Trudeau accuses Indian government of involvement in killing of Canadian terrorist

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Let's get serious. If diplomats were discussing the killing, there is likely nothing more there. Do they think that if R&AW was carrying out an operation, there will be people discussing it?
What Canadians will show:

Indian Diolomat#1: These rats are going too far. We have to take care of them.
Indian Diplomat#2: we must eliminate these low life cretins.

Canadians in parliament: as you know, Khalistanis are rats and low life cretins so the Indians were talking about eliminating them!
 

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We cannot dismiss this incident. The US and Canucks are very close allies. This whole thing will come down to how the US reacts. If the US is the one that provided sigint and if that sigint is damaging, there will be fallout and consequences. India better up the technical game here. Have concrete intelligence that Canadians actively promoted terrorism in India. You need something substantial to negotiate with. Plus now that things are in the open, India must cut off relations with Canada until the terrorists are extradited to India to face justice. India must get serious on the Khalistan issue.
 

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U.S. : Let's see what the Indians are talking about now.
Canada : Okie...

Tut tut....

India : *insert porn noises
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Suddenly...

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It's not hip-hop, it's pop, 'cause I found a hella way to fuse it
 

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That may be true but if there is anyone thinking that RAW chaps are chattering about an operation they are involved with, then we have only comedians in our country.
SIGINT does not mean just phone calls. Emails, Texts and other types as well. These communications are encrypted but US NSA has top hackers that may have decrypted the communication and then Canadians mounted a surveillance on the Indian consular activities. It is entirely possible. The entire Cold War was about encoding secret messages so they cannot be intercepted.
If our secrets were detected, regardless of whether it was related to the Canadian claim or not, we must increase our technological capabilities here as the claim is that they were easily able to hack into secret conversations.
 

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Soyboy's call for "joint action" is a clear proof that najjar & other K's are agents on the payroll of the west through which they do/influence stuff in relation to India's Punjab/allied issues.
This is how it goes.



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A. When things are really serious, Minster will brief. Because situation will be fluid. And we might have to go on defensive.
B. Till then, MEA guy will continue to brief and we all can assume that things are gamed out and we are in control.

We are playing on the the front foot and we are on the offensive. Then why is everyone thinking these low quality balls are bouncers and we should go on defensive?
 

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We cannot dismiss this incident. The US and Canucks are very close allies. This whole thing will come down to how the US reacts. If the US is the one that provided sigint and if that sigint is damaging, there will be fallout and consequences. India better up the technical game here. Have concrete intelligence that Canadians actively promoted terrorism in India. You need something substantial to negotiate with. Plus now that things are in the open, India must cut off relations with Canada until the terrorists are extradited to India to face justice. India must get serious on the Khalistan issue.
it's not a question of "if" U.S provides intel to canada. they are treaty partners, intel will be shared.
it's not like diplomats don't know this.

anyways, if today's bhawal is based on that CBC news reports, then they are clutching at straws to cover for their PM. CBC is their doordarshan, ofcourse they will cover for their PM.

it doesn't look like canada's deputy PM has any clue either.
 

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The matter will be kept in back burner, they know nothing is going to come out of this.
Also boat loads of name calling by Canada and US officials and media.. and lectures on Rule of law.. and if things really go bad then sanctions on some RAW officials.. I don't see anything more than that happening..
 

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Lots of analysis up here based on flawed assumptions. Here's what's happening:

1) The SIGINT is from one of the 5-eyes members, so it's the US. The mastermind behind this is the US, and they are manipulating the idiot in charge in Canada in a proxy fight vs India. The CIA has provided the intelligence by snooping on the Indian mission. Likely they have some intercept that implicates a R&AW official in some vague way - but this is enough for them.

2) To think that US (or any other Anglo country) will dump one of their 5eyes for even another European country is unthinkable - forget about India. They've been trying regime change in India and protecting terror of every sort for decades since 1947. They're the main funders and groomers of the Khalistan movement - NOT Pakistan.

3) It doesn't matter whether it's the Dems or the Reps - hostility to India is bipartisan and comes from the deep state's colonial mindset. They want a few Indians to work for them and make them progress in tech, but no way will they allow India to become a geopolitical and civilisational challenge like China has become.

Indians should stop thinking they've arrived just because of some applause when Modi speaks in the US Congress and lots of chai samosa and hugs and kisses. They did that with the Saudis - and then Biden wanted to make MBS a pariah. They did that with Saddam - and then proceeded to hang him.

If you are not a white Anglo they will ALWAYS be hostile to you. Indians need to get this into their heads. All else follows from there.

Modi knows this and he's just trying to get as much out of the relationship with the West as he can before it sours permanently, while keeping BRICS alive and expanding it.

4) They've done this cleverly - intercepted communication, refused to share details with India, gotten a lightweight like Trudeau to go public with it, been very reserved from the US side (giving Indians a false sense of security). It's a trap laid for Modi - disclose that you have evidence without sharing it, get India to deny the evidence, and then proceed to leak it. The aim is to make an MBS out of Modi. Let's see how Modi-Jaishankar-Doval respond.
I doubt they will do this much of drama for just to strike Modi. And this event is positive for Modi. Their motive is bigger.
 

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SIGINT does not mean just phone calls. Emails, Texts and other types as well. These communications are encrypted but US NSA has top hackers that may have decrypted the communication and then Canadians mounted a surveillance on the Indian consular activities. It is entirely possible. The entire Cold War was about encoding secret messages so they cannot be intercepted.
If our secrets were detected, regardless of whether it was related to the Canadian claim or not, we must increase our technological capabilities here as the claim is that they were easily able to hack into secret conversations.
If US is ready to throw its weight behind this then what the point of having any intelligence or not. If US is lying who is there to verify that in Five Eyes?
 

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For those shivering in their undies,

Go and watch MEA interaction yesterday.
the 5 testicles, I mean eyes may have their plans but so does India.

and from the actions of India since this happened, it is very clear they know what they are doing and how to react to it.
AIM mentioned that India has a lot of first hand proof of Canadian mission actively involved in Khalistani terrorism inside India, which they will release at appropriate time.

This is pretty much nuclear option, diplomatically.
Basically, India is telling the 5 testicles, 'go ahead if you dare'.

Domestically, this is a heaven sent for Modi and BJP.
That is what led to USA running to their munna's rescue - we also hab prooooooffffff which can be veriiii damagingggg.

They had to put up a brave face when we made our next three moves public. Noway US would've allowed canada to use their name as the source of intel if they weren't rattled by MEA's press briefing yesterday.

Why is saurav jhatu in mourning already? The schizo wimp shouldn't skip his medication.
 

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Pannu getting slapped for his vid, i guess things are moving behind the scenes.


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Words are cheap. What actions have been taken? Absolutely nothing. There has been no action against the guy who made the video pannun. In fact he has been given additional security cover.

In contrast, there was a protest against the whole gender craziness entering schools and some of the protestors stamped and burned that rainbow flag...and guess what they were arrested and jailed instantly. No such action , and its been a few days.
 

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Also boat loads of name calling by Canada and US officials and media.. and lectures on Rule of law.. and if things really go bad then sanctions on some RAW officials.. I don't see anything more than that happening..
I don't think there will be sanctions on India or name calling, they cannot name India and then say Indo Pacific startegy.
 

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