds down. Fund and heavily arm militants or mercs to hunt down Turkish expeditionary forces and remove their presence abroad. The Turkish economy is already hanging from a thin thread, the moment they get booted from NATO it'll collapse.
 

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If Congress blocks their engine plans for the Kaan, they'll have no choice but to get engines from China or Russia. Should be a good catalyst for their quick eviction from NATO. Turkey is a rogue state responsible for most of the problems in the neighborhood and a staunch advocate for ethnic cleansing. A leech sucking off NATO tech since they were allowed a corner spot on the club couch, using their geographical location and this club membership to get what they want. They need the paxtan treatment, no F-16 deal should be entertained. Let their fleet slowly rust away, there's a limit on how many sub-components they can indigenize with their imported army of engineers, without direct OEM support. Arm Greece to the teeth with Rafales and F-35s, and the next time Turkish air force acts uppity, shoot their birds down. Fund and heavily arm militants or mercs to hunt down Turkish expeditionary forces and remove their presence abroad. The Turkish economy is already hanging from a thin thread, the moment they get booted from NATO it'll collapse.
You can't just fit any engine on a jet.
If murricans doesn't provide them the engines their program is dead.
 

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They can redesign it a bit to shove two AL-31s in. Similar dimensions to the F110.
I don't think it works like that. You can't just shove any engine even with similar dimensions unless you design the plane in its inception for that. If they had designed that keeping in mind of F110 only, then their program is as good as dead. Even if Americans supplied engine, you now have a fleet of 5th gen Aircraft that is dependent on US goodwill for spareparts and maintenance for next 50 years. Unless they redesign the plane for a domestic engine which is near impossible.
 

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They can redesign it a bit to shove two AL-31s in. Similar dimensions to the F110.
It is not that easy to put al31s or even al41s. Given they're air mass flow Rate is widely different they're is a major problem which kaan with even f110 could face will need alot of work to solve that this 5gen aircrafts have serpentine intakes Which this engines were never made for mean the airflow needed for this massive engines is alot serpentine Intakes are not just straight open like in su30s or f15s..
Serpentine has limitations they limit airflow They will have to work alot on this issue. And later putting any other engine on it will be almost impossible.
I dont think any Russian alternative might work here maybe Chinese one could work. As they had multiple ones for they're j20. They won't hesitate to supply initial engines used. But that too will need alot of re-engineering of project.

They are using the same engine they use on f16. Lets see will uncle Sam army twist them or not. They are saying they will indigenously develop one turbo fan by 4 years which is impossible even if they would have said 15-20years. They have one option of rolls Royce there is no way they will get ipr and neither they will be independent. Can be army twisted here too.. Safran is alone Demanding 6 billion euros for co developing. Imagine what will rr demand. Given Turkish economic conditions highly unlikely they could afford it. If u noticed initially they're were so many reports of Turks going with RR but all of those things we used here have came to end. Nothing's seems to be progressing with RR. As they won't give even a shit of technologies to this undeserving turds for some penny dollars.
 

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It is not that easy to put al31s or even al41s. Given they're air mass flow Rate is widely different they're is a major problem which kaan with even f110 could face will need alot of work to solve that this 5gen aircrafts have serpentine intakes Which this engines were never made for mean the airflow needed for this massive engines is alot serpentine Intakes are not just straight open like in su30s or f15s..
Serpentine has limitations they limit airflow They will have to work alot on this issue. And later putting any other engine on it will be almost impossible.
I dont think any Russian alternative might work here maybe Chinese one could work. As they had multiple ones for they're j20. They won't hesitate to supply initial engines used. But that too will need alot of re-engineering of project.

They are using the same engine they use on f16. Lets see will uncle Sam army twist them or not. They are saying they will indigenously develop one turbo fan by 4 years which is impossible even if they would have said 15-20years. They have one option of rolls Royce there is no way they will get ipr and neither they will be independent. Can be army twisted here too.. Safran is alone Demanding 6 billion euros for co developing. Imagine what will rr demand. Given Turkish economic conditions highly unlikely they could afford it. If u noticed initially they're were so many reports of Turks going with RR but all of those things we used here have came to end. Nothing's seems to be progressing with RR. As they won't give even a shit of technologies to this undeserving turds for some penny dollars.
The Turks are never going to get any ToT from any western country & I'm including Russia in those western countries, be it for 6 billion USD or 60 billion USD. What they'd most likely get is a derivative of the Eurojet EJ200 TF that too minus IPR only coz RR is in dire straits financially speaking.

Ofc this too is subject to the other partners namely Spain Italy & Germany not objecting to the deal of which there seems little likelihood.

The last option being Turkey goes in for the futuristic 6th Gen Alternative Cycle Engine ( ACE) RR is developing for the UK Japan Tempest program which again is an off the shelf purchase with massive modifications at an equally massive price minus any IPR.

Both these options means Turkiye will be handing over its balls to the British & we all know too well how good are the British in extracting a price while squeezing balls as Turkiye will soon find out.
 

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The Turks are never going to get any ToT from any western country & I'm including Russia in those western countries, be it for 6 billion USD or 60 billion USD. What they'd most likely get is a derivative of the Eurojet EJ200 TF that too minus IPR only coz RR is in dire straits financially speaking.

Ofc this too is subject to the other partners namely Spain Italy & Germany not objecting to the deal of which there seems little likelihood.

The last option being Turkey goes in for the futuristic 6th Gen Alternative Cycle Engine ( ACE) RR is developing for the UK Japan Tempest program which again is an off the shelf purchase with massive modifications at an equally massive price minus any IPR.

Both these options means Turkiye will be handing over its balls to the British & we all know too well how good are the British in extracting a price while squeezing balls as Turkiye will soon find out.
Ravan is one guy with 10 heads
This head may be wearing a top hat and monocle but we all know it belongs to the same star-spangled invidual with whom Turki is doing trolling since S400 purchase.

Their KAANe will always be limited by phoren suppliers
 

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Seems like the Mehmets are not reproducing anymore. Either they've fallen back to "Greek Love" which is perfectly natural considering you were Greek not very long ago or have now become a bunch of nonoş which is the same thing.

I hope the implications of these events are clearly understood. Given that the areas where the population has a healthy rate of TFR is primarily concentrated in the Kurdish areas it wouldn't be inconceivable that in a few generations Turkiye would be renamed Kurdiye or Kurdistan & your national language would be Kurdish.

@MysticBuzz ; @tfxkaanf23

Alhamdulillah!!
 

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Seems like the Mehmets are not reproducing anymore. Either they've fallen back to "Greek Love" which is perfectly natural considering you were Greek not very long ago or have now become a bunch of nonoş which is the same thing.

I hope the implications of these events are clearly understood. Given that the areas where the population has a healthy rate of TFR is primarily concentrated in the Kurdish areas it wouldn't be inconceivable that in a few generations Turkiye would be renamed Kurdiye or Kurdistan & your national language would be Kurdish.

@MysticBuzz ; @tfxkaanf23

Alhamdulillah!!
And also they are leaving there country at high rate..
Anyways expect tfr to fall even more as how can one afford to have kids when u have 70% official Inflation. Kurds from Iraq Syria should settle down in Turkey and make it kurdey.
 

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Seems like the Mehmets are not reproducing anymore. Either they've fallen back to "Greek Love" which is perfectly natural considering you were Greek not very long ago or have now become a bunch of nonoş which is the same thing.

I hope the implications of these events are clearly understood. Given that the areas where the population has a healthy rate of TFR is primarily concentrated in the Kurdish areas it wouldn't be inconceivable that in a few generations Turkiye would be renamed Kurdiye or Kurdistan & your national language would be Kurdish.

@MysticBuzz ; @tfxkaanf23

Alhamdulillah!!
They will also call themselves "Proud Kurds" and "100% pure Kurdish blood"
The people living on anatolia have been total cucks since the past 4k years
Always switching their etnicity to the "winning side" absolutely pathetic

Being a side-switching bitch is in their blood.
 

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