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Re: Israel retaliate Syria with Missile after cross border Shooting

Mods, could this be merged to the Indian stand on Syria thread, because there is no point in proliferating threads. There is going to be a lot of developments in near future in Syria with the West getting read to arm the rebels. So either that thread could be closed or this merged. Thanks.
 

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Syrian opposition leader Ahmed Moaz al-Khatib resigns


Mr Khatib's resignation may intensify concerns about opposition divisions

The leader of the opposition Syrian National Coalition (SNC), Ahmed Moaz al-Khatib, has resigned.

In a statement on his Facebook page, Mr Khatib said he was leaving the job as he wanted to work with more freedom than an official institution allowed.
Read more: BBC News - Syrian opposition leader Ahmed Moaz al-Khatib resigns
 

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I flew secret missions carrying cash and weapons into Syria for Assad, pilot reveals

A former Syrian army cargo pilot has revealed how he flew secret missions for the regime of Bashar al-Assad to carry cash and weapons into the country in the face of international sanctions.


Nazim spoke to The Sunday Telegraph from a border town in Jordan, where he fled with his family last September

By Nigel Wilson, Amman8:00AM GMT 24 Mar 2013

The pilot, who asked to be identified only as Nazim, revealed that he or fellow pilots flew a cargo plane two or three times a month to collect bank notes from Russia - including large quantities of euros and dollars needed to prop up the regime.

He also recounted at least 20 missions to Tehran, two of which he flew himself, to collect Iranian arms and explosives for use by the regime in its effort to crush the rebellion that began two years ago.

His account - the first time anyone involved with such operations has spoken out - came as the conflict within Syria reached a new peak, with each side claiming that the other had used chemical weapons in an attack last week at Khan al-Assal, a town near Aleppo.

Meanwhile President Assad vowed to avenge the death of a senior pro-government cleric who was killed in a suicide bombing on a mosque in Damascus, along with at least 49 others, saying he would "purge" Syria of the militants responsible for the attack. Mr Assad said the attack on Sheik Mohammad Said Ramadan al-Buti, a strong supporter of the regime, was part of a terrorist conspiracy against his government.

The pilot's account appears to confirm Western intelligence officials' belief that the Assad government is being propped up by Russia and supplied with weapons by Iran.

Nazim, 50, spoke to The Sunday Telegraph from a border town in Jordan, where he fled with his family last September. He decided to quit Syria, where he had once been a supporter of the regime, after he and fellow pilots were arrested and imprisoned for 60 days over a plane crash that the regime regarded as suspicious.

He and his family have been given rent-free accommodation by a sympathetic Jordanian - in a block where 26 other Syrian refugee families also live.

A proud and apparently meticulous man, he said he had made many flights abroad during his career in the Syrian army, first as a helicopter pilot and then for 18 years flying Russian-built Ilyushin Il-76 freighter aircraft, designed to carry payloads up to 40 tons.

"I've been to Moscow, North Africa, India, even England," he said, sitting in an austere room in his current home.

"I've carried many kinds of cargo, humanitarian aid, medical aid, sometimes weapons. But now it's not good because these weapons are being used against civilians."

It was last April when Nazim made his own first round trip to Russia to collect cash, flying on a route that took him over Iraq, Iran and Azerbaijan to Moscow's Vnokova airport. "The cargo was bank notes, 30 tons," he said. Some of the currency was brought from the Russian city of Perm, where the country's state currency is printed.

"When we landed at Damascus, secure cars from the Syrian bank were waiting for us at the airport to take the money straight to the bank."

Such special flights were flown up to three times a month, he said, and the cargo was always the same - a combination of Syrian pounds, euros and US dollars. By August last year there had been at least 15 similar flights, he said.

Earlier last year, in January and February, Nazim made two return flights trips to Tehran, each time accompanied by Iran's ambassador to Syria. Upon arrival in the Iranian capital, Nazim said, the plane was guided to a hanger and its crew sent away so that cargo could be loaded in secret.

Although he did not see what was put on board, he recalled being advised to avoid areas of turbulence during the flight back to Damascus as the 40-ton cargo would not be able to withstand a bumpy journey - a discreet way of warning that explosives were on board, he said.

"There were explosive materials. We don't need anything else from Iran. If you looked you wouldn't find any missiles. It was parts, explosives, copper sheets that could be used to make weapons in Syria." After four or five hours he and the crew re-embarked to fly the plane back to Damascus. "There were around 20 such flights to Tehran from April 2011 to July 2012," he said, adding that they received special permission from the Iraqi foreign ministry to overfly Iraq, "probably without American knowledge".

It was not possible to verify details of Nazim's account, but his full name is known to The Sunday Telegraph and he showed his Syrian Air identity card.

The planes he flew were owned and operated by the Syrian Air Force, he said, but when flying abroad they would be presented as civilian aircraft, part of the national carrier, Syrian Air. The pilots, flight engineers, navigators were all military staff, but were issued with Syrian Air identity cards which they always used when on international flights.

A Sunni Muslim, Nazim also described how he and other officers were arrested and imprisoned in a tiny cell, measuring four feet by seven and a half feet, after a cargo plane crash landed, killing the pilot - a member of the Alawite sect to which the Assad family belong.

"They took me from work and they put me in prison for 60 days. We were 12 people," he said. "There were some pilots, some civilians and some artillery. All of them were officers." He was interrogated about the plane crash almost daily until in mid-September - with no explanation offered - he was abruptly released.

"I decided to leave Syria when I got out of prison, because when I got home I found my house was burned down," he said.

"I asked my neighbours what had happened. They told me three vehicles came to your house. They broke the door, went upstairs and took your uniform, your black bag and a souvenir from a trip abroad.

"Then they threw a white powder, phosphorous, on the ground and they burned the house. It burned swiftly, my neighbours saw the fire coming from the windows. I was in the army, working for the government, and yet they burned my house.

Fearful that he might be arrested again after a few days, he decided that the only safe course of action was to flee. "It might be OK now, but in a few months, they might round up every officer that isn't Alawite and kill him. I was scared for my life, and my family and I knew I had to leave."

Having reunited with his wife and daughters, who had relocated with neighbour's help to a safer spot within Syria, he embarked on the dangerous four-day trip to the border, through territory controlled by the rebel Free Syrian Army.

In Dael, a town just north of Deraa in the south-west of the country, a government sniper shot at their vehicle. A bullet tore through his son's arm before striking his nine-year-old daughter, who had been sitting on his lap. After receiving rudimentary medical treatment at a makeshift hospital nearby, he told doctors he would take his daughter with him even if she died, and the family set out on foot for the final eight-hour stretch to the Jordanian border.

They arrived in the Kingdom without any further hiccups but the journey left the family exhausted and his daughter required urgent surgery. "She was in hospital for 15 days," he said. "She had her spleen removed and now she's OK." He showed the scars on her stomach, including two small circles where the bullet ripped through her skin.

Gazing out of the large window of the upper-floor flat where he now lives with his family, he can see into his home country and is still wistful about the life they have left behind, even though everything has now changed.

He paints a picture of a tolerant, pluralist society held back by favouritism among the political elite. "Most of my friends are Christians, many Alawite, Druze and some are Muslim like me," he said.

"The problems started in Syria 40 years ago with Hafez Assad, who only took care of his family and not the population. The revolution has come now but there was always a fire behind the ash. You couldn't see it, but it was there."

The internet had changed everything for the people of Syria, he said. "This is a different generation. The Syrian people are an educated people. We just want some freedoms. Not freedom like in the West, just some small freedoms."

He is still hurt by the way the army has behaved throughout the long rebellion. "The army belongs to me," he said. "It's my army, but it's turned against the people."

And he wishes he were not trapped in Jordan, unable to return home and unable to return to the flying he loved. "Every day I look to the sky," he said. "I see aircraft and I think I want to do something for my people, my country. Not just my country, but for the world."

Source: I flew secret missions carrying cash and weapons into Syria for Assad, pilot reveals - Telegraph

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He paints a picture of a tolerant, pluralist society held back by favouritism among the political elite. "Most of my friends are Christians, many Alawite, Druze and some are Muslim like me," he said.
A person who is indeed tolerant wouldn't call others Alawite and himself a Muslim. There is a latent Wahhabi streak to this man's comments (or however it was translated).
 

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Syria chemical weapons: finger pointed at jihadists - Telegraph


Whatever happened last week in the town of Khan al-Assal, west of Aleppo, it achieved something extraordinary in the Syrian civil war: unity among Washington, Moscow and Damascus.

All welcomed the rapid decision by Ban Ki-moon, the United Nations secretary-general, to investigate an alleged chemical attack that reportedly killed 26, including Syrian soldiers.

Unusually, the request for that investigation came from the Syrian regime, which claimed that Islamic jihadist rebels launched a chemical weapons attack. Since then, precious little evidence in any way has come from the area despite an awful lot of diplomatic noise around the world.

However a senior source close to the Syrian Army has given Channel 4 News the first clear account of what he claims is believed to have occurred on Tuesday. He is a trusted and hitherto reliable source who does not wish to be identified.
 

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House Intel Chair: 'Red Line Has Been Crossed' in Syria | The Weekly Standard

House Intelligence Committee chair Mike Rogers said this morning on CBS that "it is abundantly clear that that red line has been crossed." Watch here.

"I think that it is abundantly clear that that red line has been crossed," said the House Intel chair, about chemical weapons being used in Syria. "There is mounting evidence that it is probable that the Assad regime has used at least a small quantity of chemical weapons during the course of this conflict."

President Obama has maintained that the use of chemical weapons in Syria would cross a red line. But he is not yet willing to say whether chemical weapons were used last week in Syria.

" With respect to chemical weapons, we intend to investigate thoroughly exactly what happened. Obviously, in Syria right now you've got a war zone. You have information that's filtered out, but we have to make sure that we know exactly what happened -- what was the nature of the incident, what can we document, what can we prove. So I've instructed my teams to work closely with all of the countries in the region and international organizations and institutions to find out precisely whether or not this red line was crossed," Obama said the other day in Jordan when asked about the chemical weapons in Syria.
 

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Re: Israel retaliate Syria with Missile after cross border Shooting

IDF soldiers on Sunday morning fired a Tammuz missile at a Syrian army position in Tel Fares, from which shots were fired both that day and the previous day across the border into the Israeli-controlled Golan Heights. The missile destroyed the Syrian post and reportedly wounded two gunmen there.
 

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Mods, could this be merged to the Indian stand on Syria thread, because there is no point in proliferating threads. There is going to be a lot of developments in near future in Syria with the West getting read to arm the rebels. So either that thread could be closed or this merged. Thanks.
Thanks. Threads merged. Next time please report posts or threads. It is easier and faster that way.
 

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Syrian President Assad Assassinated By Own Bodyguard...Excepted He is dead


Various reports published that Assad al-Shami was rushed to the hospital and in serious condition. עוד דווח על מהומה גדולה שהתפתחה סביב לבית החולים וכי כל הדרכים המובילות אל בית החולים נחסמו על-ידי צבא סוריה. Also reported the big fuss that has developed around the hospital and that all roads leading to the hospital were blocked - by the Syrian army. עוד דווח על כוחות צבא גדולים שנמצאים בתוך בית החולים. Also reported large military forces are in the hospital.


Mise à jour : Selon le média arabe الطيرة - موقع مدينة الطيرة, Bachar el Assad aurait bien été gravement blessé par balles hier soir samedi 23 mars par son garde du corps iranien mais ne serait pas décédé. Il serait actuellement hospitalisé, entre la vie et la mort, à l'hôpital Shami de Damas dont les rues adjacentes ont été fermées.

Information exclusive (en France): Selon des informations publiées dans la presse arabe (puis republiées dans la presse israélienne), des informations que les journalistes affirment avoir « vérifiées », le dictateur syrien Bachar el Assad aurait été tué ce matin par un de ses gardes du corps. Un important dispositif de sécurité a été mis en place à l'hôpital du Damas.

L'assassin du Boucher de Damas serait son garde du corps iranien, un officier de l'armée nommé Mehdi Jakoby. Il était en charge de la sécurité présidentielle et avait été « offert » par Téhéran à son fidèle allié syrien.

Selon diverses sources, on signale d'importants combats armés dans tout Damas. Les routes qui mènent à l'hôpital seraient fermées.


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Les locaux des TV syriennes auraient été abandonnées.

Si cette information venait a être confirmée officiellement, ce serait une victoire pour les islamistes qui luttent pour la prise du pouvoir en Syrie. Nul ne sait vraiment ce qu'il en sera demain si Assad est réellement mort. Est-ce que l'Iran va reculer d'un pas ? La Russie va t-elle voir rouge devant la perte de son meilleur allié ? Quid de la Chine ? Et les Etats-Unis qui ont encore promis cette semaine de mettre un termes « dans les prochains jours » au régime de Damas, seront-ils assez fort pour transmettre le pouvoir à d'honnêtes syriens

Bachar el Assad aurait été tué par un garde du corps… (médias arabes) | JSS News

Please use Google Translate to read in English..because no west media available at this time
 

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דיווח ערבי: התנקשות בחייו של אסד


על-פי דיווחים בכלי תקשורת ערביים שלא אומתו על-ידי גורמים רשמיים התנקש שומר ראשו של נשיא סוריה בחייו אבטחה כבדה סביב בית החולים א-שאמי בדמשק ובתוך בית החולים

כלי תקשורת ערביים מדווחים על התנקשות בחייו של נשיא סוריה, בשאר אסד. על-פי הדיווחים, שטרם אומתו וטרם קיבלו הד בכלי תקשורת מערביים, ירה באסד אחד משומרי ראשו.

מדובר בקצין אירני בשם מהדי יעקובי, אשר הוצמד לאסד על-ידי בעלי בריתו של נשיא סוריה בטהרן.

בדיווחים השונים פורסם כי אסד הובהל לבית החולים אלשאמי וכי מצבו קשה. עוד דווח על מהומה גדולה שהתפתחה סביב לבית החולים וכי כל הדרכים המובילות אל בית החולים נחסמו על-ידי צבא סוריה. עוד דווח על כוחות צבא גדולים שנמצאים בתוך בית החולים.

שידורי הטלוויזיה הסורית הופסקו. ככל הנראה מעכבת סוריה את הדיווח הרשמי על ההתנקשות עד שיתברר האם הנשיא יחיה או ימות

News1 | דיווח ערבי: התנקשות בחייו של אסד



Arab media reported the assassination of Syrian President Bashar Assad. On - reportedly not yet been validated and have not yet received echo Western media, Assad fired one of his bodyguards.

This is an Iranian officer named Mehdi Jacoby, who was attached to Assad on - by allies of the Syrian president in Tehran.

Various reports published that Assad al-Shami was rushed to the hospital and in serious condition. Also reported the big fuss that has developed around the hospital and that all roads leading to the hospital were blocked - by the Syrian army. Also reported large military forces are in the hospital.

Syrian television broadcasts were discontinued. Syria apparently inhibits the official report on the assassination until it became clear whether the President will live or die
 

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Unconfirmed reports of Syrian President Bashar Assad's shooting highlight chaos in country


Assad was supposedly shot by his Iranian bodyguard Saturday night, with at least one website saying he had been 'assassinated.' But other online updates by Arab and Israeli media say the report was untrue.

Online reports of Syrian President Bashar Assad's death appeared greatly exaggerated Sunday.

Arab media said Assad was purportedly shot by one of his Iranian bodyguards Saturday night and was in serious condition.

He was supposedly taken to Al-Shami Hospital in Damascus, where surrounding roads were closed off.

Israel News One's ( the last post ) website even reported that Assad had been "assassinated."

But online updates said the Syrian leader's shooting was false and that he was alive and in high spirits. The conflicting reports highlight the chaos that continues to engulf the country, which has been mired in a bloody civil war for two years.

In the latest turn of events Sunday, the leader of the Western-backed Syrian opposition coalition announced he was stepping down.

Unconfirmed reports of Syrian President Bashar Assad's shooting highlight chaos in country - NY Daily News
 

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what the hell??? why na Iranian guard would kill Assad if Iran is his main ally??? This looks like war propaganda.

By chance, don't there a mistake??? because I read that is Ryiadh al-Assad, of FSA, whom was murdered.
 

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Shot by an Iranian body guard? I am not denying it, but it does sound highly unlikely.
 

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Highly unlikely. This is psy war. This is to demoralize into submission Assad forces who are half-heartedly fighting for him.
 

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I think it is just a rumour or a psy ops. I am watching Al Jazeera English and there is no mention.
 

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The site that has published this new is Israeli. This explain all: 99% sure is lie.
 
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I think it is just a rumour or a psy ops. I am watching Al Jazeera English and there is no mention.
Assad Confirmed Dead, Iran Attempts To Control Syria Army


Russian media sources have confirmed that Syria President Bashar Assad was shot by an Iranian bodyguard Saturday night.

"The lone assassination pumped several bullets at point blank range into Assad," said the source. "Assad was rushed to Al-Shami Hospital in Damascus in critical condition. He died on the operating table from heart failure resulting from massive blood loss."

An Israeli security analyst believes the report to be accurate.

"In the last 24 hours have we seen Assad? Any photographs or video? No. Nor will we see any as loyalists who are closest to Assad have been threatened if any leaked photos or reports reach Western media. Iran is attempting to take control of the Syrian army and its wealth of weapons as Syrian solders are now deserting in mass. I don't believe that the West will allow any Iranian control of Damascus."

"There was a reason why Barack Obama visited Israel. And it was not for a photo op with Miss Israel. I don't think Netanyahu would apologize to Turkey or to anyone. But if it was between a dead Assad and saying sorry to Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan I think there was no hesitation in making that telephone call to Ankara."

The Israeli analyst said that several events have taken place in the last 24 hours including the Syrian army shooting at an Israeli border patrol unit. It is believed that this action was coordinated by Assad loyalists who stood outside the dead President's hospital room to deflect the global media from the assassination and to pull Israel into a war with the Syrian army. The leader of the Western-backed Syrian opposition coalition announced he was resigning.

Moaz al-Khatib didn't detail what motivated his decision, in a status update made on social media Website Facebook.
But he did say that he now had the ability to "work with freedom that cannot be available within the official institutions."

Al-Khatib also said the international community has failed to adequately support the rebels' fight against Assad.

Opposition members from Syrian's President Bashar Assad's Alawite sect demanded his overthrow today and urged their co-religionists in the Syrian army to rebel.

"We call on our brothers in the Syrian army, specifically members of our sect, not to take up arms against their people and to refuse to join the army," the delegates said in a news release after two days of meeting in the Egyptian capital.

The Israeli analyst said that the Israeli army is on heightened alert in the North and the US is moving a battle carrier group off the Syrian coast. That the US would not tolerate any further action by Iran inside Syria and has warned Iranians to leave the country.

"Assad had complete and total support from both Iran and Russia. They backed Assad in his bloody campaign which resulted in the loss of over 70,000 Syrian civilians. No one helped those Syrians except for one country - Israel. They have taken in dozens of wounded Syrians across the border who are now being cared for in Israeli hospitals."

"We can expect to see a photo of a dead Assad within 48 hours. There are many phone cameras in the pockets of those guarding his body. One of those photos would be worth almost a million dollars to the one getting that photo out to the Western media."

http://www.israelnewsagency.com/basharassadsyriaassassinationdeadiranrussiaarmyusisraelidfnatoturkeyalawitesobamanetanyahu48032413.html
 

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