Trudeau accuses Indian government of involvement in killing of Canadian terrorist

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I dont think GoI is behind this at all. Many things don’t add up. For example, even the stupidest babu would have known the risk of taking out a terrorist in a G7 NATO country. India is important to the US but not that important to jeopardize a relationship with an extremely close NATO, 5i neighbor. No way. Also, They would have known that 5is is a credible intelligence network. RAW would have lured the terrorist to some other country that cannot accuse India and where Intel cannot be easily gathered and did the hit job there. India has been playing the intel game for a long, long time now and won’t be making noob mistakes.
‘What I am doing is speculating if we did a hit job, we would have done it only if we are 100% sure that Canada won’t raise it publicly as uncomfortable secrets about the Canadian intelligence grooming these snakes would come out. Trudeau did go rogue, which could mean we may not have been able to get solid intel showing Canada involved in terror financing. All this would have been assessed - so the chances are that we would not have taken the risk. Unless if some officers in RAW went rogue and decided to take matters into their own hands. This is also very possible. The intelligence world is very murky and intelligence officers turning rogue is not that uncommon.
Doesn't quite explain why's Modi & the usually loqacious Jaishankar not come out with a single peep after Turdreau made his sensational claims on the floor of the Canadian parliament. Convention demands that Modi go on the floor of the LS to issue a stinging rebuttal to Turdreau's charges apart from going the whole hog detailing the entire sordid history of the Khalistani movement & the protection they've received from the Canadian state resulting in the loss of lives in India even as we're speaking, especially the Kanishka bombing.

I'd go with your previous theory that the 5i's have something on us that we know they know we did it , just that it isn't admissible evidence in a court of law , judging strictly by evidentiary value as laid down under the CrPC of any nation operating on the principle of British common law like Canada & India do & the US too to a large extent.

Arguably this was supposed to be used by the 5i's to corner India during the G-20 & extract promises that we won't do an encore . What Turdreau did was jump the gun & not consult with big brother - the US before going public with his allegations just to divert public attention from the sticky political position he's in .

While this may cause outrage within the establishment , outwardly they can't abandon Canada or pooh pooh their allegations. To that extent Turdreau's sufficiently put the alliance into a spot & given the nature of the evidence at hand especially it's point of origin he can't go public with it .

If this assassination was indeed planned by R&AW , it'd have to have been planned in India . For the execution , the channels are the very same ones Khalistanis in Canada have been using to carry out assassinations in the Punjab. It works both ways as this assassination proves.
 

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Or maybe we have done this before. Or thought that, this time too Canada will remain silent. But US has other plans.

Either way, What is done is done.
The question is not whether we did the deed or not. It doesn't matter for the west is accusing us of doing it, and this won't no matter how we deny it. It will stick.

Nor our own people want it to be false. Dare I say, the thing being false will be more detrimental to Modi then not doing it. Especially, with how the Khalistanis are raging it.

So, we have to plan how to thrive inspite of this fallout. I am confident that we can do it. It will be difficult, but will not be the most difficult thing we did till now
At the end of the day, this thing has:
- exposed Canada harboring Khalistani terrorists. They cannot get India to own up to the hit if we did it without also acknowledging that they were harboring and financing these terrorists all along.
- khalistanis are now scared. They know that they are no longer safe and that they can never travel outside of Canada.
- might wake up the Indian diaspora and regular Canadians once and for all who then demand that Canada expel these terrorists, especially if most of the diaspora and white businesses get affected by visa ban.
- lesser countries like Porkis are probably shivering now that if India can do it in a G7 country, they can do it all day long in a failed nation like Pakshitstan.

So there are positives for us even if everything goes quiet. Beyond this it is hard to tell what is going to happen especially if Trudeau is a joker and falsely thinks that he can defame India for electoral gains in Canada.
 

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we don't have to assume GoI is behind this murder, such an assumption restricts our discourse.
when news came in june, almost every one said it was inter gang rivalry.

if CSIS allegedly knew about this, then it's RCMP's fault in failure to protect it's alleged citizen.

making the most of every death is a classic commie trick, there will be a post of mine on an incident i know of. last thing we need is India-canada's relationship taken hostage to trudeau family's madness.

canada is not an enemy country. no matter how much empty spaces try to disrupt the relationship, India-canada relationship will normalise at some point in time.

but until then, diplomatic posturing and messaging has to continue.
It comes down to one of three possibilities:
1. He was taken out by Col RAWjesh as part of their strategy to tackle the K problem overseas. Maybe RAW has been given more powers and resources with a newly created counter-K desk. The powers of this desk go beyond gathering intel - rather given a '00' status. And the good Col hired a Mr LAWrence for the win

2. He was killed by the Canadians as a false flag to pin the blame on India, hoping to stoke the fires of K nationalism. All the reasons relating to tempering India's rise and cutting it down to size support this theory

3. He was taken out by rival gangs in an internecine rivalry. This is the least likely because there seems to little discord between the various K factions. Either they have patched it up or we haven't done enough to keep it going

IMO - it's #2. CIA and others relentlessly continue the west's agenda of furthering their civilizational superiority. In this case it failed spectacularly - the Sikhs didn't rise up in protest against Modi and instead it only rallied everyone around him.

And perhaps they wanted Castro Jr to take the normal steps like letting the media break the story and expelling a diplomat with the usual noises. Instead blackface went full retard and blabbered all over parliament because he was pushed to the wall by Polievre on domestic matters and was desperate to save his skin. That would explain why the US seemed to be caught offguard initially and took it's time to come up with a coherent response.
 

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Doesn't quite explain why's Modi & the usually loqacious Jaishankar haven't come out with a single peep after Turdreau made his sensational claims on the floor of the Canadian parliament. Convention demands that Modi go on the floor of the LS to issue a stinging rebuttal to Turdreau's charges apart from going the whole hog detailing the entire sordid history of the Khalistani movement & the protection they've received from the Canadian state resulting in the loss of lives in India especially the Kanishka bombing.

I'd go with your previous theory that the 5i's have something on us that they know we know we did it , just that it isn't admissible evidence in a court of law , judging strictly by evidentiary value as laid down under the CrPC of any nation operating on the principle of British common law like Canada & India do & the US too to a large extent.

Arguably this was supposed to be used by the 5i'sto corner India during the G-20 & extract promises that we won't do an encore . What Turdreau did was jump the gun & not consult with big brother - the US before going public with his allegations just to divert public attention from the sticky political position he's in .

While this may cause outrage within the establishment , outwardly they can't abandon Canada or pooh pooh their allegations. To that extent Turdreau's sufficiently put the alliance into a spot & given the nature of the evidence at hand especially it's point of origin he can't go public with it .

If this assassination was indeed planned by R&AW , it'd have to have been planned in India . For the execution , the channels are the very same ones Khalistanis in Canada have been using to carry out assassinations in the Punjab. It works both ways as this assassination proves.
Maybe. But the doubt comes from whether India would really take out a target in a G7 NATO 5i country? The downsides are big if we got caught. Either people decided that we don’t care if we get caught as there are other objectives that we will win on or Doval/RAW are foolish. Both options seem impossible as India has done several intelligence ops in foreign countries and knows the risks.
 

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B*hencho* too much 'dhoti shivering' in this thread.

Plenty of losers here.

I going to repeat again, hunting of Khalistani pigs will not stop in the overseas. Come what may.
This is very possible. We may have finally run out of patience as all the RCNs were ignored by Canada and others and said let’s just go for the kill.
 

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💥💥💥 Khalistani radicals and Kuki terrorists joining hands against Bharat on Canadian Soil.

Lien Gangte chief of NAMTA {a kuki separatist organisation} was spotted in Surrey Gurudwara in Canada. Khalistani terrorist Hardeep Nijjar was the head of this Gurudwara.

In others words proving that the Kuki nonsense was provoked by US and Israel and the Khalistani nonsense was provoked by US and Canada.
 

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Only Asian block agreed to join hands. Unfortunately China is a bitch and Russians consider themselves as Europeans than Asians.


But if our Mea played properly we can have a alliance with GCC
if china was not china, we could have joined there. west know it.
 

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It comes down to one of three possibilities:
1. He was taken out by Col RAWjesh as part of their strategy to tackle the K problem overseas. Maybe RAW has been given more powers and resources with a newly created counter-K desk. The powers of this desk go beyond gathering intel - rather given a '00' status. And the good Col hired a Mr LAWrence for the win

2. He was killed by the Canadians as a false flag to pin the blame on India, hoping to stoke the fires of K nationalism. All the reasons relating to tempering India's rise and cutting it down to size support this theory

3. He was taken out by rival gangs in an internecine rivalry. This is the least likely because there seems to little discord between the various K factions. Either they have patched it up or we haven't done enough to keep it going

IMO - it's #2. CIA and others relentlessly continue the west's agenda of furthering their civilizational superiority. In this case it failed spectacularly - the Sikhs didn't rise up in protest against Modi and instead it only rallied everyone around him.

And perhaps they wanted Castro Jr to take the normal steps like letting the media break the story and expelling a diplomat with the usual noises. Instead blackface went full retard and blabbered all over parliament because he was pushed to the wall by Polievre on domestic matters and was desperate to save his skin. That would explain why the US seemed to be caught offguard initially and took it's time to come up with a coherent response.
take this into account, surrey is the place where that chap was killed.

Surrey, BC Ranked one of the Most Dangerous City in Canada

https://plus1news.ca/blog/most-dangerous-city-surrey/

70% population non-european.
Screenshot 2023-09-22 at 12.34.43 PM.png



malik is the chap who got bumped off last year

This past February, Malik’s lawyer son Jaspreet filed a lawsuit against Nijjar and the Guru Nanak society to get back a special printing press handed over to the Surrey gurdwara in August 2020 by his father and an associate named Balwant Singh Bhandher.
 

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I have a question for everyone here. If the evidence is private, with five eyes. How will it be validated at all? Is it that hard to copy someone's voice in this age? Is it that hard to make a copy of email? Instant message?

How will we know if evidence is really an evidence or not US bluffing us?

What if all of this is a pressure tactic from USA to make India play by its rules and dance to its tunes?

They made Canada do it because Canada seems like least harmful. Another important thing Canadians are saying is that their CSIS etc are not really in government control and work independently. So Truedeau can not instruct them.

This is funny, if they are not under civilian control, then whose control are they in? If CSIS works closely with CIA then how hard it is for CIA to convince CSIS to pull off this stunt?

CSIS puts pressure on Trudeau to go public and CIA (the only real eye of 5 eye) supports them in background.

India's name is dragged through mud -- funny enough USA always does it. Pressure is on India to do negotiate with USA on US terms. The threat is that of NATO sanctions.

Think of it... So many people are killed in Canada's gang violence. Why is Trudeau making such a fuss about this worthless person? He is acting on directions from CSIS which is partnering with CIA.
 

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Fuck the west ...India should block with China and Russia ..Better give concessions to them than to fucking west ..Make this region impossible for West to trade ...
 

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Maybe. But the doubt comes from whether India would really take out a target in a G7 NATO 5i country? The downsides are big if we got caught. Either people decided that we don’t care if we get caught as there are other objectives that we will win on or Doval/RAW are foolish. Both options seem impossible as India has done several intelligence ops in foreign countries and knows the risks.
Could well be a case of sh!t hitting the ceiling as far as Delhi goes who decided enough is enough & a message had to be sent that we aren't going to take things lying down anymore. See this assassination as a trial balloon .

The aftermath could be envisaged as thus -

Canada cleans up its act .

Canada continues as if nothing happened

Canada raises a stink.

All 3 scenarios would've been wargamed before proceeding . Turdreau's going public may not have been factored in but that hardly changes the situation on the ground. Countries maintain diplomacy & carry out trade with even those their general public despise.

In the event Turdreau's going public will & is going to boomerang on him . It's shed light on that aspect of Canada which the establishment would rather have under wraps & highlights the Khalistani problem.

The Indian deep state has only to highlight the issue repeatedly in Canada from now onwards , draw linkages with the various crime syndicates operating there & the Khalistani movement thereby shedding light on the nexus between religion & crime & get political commentators to wonder how did a micro minority get to play such an outsized role in the politics & crime landscape of the country so as to dictate the policy especially the foreign policy of the establishment ?

Let the typically racist mindset of the white caucasian male do the rest. What we also need to do is mobilize the rest of the Indian or non Sikh indian community there into a homogeneous voting bloc. However that's easier said than done & is a long term project.
 

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Why would Israel???
Christian Kukis consider themselves to be one of the lost tribes of Israel. A lot of Kukis are considered as Bnei Menashe or Seed of Judaism by the Chief Rabbi of Israel.







6 Soldiers From India’s ‘Lost Tribe’ Join Israeli Army Together

https://www.google.com/amp/s/forwar...-lost-tribe-join-israeli-army-together/?amp=1

Israel’s absorption of Bnei Menashe Jews from India
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.or...ption-of-bene-menasseh-jews-from-india-60895/
 

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Fuck the west ...India should block with China and Russia ..Better give concessions to them than to fucking west ..Make this region impossible for West to trade ...
Russia and China do not have future. Indian are very close to US, UK, Aus, Canada etc culturally and historically. We build a third block the king maker. Thats Global South
 

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Russia and China do not have future. Indian are very close to US, UK, Aus, Canada etc culturally and historically. We build a third block the king maker. Thats Global South
Fuck global south . West is the snake and what culture are you talking about , LGBTQ culture ..
We are part of eastern block ..China and Russia are our neighbors, sure we have some problems but they can be resolved ..
What I meant to say is better to ally with east than to west in case we have a choice. .
 

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