This is the 31st Type 054A VLS Frigate! Think about that!

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There are many Taiwanese, including most of its industrial and wealthy class, who are pro-China. Indians must think Taiwan and China is like Pakistan and India. But that is the furthest thing from the truth. Taiwanese are one of the engines for China growth and transformation. Even during the American tech war against China, Taiwanese firms are helping to keep China tech ecosystem running.
Why do you thin China opened up Mainland to Taiwan in 2000s,,,, China though eventually with bring and giving them opportunity Taiwanese would simply become pro Chinese and would be integrated with China......

That Strategy failed so Badly isn't it.....

So now you want to use a stick since you're a new money in town.

Do you've any idea how much investments US has in Taiwan... and giving Taiwan to China opens up western pacific to China against US... Ya.. US would sit ideal since you've many ships :crazy:

Its not just Afganistan... they're pulling troops from bases where number not needed..
Do you see the crash rate of US jets going UP recently right!! Why ??? because their Sorties in training increased, and there's a big deception is being played by US....looks like China and Chinese are falling for it....
this deception will last for decades mind you
 

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Do you see the crash rate of US jets going UP recently right!! Why ??? because their Sorties in training increased, and there's a big deception is being played by US....looks like China and Chinese are falling for it....
this deception will last for decades mind you
Their ships are crashing a lot in the Pacific too!


No deception, China knows. This is why China is building more and more ships. Many frigates, destroyers (25 052Ds!) and cruisers (8 055s!)

And maybe up to 10 carriers!

China needs them to make the US think twice about attacking.
 

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Their ships are crashing a lot in the Pacific too!



No deception, China knows. This is why China is building more and more ships. Many frigates, destroyers (25 052Ds!) and cruisers (8 055s!)

And maybe up to 10 carriers!

China needs them to make the US think twice about attacking.

While your Jets falls into your homes :laugh::laugh::laugh:

No Deception !! Ok, :hehe:

Lol.... you think you're going to see just US .. ok fine....... And what happens once you build 10 carriers !! invasion of Taiwan!!! Are you sure you want to wait build 10 CBG and go take a tiny island??? Are you that much scared of the Americans ???? 🤔
 

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While your Jets falls into your homes :laugh::laugh::laugh:

No Deception !! Ok, :hehe:

Lol.... you think you're going to see just US .. ok fine....... And what happens once you build 10 carriers !! invasion of Taiwan!!! Are you sure you want to wait build 10 CBG and go take a tiny island??? Are you that much scared of the Americans ???? 🤔
You ask any rational Chinese and he will say he is wary if not outright scared of the US. Have you seen what they've done to countries -- Iraq, Afghanistan, South Vietnam, Libya, Cambodia, etc.?

Regime change and then leave target nation in chaos. No Chinese, even those who hate CCP, wants China to end up like Afganistan.

Those 10 carriers and maybe up to 60 destroyers and cruisers in the next two decades are to prevent regime change and official dismemberment of Taiwan from China.
 

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Those 10 carriers and maybe up to 60 destroyers and cruisers in the next two decades are to prevent regime change and official dismemberment of Taiwan from China.
Surprisingly, I agree with your U.S regime change view. But seriously? 10 carriers and 60 destroyers for Taiwan? And do u think folks back there in Taiwan will welcome u with sweets?
The real reason why CCP China is churning ships like a pig does with piglets is because you know how fragile your system is, and only strictly enforced national pride is running your so called nation which is otherwise just a bunch of occupied territories stiched as a psuedo confederation. You know USSR kinda fate awaits you in future if the west continues it's dominance.
The real fear is not about regime change in Taiwan, but in Beijing. Winds of democracy within will make your establishment go crazy, with HK u guys have ur plate full already.
Anyways,very impressive of ur warship rollout feat. Not an easy task. But u should use them often, what is the use of a 10 carrier-60 destroyer fleet when you can't pass Malacca boldly considering ur suppapowa ambitions? lol
 

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If the Iroquois or Sioux had the equivalent of 60 destroyers and 10 carriers then they wouldn't have lost their nations to the US military.

If Iraq or Afghanistan had 10 carriers they would not have been regime-changed.

Again, read the earlier posts. Literally a million Taiwanese (actually more) live and work in China. Taiwan is a great conduit of global technology and finances into China as it is now. Only if they declared official independence would there need to be war. China is happy with the status quo.

So those warships are less for Taiwan than to keep Western nations from willy nilly picking a war with China like they did with Iraq.
 

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If the Iroquois or Sioux had the equivalent of 60 destroyers and 10 carriers then they wouldn't have lost their nations to the US military.

If Iraq or Afghanistan had 10 carriers they would not have been regime-changed.

Again, read the earlier posts. Literally a million Taiwanese (actually more) live and work in China. Taiwan is a great conduit of global technology and finances into China as it is now. Only if they declared official independence would there need to be war. China is happy with the status quo.

So those warships are less for Taiwan than to keep Western nations from willy nilly picking a war with China like they did with Iraq.
Thousands of nukes, naval might any nation envies couldn't save USSR from collapse. As far as the motive presented for 60 destroyers and 10 carriers, it is outright foolish if one assumes the West will annex CCP China and make it their b*tc# for a decade or so like Afg or Iraq. The Western designs afa CCP China is concerned will be around using rifts within the state (read establishment), the people (democracy) and tech of the future. As much as I hate western intervention in affairs of civilisational states like China and India, it is apparent that despite the idea of sympathizing with neighbors, the unacceptably stupid extra territorial claims of CCP China and routine transgressions into what is globally perceived to be Indian territory, fucks into any such contact between peoples to stand up against common adversaries.

One shouldn't say u need a blue water navy for coastal defence or harassing fisherman in Champa Sea (SCS). That sounds plain stupid.

China and India complement each other is what the world assumed not knowing CCP has other designs. And they are gonna get u again, u just need another Gorbachev. Or is that Xi himself?
 

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You ask any rational Chinese and he will say he is wary if not outright scared of the US. Have you seen what they've done to countries -- Iraq, Afghanistan, South Vietnam, Libya, Cambodia, etc.?

Regime change and then leave target nation in chaos. No Chinese, even those who hate CCP, wants China to end up like Afganistan.

Those 10 carriers and maybe up to 60 destroyers and cruisers in the next two decades are to prevent regime change and official dismemberment of Taiwan from China.
So you're an Angel ???

What are you doing ??? Debt trapping every poor country out there....

Why here has to be a regime change in Taiwan ???? Its like you don't live in a current world, i think its better for you if you come out of great firewall sometimes and see the reality. Taiwan doesn't want to be with China.... their leaders are always against you and need support formt eh west.

LoL.... Its the US that kept the taiwanese from declaring, it was an arrangement between the US and China not to let Taiwan declare independence in order to stop any conflicts. but to maintain the status quo China also shouldn't interfere....

But what Has been doing recently !!!??? Threat, Arrogance and bigotry, Why because of New Money...

Lady i think you need to stop limiting the amount of information you're getting from CCP and time to time read other Sources too..... Unlike China, West has so many outlets that criticizes US Gov policies
 

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Thousands of nukes, naval might any nation envies couldn't save USSR from collapse. As far as the motive presented for 60 destroyers and 10 carriers, it is outright foolish if one assumes the West will annex CCP China and make it their b*tc# for a decade or so like Afg or Iraq. The Western designs afa CCP China is concerned will be around using rifts within the state (read establishment), the people (democracy) and tech of the future. As much as I hate western intervention in affairs of civilisational states like China and India, it is apparent that despite the idea of sympathizing with neighbors, the unacceptably stupid extra territorial claims of CCP China and routine transgressions into what is globally perceived to be Indian territory, fucks into any such contact between peoples to stand up against common adversaries.

One shouldn't say u need a blue water navy for coastal defence or harassing fisherman in Champa Sea (SCS). That sounds plain stupid.

China and India complement each other is what the world assumed not knowing CCP has other designs. And they are gonna get u again, u just need another Gorbachev. Or is that Xi himself?

Have you seen the firepower that US deploy on the Chinese coastline? India never had to deal with this kind of foreign power and coercion so you don't know.

The US has a history of doing this to any, but especially non-white, power that it doesn't like. There is a long history of genocide and regime-change that makes any non-white country wary.

China has to build enough ships and aircraft just to blunt the thoughts of white people so Iraq doesn't happen again in East Asia.

But many Chinese already see what is happening with the Uighur "genocide" accusations. This is the same as the WMD accusations against Iraq.

Iraq didn't have an aircraft carrier or destroyer and we saw what happened to them.

You Indians are lucky. You don't have US carriers doing cruises along your coast line. Well, at least not until they get rid of China as a challenge. lol
 

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Have you seen the firepower that US deploy on the Chinese coastline? India never had to deal with this kind of foreign power and coercion so you don't know
U could bet on it, considering you are lambasting the U.S everywhere about it's fall as a superpower and ur ascendancy. U.S (Kissinger) made u what u are today.

The US has a history of doing this to any, but especially non-white, power that it doesn't like. There is a long history of genocide and regime-change that makes any non-white country wary.
Agreed, already.
They don't trust even their so called allies. America is no one's friend. It behaves like that old feudal lord in Hunan.

China has to build enough ships and aircraft just to blunt the thoughts of white people so Iraq doesn't happen again in East Asia.
Hehe. If they really are hell bent on screwing u, there wouldn't be anything that'd stop them. One thing for sure, Communism is both ur boon & bane. That's what saved u until now, it'll pave ur fall in future.

But many Chinese already see what is happening with the Uighur "genocide" accusations. This is the same as the WMD accusations against Iraq.
Okay. Let's assume they are hyping it. Still, don't u think there's illegal trafficking etc in Sinkiang? What is ur govt hiding, now that we are well aware of how u hid the virus, there's something wrong on ur govt's part. Else why the irk?

Iraq didn't have an aircraft carrier or destroyer and we saw what happened to them.
Iraq isn't a peninsula or a fuckin continent colonised as an island state. No talkin abt Navy. Iraq isn't controlling the Gulf which is Iran's domain.

You Indians are lucky. You don't have US carriers doing cruises along your coast line. Well, at least not until they get rid of China as a challenge. lol
Recently they did. Called it regular FONOPS. Even the Americans know very well the Indian Ocean is ofcourse the 'Indian' ocean, and there are limts.
And yes, the U.S and it's minions will target India later, but for now we have common trouble.
 

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Have you seen the firepower that US deploy on the Chinese coastline? India never had to deal with this kind of foreign power and coercion so you don't know.
LOL... Are really acting as a victim now, are you that serious !!!! It was you who tried to invade the land and Seas that doesn't belong to you in the first place. You are amember of UNSC but completely void the rule and claim SCS as your... Why ??? because the sea has your name ??? how absurd..... Do you know the history of the great wall ????

The US has a history of doing this to any, but especially non-white, power that it doesn't like. There is a long history of genocide and regime-change that makes any non-white country wary.

China has to build enough ships and aircraft just to blunt the thoughts of white people so Iraq doesn't happen again in East Asia.
Of course we know....But you're one step above... Following the foot steps of grate Britain establish east India Company in all the poor Countries of Africa and Latin america into debt trap and eventually take over.

But many Chinese already see what is happening with the Uighur "genocide" accusations. This is the same as the WMD accusations against Iraq.
lol.... WMD was never proven even before the invasion, and was challenged by so many with in the US too... While changing the demography in Xinjiang and trying to change their religion is a reality... No matter whatever cover you use.


You Indians are lucky. You don't have US carriers doing cruises along your coast line. Well, at least not until they get rid of China as a challenge. lol
We did have US Carriers in Bay of bengal threatening us, but now we don't because we didn't unlawfully claim Indian ocean, Sri lanka or Pakistan...
 

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Why do you thin China opened up Mainland to Taiwan in 2000s,,,, China though eventually with bring and giving them opportunity Taiwanese would simply become pro Chinese and would be integrated with China......

That Strategy failed so Badly isn't it.....

So now you want to use a stick since you're a new money in town.

Do you've any idea how much investments US has in Taiwan... and giving Taiwan to China opens up western pacific to China against US... Ya.. US would sit ideal since you've many ships :crazy:

Its not just Afganistan... they're pulling troops from bases where number not needed..
Do you see the crash rate of US jets going UP recently right!! Why ??? because their Sorties in training increased, and there's a big deception is being played by US....looks like China and Chinese are falling for it....
this deception will last for decades mind you
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There are now 40!

The 40th Type 054A was launched just in October. This should be the last one before Type 054B


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Based on commemorative coins, possible look of the Type 054B:

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In this layout, there is a VLS grid in the front like the Type 054A but there is also a new set of VLS amidships that used to accomodate slant containers for ASHMs in the Type 054A.
 

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The Type 054B is shaping up to be a big one -- possibly 6500 tons!


Last month, Naval News reported that China is now likely building its long-awaited Type 054B frigate, the successor to its Type 054A, of which 40 hulls have already been made. The report shows satellite photos of the Hudong shipyardwhere a warship is in an early stage of construction, with some modules in place.

The report mentions that the new ship might be the Type 054B or a new class called the Type 057. Furthermore, it states that the partially completed ship is bigger than the Type 054A, with dimensions closer to the Type 052D destroyer that has an estimated length of 147 meters, a beam of 18 meters, and an estimated displacement of 6,500 tons.
 

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