Trudeau accuses Indian government of involvement in killing of Canadian terrorist

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For those shivering in their undies,

Go and watch MEA interaction yesterday.
the 5 testicles, I mean eyes may have their plans but so does India.

and from the actions of India since this happened, it is very clear they know what they are doing and how to react to it.
AIM mentioned that India has a lot of first hand proof of Canadian mission actively involved in Khalistani terrorism inside India, which they will release at appropriate time.

This is pretty much nuclear option, diplomatically.
Basically, India is telling the 5 testicles, 'go ahead if you dare'.

Domestically, this is a heaven sent for Modi and BJP.
 

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This isn't about Modi. This is about rise of India.

India is currently looking at a very fast pace growth period. To hinder this or to delay this west aka Americans may use dirty tricks to target certain parts of economy especially technology.

Remember how ISRO fell behind Chinese space agency because of America sanctions on Indian space program. Or how Tejas got delayed because of American sanctions.

These Anglo-Saxons think they and only they are boss of the world and They are trying everything they can to maintain their status. Their fight against Russia is all about Anglo-Saxon hegemony in Europe, their fight against China is also all about Anglo-Saxon hegemony in Asia. Ukraine and Taiwan are just excuses.

Now they have one excuse against India. They will slowly use this excuse to buildup towards targetted sanctions so their usual trade can continue and it also hurts Indian economy especially technology sectors.


Below is video from American pro liberal journalist who has a huge sway in democratic party. Listen to the languages. We can clearly see their intent.


where will the western companies go from China if not India??

They will loose their momentum. The economies in the west are almost in recession.
 

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"There's not some special exemption you get for actions like this. Regardless of the country, we will stand up and defend our basic principles and we will also consult closely with allies like Canada as they pursue their law enforcement and diplomatic process."


After this American statement everything is as clear as a day for those who know an iota of geopolitics.

America stands with Canada as expacted. India is going to be on the recieving end of 5 Eyes countries. We should start our preparations to decouple from west.

its sad that some journos are misleading public about how Canada isn't getting any support from other Anglo countries. Its dishonest people like them who are telling all sorts of stories of India western special relationship and keeping people in dark. There is nothing special about Indian relationship with west.

Signing of foundational agreements with America was a mistake, Nuclear treaty was a mistake, choosing American jet engines for our planes was a mistake, signing Artemis Accords was a mistake. now our mistakes will compound and bite us back.

Its unfortunate how we didn't pick up any signs from western liberal mainstream media who is loudly anti India for years now. Libral ideology dominates western minds and but we ignored that too.

The split in India USA relationship will begin from now. We are back to 70s.
Breathe in .. Breathe out.. One day at a time..
Even Turkey faces US sanctions.. doesn't mean all military tech sale to Turkey is stopped.. Indian relationship with US is transactional.. not civilizational like the Five eyes Anglos.. There will always be some transaction to be made.. India anyways avoids over dependence on America..
There will be some US tech dependence, given Indian tech deficiencies..but as Iran and now Russia has shown it can be managed [circumvent sanctions] at tolerable cost..
 
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This isn't about Modi. This is about rise of India.

India is currently looking at a very fast pace growth period. To hinder this or to delay this west aka Americans may use dirty tricks to target certain parts of economy especially technology.

Remember how ISRO fell behind Chinese space agency because of America sanctions on Indian space program. Or how Tejas got delayed because of American sanctions.

These Anglo-Saxons think they and only they are boss of the world and They are trying everything they can to maintain their status. Their fight against Russia is all about Anglo-Saxon hegemony in Europe, their fight against China is also all about Anglo-Saxon hegemony in Asia. Ukraine and Taiwan are just excuses.

Now they have one excuse against India. They will slowly use this excuse to buildup towards targetted sanctions so their usual trade can continue and it also hurts Indian economy especially technology sectors.


Below is video from American pro liberal journalist who has a huge sway in democratic party. Listen to the languages. We can clearly see their intent.

That narrative, I can buy and it makes sense.

It also fits in with the liberal objective of how it views India and hindus.

still, this won't be enough.
What are the options for west even if Modi comes out in a presser and says, 'yeah, we offed that moFo and will off any terrorist who harms us'..

What are the options in front of the west?
 

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Decoupling from the west isn't gonna happen. Even China can't do it and India is in no position to do so. We need the technology investments. Canada is one useless roadside dog that doesn't deserve any attention, but we have to manage this relationship with the US and have a good relationship with them atleast for the next 10-20 years.
By decoupling I mean decoupling with west in defence, space and other sensitive domains of national security. In recent years we have leaned too much on west especially in defence and other sensitive sectors.

The usualy trade should continue and will continue. Its political alignment that should be decoupled.
 

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Khalistanis are a thorn in the side of the Sikh community as a whole. I’ve seen how a tiny (literally maybe 1%) of the community exerts their radical views on the rest and dominates the culture. You’ll find a handful of these fks walking around in their Khalistani hoodies at every gurdwara

more disturbing is the fact that these Khalistanis are actually just highly organised crime families that are destroying Punjab from within
Many of these so called "sikhs" who are so proclaimed about "khalistan" don't even wear their turbans, eat beef, clean shave, etc.

They are a shame on the sikh community. Likes of even Bhindranwale would be ashamed of these jokers.

So called "Khalistan banega" but won't wear their turban. Absolute to disgrace to the community.
 

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the next step GOI must do at the earliest of use 'enemy property' act on around a 100 Khalis operating out of Canada.

Go after their properties, ban accounts and businesses in India.
Go after anyone in India who helped them, apply NSA and pound them.
 

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Are nothing gonna happen.
No killing of Indian leaders during election.
No threat to rise of India.
No sanctions against India.
More they will push India more we will start playing in BRICS, remember BRICS currency is only waiting for India to confirm at this point both China and Russia are desperate for it.
India did not care for sanctions during S-400 case, In Russian Oil case you really think we will care about them now in a murder mystery.
 

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India must clarify asap which 5i country provided so called additional intelligence. And tell that country all tech purchases from there are at risk now.
Also, tell the 5i countries the entire indo-pacific strategy is at risk.
Finally, force the Canadian government to hand over all NIA wanted khalistanis. Say relations cannot be normalized otherwise.
I wish we had already been at $5-6 trillion now. Our leverage would have been far greater.
 

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Breathe in .. Breathe

Breathe in .. Breathe out.. One day at a time..
Even Turkey faces US sanctions.. doesn't mean all military tech sale to Turkey is stopped.. Indian relationship with US is transactional.. not civilizational like the Five eyes Anglos.. There will always be some transaction to be made.. India anyways avoids over dependence on America..
There will be some US tech dependence, given Indian tech deficiencies..bit as Iran and now Russia has shown it can be managed [circumvent sanctions] at tolerable cost..
I understand your point that there is always a way. I agree if we do get sanctioned we will be more self reliant and come out stronger.

Currently we are bit relaxed because of western support. If that rug is pulled under our feet maybe we will be more willing to step up.

The good thing about our foreign policy is we have kept door open for BRICS and SCO type organisations to sort of balance things out if one side becomes too hostile.

I am not worried about our long term future. It's just that maybe I didn't expect west to turn hostile too soon as it is happening. I think most sensible analyst predicted split only after 2030s but here we are now.

That narrative, I can buy and it makes sense.

It also fits in with the liberal objective of how it views India and hindus.

still, this won't be enough.
What are the options for west even if Modi comes out in a presser and says, 'yeah, we offed that moFo and will off any terrorist who harms us'..

What are the options in front of the west?
Military sanctions like 90s. Any and all dual use tech can be sanctioned including AI and high end Silicon chips.

There are many subcomponents that we use from west that can be stopped which will hurt our defences, space and tech abilities.
 

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There'll be no sanctions. This is just a fresh round of pressure tactics in a series of pressure tactics. They've moved on to murder mystery after last year's bluster over India buying Russian oil became old. My guess is, they'll jave moved on to another issue before next year's election.

In any case, the US wouldn't have forgotten whT happened the last time it had sanctioned India. Bharat only started growing faster in the immediate aftermath, and developed its cryogenic rocket engine without foreign assistance(something even the most optimistic Indian wouldn't have bet on back then).
 
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Military sanctions like 90s. Any and all dual use tech can be sanctioned including AI and high end Silicon chips.

There are many subcomponents that we use from west that can be stopped which will hurt our defences, space and tech abilities.
How do you think that would play out?
They will sanction us & India will not react?

What if India brands Canada a terrorist nation and proceeds with it's own sanctions?
For example, no more students will be sent to Canada.

We don't need to touch US at any point,

All we need to do sanction the hell out Canada by branding it a terrorist country.

And these sanction would hurt India for may be a year or so.
We will fill the gap with alternatives.
But US needs to come to terms that INdia will permanently shut itself to whatever US is selling.
It took nearly 20 years for US and India to come this far. Even a small sanction on any sub-component will destroy all the hard work done by both sides.
 

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Breathe in .. Breathe

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Even Turkey faces US sanctions.. doesn't mean all military tech sale to Turkey is stopped.. Indian relationship with US is transactional.. not civilizational like the Five eyes Anglos.. There will always be some transaction to be made.. India anyways avoids over dependence on America..
There will be some US tech dependence, given Indian tech deficiencies..but as Iran and now Russia has shown it can be managed [circumvent sanctions] at tolerable cost..

People dhoti shivering too much.
 

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How do you think that would play out?
They will sanction us & India will not react?

What if India brands Canada a terrorist nation and proceeds with it's own sanctions?
For example, no more students will be sent to Canada.

We don't need to touch US at any point,

All we need to do sanction the hell out Canada by branding it a terrorist country.

And these sanction would hurt India for may be a year or so.
We will fill the gap with alternatives.
But US needs to come to terms that INdia will permanently shut itself to whatever US is selling.
It took nearly 20 years for US and India to come this far. Even a small sanction on any sub-component will destroy all the hard work done by both sides.


We already done that. No Canadian visa for now. I think college season wil be nightmare for universities.

As per Canadian PR. The so called mug high expectancy does not make sense anymore. Honestly in India today tech company even a 2 years experienced guys can go to 15-20lpa salaries. Within 5 years they are literally earning a crore lpa. Compared to that working as part time in some Tim Hortons to live and then living cheque to cheque till to get a house. Also the so called Healthcare is nothing but a sham.


It just mindset folks that goras are clean while I live in dirty India.
 

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By not taking any offense or seriousness of our MEA presser, Canada is trying to show they are superior and don't care what India (as an insignificant 3rd world country) says about it.

Honestly 56th dimension chess being played by diplomats from both sides.
Have you seen the video of the Canadian envoy coming out of the MEA building. Looked angry & arrogant.

He slammed the car door near to the reporter.

I am guessing that he showed his "weight" at MEA durbar but instantly was shown his place in return.

Told you guys they have zero evidence.

Well, evidence can always be made and sold -

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This is just Americans firing from the soycuck's shoulders. As pointed out by others, they need something, maybe desperately? Like shells? Maybe? Is this a "tactical scenario" rather than a "strategic one"?

India has signed the Artemiss accords, have other agreements with US. Is the US under the impression that at the moment India has no other choice & can be squeezed for further concessions?
 

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