Trudeau accuses Indian government of involvement in killing of Canadian terrorist

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Inevitable. Whether it happens before they attempt to annex Taiwan or not, hard to say. I'm betting they'd use the war against India to test their preparedness & to boost morale before embarking on annexation of Taiwan.
🤨🤨...why will chinese goes for stronger enemy (india) before attacking taiwan? taiwan isnt easy to grab, due to island nation nd USA+nato support. chinese will definitely use 100% of their power to grab taiwan. even that time they dont want distraction from india side. if they first attacked india, india will create nuisance in LAC. that will make two front war for chinese. after grabbing taiwan, china can attempt to grab ladhakh nd arunanchal. for india they need moral boost, not with taiwan. USA etc r not going to directly involved in taiwan war. with short war with india, chinese will only waste their time nd resources. they will not achieve anything if they goes short war with india.
 

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More careful reading of the situation is necessary. Jumping to conclusions is not sensible.

# According to some reports, the Canadian government through their NSA and intelligence chief had personally spoken with their counterparts in India

# According to those reports, Indian officials had not denied the evidence.

# Evidently evidence was shared with India (as per story)

# US, Australia and the UK had also spoken to their Indian counterparts

In which case, what was the point of Trudeau's commentary, if the idea was to tell India that they were aware of what was done - that message was already delivered. Clearly, nobody believes India will do anything if, as they say, India was involved.

More importantly, India having received this evidence and supposed pressure from other Canadian allies on the matter, reacted with hostility to the comments and upped the diplomatic ante. Not a knee jerk response but one which they had time to plan out in the face of supposed pressure.

The story either makes no sense or India has more testicular fortitude than they bargained for.
 
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Just like how Russians didn't blew up Nordstream pipeline and how Syria didn't use chemical weapons but they got blammed regardless by Americans.

They have a strong media disinformation network worldwide. Once this network says something for billions of people around the world it becomes word of truth.

I said this before on this thread that west will make some spicy evidence against India. They are masters in evidence creation.
First thing first, US and its allies called for condemnation of Russia. How many countries responded??

USA has the pull before and just after Soviet break up. But things have changed and people are aware of the intentions of the 5is. They only care for their hegemony.

I do not believe in Canada's investigation, if Canada leaks some thing (fake or just concocted evidence) India also has evidence of Canada supporting terrorists against India, India will reciprocate the same.

Regarding evidence and values non sense, Indians know how this works. Because the same forces have done horrible things to freedom fighters and those who went against British prior to 1947 using the same arguments like values, evidence etc....etc...
The current India faced all these things in the past, now we have strength and freedom to face the modern day challenges.
If they try to tarnish India's reputation, India will simply side step and let the west do what ever it wants in India pacific. India is at a sweet spot not because of western investments but because of India's middle class and consumers.

Annnnddddd, the real point I want to stress is the nijjer guy is a AK 47 wielding terrorist guy who happens to a canadian citizen. He is not a Gandhi or Nelson Mandela.
Nijjer is leading a K movement which also involves in illegal activities and giving threats to canadian citizens.

I think India will not stop its next steps to crush K movement and will take all necessary steps to ensure its embassies and diplomatic staff are safe.

The joke is Indian diplomats plotted to kill a terrorist and they did all the planning while talking on mobiles or radios. India opposed USA in the past and will confront USA if false and politically motivated allegations are made against its national interests.
 
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More careful reading of the situation is necessary. Jumping to conclusions is not sensible.

# According to some reports, the Canadian government through their NSA and intelligence chief had personally spoken with their counterparts in India

# According to those reports, Indian officials had not denied the evidence.

# Evidently evidence was shared with India (as per story)

# US, Australia and the UK had also spoken to their Indian counterparts

In which case, what was the point of Trudeau's commentary, if the idea was to tell India that they were aware of what was done - that message was already delivered. Clearly, nobody believes India will do anything if, as they say, India was involved.

More importantly, India have received this evidence and supposed pressure from other Canadian allies on the matter, reacted with hostility to the comments and upped the diplomatic ante. Not a knee jerk response but one which they had time to plan out in the face of supposed pressure.

The story either makes no sense or India has more testicular fortitude than they bargained for.
There is no agreement to what canada says. India will not serve Anglosphere hegemony, it is give and take relationship.
 

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I really want indo Canadian ties to not improve.Having Canada on the hostile side is much better than them being a frosty ally.The visa ban itseems have hit the right place as in one Canadian media a indian woman who gave up her citizenship was blaming modi for her troubles 😆 I hope this sends a message to our retards in home who plan to go to Canada and study and make money by shuffling snow and endlessly explain how it's a good job as Canadian dollar >rupees
 

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First thing first, US and its allies called for condemnation of Russia. How many countries responded??

USA has the pull before and just after Soviet break up. But things have changed and people are aware of the intentions of the 5is. They only care for their hegemony.

I do not believe in Canada's investigation, if Canada leaks some thing (fake or just concocted evidence) India also has evidence of Canada supporting terrorists against India, India will reciprocate the same.

Regarding evidence and values non sense, Indians know how this works. Because the same forces have done horrible things to freedom fighters and those who went against British prior to 1947 using the same arguments like values, evidence etc....etc...
The current India faced all these things in the past, now we have strength and freedom to face the modern day challenges.
If they try to tarnish India's reputation, India will simply side step and let the west do what ever it wants in India pacific. India is at a sweet spot not because of western investments but because of India's middle class and consumers.

Annnnddddd, the real point I want to stress is the nijjer guy is a AK 47 wielding terrorist guy who happens to a canadian citizen. He is not a Gandhi or Nelson Mandela.
Nijjer is leading a K movement which is also involves in illegal activities and gives threats to canadian citizens.

I think India will not stop its next steps to crush K movement and will take all necessary steps to ensure its embassies and diplomatic staff are safe.

The joke is India diplomats plotted to kill a terrorist and they did all the planning while talking on mobiles or radios. India opposed USA in the past and will confront USA if false and politically motivated allegations are made against its national interests.
Unlike Russia, we have no significant media presence outside India. Only in India we are calling Nijjar AK weilding terrorist.

in western media they are calling him a Sikh leader and already showing crying son of Nijjar asking for justice. People around the world are watching this western version not Indian version.

this K movement doesn't exist. Few hundred or even a few thousand people out of millions isn't a movement. This is just a CIA funded artificial movment to use against India.
 

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Unlike Russia, we have no significant media presence outside India. Only in India we are calling Nijjar AK weilding terrorist.

in western media they are calling him a Sikh leader and already showing crying son of Nijjar asking for justice. People around the world are watching this western version not Indian version.

this K movement doesn't exist. Few hundred or even a few thousand people out of millions isn't a movement. This is just a CIA funded artificial movment to use against India.
what difference does it make to India's reputation?

This saga does not result in any thing, as I said earlier nothing is going to happen, our diplomats and families are not there to receive threats.

India will Rise !
 

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Dhoti shivering..
Looks like his close relatives/kids have started to settle in West now
look beyond the words.... HIs remarks are not way off...

He means that folks were using mobiles / phone made in china or US and hence got compromised. If they were using indian phones and OS, no way.. others could have tracked and listened to their conversation..

rest,there are no holy cows in defence forces...i stopped looking at defence forces as holy coes long time back..
 

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Unlike Russia, we have no significant media presence outside India. Only in India we are calling Nijjar AK weilding terrorist.

in western media they are calling him a Sikh leader and already showing crying son of Nijjar asking for justice. People around the world are watching this western version not Indian version.

this K movement doesn't exist. Few hundred or even a few thousand people out of millions isn't a movement. This is just a CIA funded artificial movment to use against India.
True about how the western eco-system only shows what it want's to show and Indian narrative gets lost.

Problem for west though, everything they are doing and saying is only going to make Modi a hero in India.

In India, the liberal media has very little reach.
It's the vernacular media and MSM that dominates the show. And both these places the liberal narrative gets lost.
 

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look beyond the words.... HIs remarks are not way off...

He means that folks were using mobiles / phone made in china or US and hence got compromised. If they were using indian phones and OS, no way.. others could have tracked and listened to their conversation..

rest,there are no holy cows in defence forces...i stopped looking at defence forces as holy coes long time back..
He's actually right. Don't know why some posters are attacking him.

Without our own Indigenous hardware, we'll always be vulnerable to Uncle Sam's blackmail.
 

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Unlike Russia, we have no significant media presence outside India. Only in India we are calling Nijjar AK weilding terrorist.

in western media they are calling him a Sikh leader and already showing crying son of Nijjar asking for justice. People around the world are watching this western version not Indian version.

this K movement doesn't exist. Few hundred or even a few thousand people out of millions isn't a movement. This is just a CIA funded artificial movment to use against India.
There is a reason why they are deliberately using that term. They tried to pin us down by terming our action against Islamic terrorism as "violating human rights". But soon, they saw that Islamic terror was a real beast and a threat to the entire world. So, they needed a new boogeyman. Right now, they are trying to fix Sikh as the new replacement, knowing jolly well that Khalistanis are a fringe fraction who just happen to be very vocal.

He's actually right. Don't know why some posters are attacking him.

Without our own Indigenous hardware, we'll always be vulnerable to Uncle Sam's blackmail.
Well, we are a long way from making our own 4nm chips and semiconductors. We do have the ability to fabricate older-generation semiconductors, but anything <5nm is far away. China has just managed to reach 7 nm recently and that too after shovelling in billions in research and terabytes of data stolen from the West. There is no way we can be a major chip maker with just investments from Unkil's vassals.

Taiwan's Foxconn will only take orders from Washington, and Japan and South Korea are pretty much the US itself.

That's a temporary fix. We will need to keep increasing the R&D budget and also learn to make our own lithographic machines. China has had a lot of trouble sourcing them from the Netherlands, which happens to have a global monopoly on those machines.
 

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Next step from MEA -

Quote what Pannu has said about Hindus in Canada and turn it into a narrative against both Canada and US.
Show that people like Pannu have backing of Canadian as well as US govt and are openly calling for murder of Indians and hindus in US and Canada.

Attack on embassy in California needs to be given as an example of collusion between Khalistanis and the govts in US and Canada.

Just make it bigger, pull US into this mess and let the US diplomats in India answer to the new narrative.
Why is Pannu not arrested for calling for genocide of Hindus?
Why no arrests by US regarding attacks on our Embassy there?

That is the next step.
 

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look beyond the words.... HIs remarks are not way off...

He means that folks were using mobiles / phone made in china or US and hence got compromised. If they were using indian phones and OS, no way.. others could have tracked and listened to their conversation..

rest,there are no holy cows in defence forces...i stopped looking at defence forces as holy coes long time back..
Chinese Huawei has embedded sat comm on glossy mobile phone. I believe we have own indigenous but rugged looking pocket size satcoms for people working in this field.
 

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Here's a communication excerpt that the Americunts gave to Canadiots

Diplomat A - Mission complete?
Colonel RAAjesh - yes sir. Thikane laga diya. Our top Agent OPM did the job.
Diplomat A - Alright Agent R and Agent OPM, boriya bistar bandho aaur nikal lo. Baaki hum dekhte hai.
Diplomat B - Yeh kaneda walo ka kya karein? Abhi clown and his circus Bandar ki Tarah nachenge.
Diplomat A - Sabko pata hai kaneda ka rakhwala bhosdiwala is US. Abhi saalo ko jee bhar kar sunne do. Main TopChad ko inform karda hoon woh Motabhai ko inform kardenge. Aaur nachne do turdhoe ho. Kuch ukhad nehi payega.
Diplomat B - So it's hua to hua and Mara to Mara?
Diplomat A - Haan. Ab unko prove karne do kisko mara aaur kisko thoka aaur kya hua.
 

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He's actually right. Don't know why some posters are attacking him.

Without our own Indigenous hardware, we'll always be vulnerable to Uncle Sam's blackmail.
I imagine this is something to be flagged long time ago. Hardware are our bane.
 

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He is a Congi stooge. One look at his history of tweets would show you what his loyalties are like. Much like Sawhney, Shukla and Panag.
What you know about the guy that you are putting him in line of sawhney & co ?

just curious as he got rehabilitated by current govt not khangress
 

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