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Syria has has the OSA AK and Israel has been going in and out of Sy ria for five years like some one left the door open.
 

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Acoording to SIPRI Syria had Pantsyr-S1 , SA-19 Grison ,SA-17 BUK ,SA-17 Grizzly , S-125 Pechora-2M and Igla MANPADS and Mostly all of them Protecting their Capital city from Enemy Invaders

But last Air Strikes in Syrian soil there is two Direct attack and a Stand off Missile attack ( Spice Missile) from Lebanon Air Space ..But Interestingly there is no SAM launch or EW Alarm Triggered in Their Capital after the Blast sound they Realize we are Invaded ..So we can easily say there RADAR's didn't catch the Target are been Malfunctioned ..That's why the Syrian door Always opened

and One more even Libya is more well Shielded by Russian AD's but the west and NATO successfully breached and win the WAR
 

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entire blood bath in Syria and the untold suffering of the Syrian people could have been prevented if the so-called international community had in fact made an effort right away, at the beginning, when Assad was ready for negotiations time and again, to support such negotiations instead on insisting - against the wishes of the Syrians - that Assad had to go. The fact that the rebellion started with a desire for reforms but without replacing Assad - those were the true wishes of the people - was just simply ignored by the West cum Israel who instigated the civil war as a means to oust Assad. Now it can only be hoped, for the sake of the Syrian people, that Assad prevails and gets to oust the entire collection of islamist hoodlooms and thugs so a functioning state can be restored. And the west will do well to support Assad. The alternative is a failed state, indeterminate civil war among powergreedy factions and a stronghold for islamic militants. Or, in the alternative that the US intervenes: the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood at the helm of a country governed by Sharia, intolerant of minorities and in the longer run, the entire Middle East governed by the various factions of the Muslim Brotherhood
 

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Syria prepared to fire missiles at Tel Aviv


Syria has put its most advanced missiles on standby with orders to hit Tel Aviv if Israel launches another strike on its territory, The Sunday Times reported overnight Sunday. According to the British newspaper, reconnaissance satellites have been monitoring preparations by the Syrian army to deploy surface-to-surface Tishreen missiles.



An Israeli official told The New York Times that Israel, which has launched three recent attacks on Syria, was considering further strikes and warned President Bashar Assad that his government would face "crippling consequences" if he hit back at Israel.

The Sunday Times said the deployment of the Syrian-made Tishreen missiles, each of which can carry a half-ton payload, marks a significant escalation of tension "in a region in which the United States and Russia appear to be preparing for a Cold War-style stand-off."

Uzi Rubin, Israel's leading missile expert, told the newspaper that the Tishreen missiles are "extremely accurate and can cause serious harm.

"Even if they don't hit Ben-Gurion (Airport) directly, they would halt all commercial flights out of the country," he said.

Report: Syria prepared to fire missiles at Tel Aviv - Israel News, Ynetnews
 

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guess what Which one goes first The Tishreen missiles which targeting Tel Aviv or the recent supply of Russian yakhnot Anti ship missiles ...


I will bet here both of them simultaneously soot down on the ground by IDF
 

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Looks like the ordinary Syrian is ready to embrace the Al-Qaeda affiliates if it results in the ouster of the Assad Regime.

This is from an in depth coverage by Al_Jazeera correspondent

Jabhat al-Nusra's rising stock in Syria - Features - Al Jazeera English

Last month, the leader of Syrian rebel group Jabhat al-Nusra - which has been steadily winning battles and gaining popular support since its inception in January 2012 - was forced to publicly clarify his group's relationship with al-Qaeda.

In a YouTube video posted on April 10, Abu Mohammed al-Jawlani stated: "The sons of Al-Nusra Front pledge allegiance to Sheikh Ayman al-Zawahiri," the former right-hand man of Osama bin Laden and the acting head of al-Qaeda.

With this declaration, Jawlani ratcheted up suspicions in the West that significant elements of the Syrian opposition are ideologically and tactically aligned with al-Qaeda. Nusra is now officially considered a "terrorist" organisation by the US State Department.

With fierce fighters, including veterans of battles in Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan apparently among its ranks, Jabhat al-Nusra is considered one of the most effective groups battling the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

According to a report by the Quilliam Foundation, the group's roots can be traced back to the activities of deceased al-Qaeda leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi during the early 2000s. During a journey from Afghanistan to Iraq to fight US forces, Zarqawi is said to have amassed fighters, sending some to Syria and Lebanon to establish branches of his network; so-called "guesthouses" to train and funnel fighters to Iraq.

The experience of many Jabhat al-Nusra fighters distinguishes them from the often rag-tag Free Syrian Army cadres they sometimes fight alongside. The Quilliam report concluded that al-Nusra's leaders "can use their experience as jihadists in other countries to plan, identify goals, and strategise effectively, making them one of the most efficient groups fighting in the revolution".

Jabhat al-Nusra has been regarded as a bogeyman in the West, and this preoccupation is readily apparent in statements from American policy-makers.

Just one month after Jabhat al-Nusra announced its formation, then-head US diplomat Hillary Clinton cited it and similar groups in Syria as one reason to withhold aid from the Syrian opposition. In a February 2012 interview with CBS, she said, "We know al-Qaeda's Zawahiri is supporting the opposition in Syria. Are we supporting al-Qaeda in Syria?"

But Syrians, watching a well-disciplined and organised group of fighters gain more and more ground against the Assad regime, are increasingly throwing their support behind Jabhat al-Nusra - in spite of its Islamist ideology, several Syrian activists and commentators say.

Support - or at least resigned acceptance - comes from many sides, some unexpected. Noor, a cosmopolitan young Syrian activist based in Turkey, said she's "not threatened by [al-Nusra] or their approach," as long as they continue to win battles against the regime.

Similarly, Ahmed Quseir, spokesman of the Homs branch of the General Authority of the Syrian Revolution, a network of opposition activists in Syria, says the Salafist leanings of al-Nusra "do not pose any risk" to the "freedom of Syrians", or the "type of power" that will emerge in Syria after the war.

In contrast, Abdelbaset Sieda, president of the Syrian National Council, emphasises that al-Nusra's radical ideology - a word he enunciates like an expletive - is "unacceptable" to Syria's "moderate social environment", which thrives on diversity, rather than narrow and literal interpretations of Islamic scripture.

But it seems that Syrians are attracted to al-Nusra as more than a last resort. Activist sources cite al-Nusra's army-like discipline and an ethical code that seeks to protect the people, rather than exploit them, as has been the case with some other Free Syrian Army brigades. Halal speaks of the "vandalism and robbery" perpetrated by FSA fighters, not to mention the more sinister spoils of war that observers have heard whispers of.

Journalist Eli Kamisher relayed an anecdote told to him by a man in Kfranabel. "When Jabhat al-Nusra enter a village, all the thieves and rapists run away."

But Jawlani's declaration of allegiance to Zawahiri strikes even opposition figures sympathetic to al-Nusra as strange. "The relationship [between the two] is not accepted here, and they know that," Alshamy says.

He admits, however, that thinking carefully about the post-Assad future is not high on many people's agendas. "All that is not important now. Now we should focus on staying alive."
 

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For a while I thought Al Assad was about to lose when the intervention by Qatar + Saudi and the West was looming in (most possibly lots of psywars going on to intimidate his supporters) . But now >>

Syrian army seizes rebel stronghold - Middle East News | Latest News Headlines | The Irish Times - Mon, May 20, 2013

Syrian regular forces yesterday captured the main square and municipality building of Qusayr, which is 10km inside Syria on the smuggling route used by rebel fighters travelling from Lebanon to Homs. It straddles the route from Damascus to the coast.

The long-expected operation, launched after air strikes and shelling, was reported by both state television and the opposition, which claimed that fighters from the Lebanese Shia Hizbullah movement had joined battle on the side of the army while Lebanese Sunnis had reinforced the rebels. Up to 70 people have been reported killed.
He warned that fundamentalists fighters in Syria adhered to the "extremist" Wahhabi ideology which Qatar and Saudi Arabia seek to export but said that the Syrian notion of Islam "is very moderate . . . we reject and resist these extremist ideologies that they are trying to instil in Syrian society.
The young Assad , an iron leader of will , now is an icon of resistance! :thumb:
 

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Good. I support Assad as he is the lesser evil. Wahhabism at no cost.

For a while I thought Al Assad was about to lose when the intervention by Qatar + Saudi and the West was looming in (most possibly lots of psywars going on to intimidate his supporters) . But now >>

Syrian army seizes rebel stronghold - Middle East News | Latest News Headlines | The Irish Times - Mon, May 20, 2013





The young Assad , an iron leader of will , now is an icon of resistance! :thumb:
 

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Good. I support Assad as he is the lesser evil. Wahhabism at no cost.
Whom I support
One is eating Heart and Kills peoples and more will continue

Another one is Bombing his own Peoples and Using Sarin for Vapor

Will yeah
 

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In Syria, 'winning' is a relative term
Much of the fighting on Assad's side is now being done by the militia men of the National Defense Force. They are part time soldiers, trained and armed in 40 days. Their motivation is simple and strong: to defend their districts and to drive out rebels they see as Islamist extremists.

It's thought there are around 50,000 militia soldiers. They know their ground and are proving more adept at urban, street fighting than a regular army trained in national warfare and tank battles.
There is an ebb and flow to most wars. At the moment the government has the flow and rebels are on the ebb.

Syria's story today is one of massacres and executions, gruesomely recorded for history on video, of ruthless attacks by both sides, of MiG warplanes bombing men with mortars and machine guns, a chronicle of death foretold, everywhere.

President Assad may be "winning" the war now, whatever winning means. Rebels may "win" in the end by seeing him leave office. But nobody is really winning.

This is, and has been for months, an unwinnable war, deadlocked and deadly. Neither side can break through and neither side will give up.

Today in Syria, there are only losers.
 

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Overnight, shots were fired from Syria at an IDF patrol. IDF forces returned fire, reporting a direct hit on source of the attaco


--IDF Bulletin
 

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The United States has apologized for leaking information about Israel's alleged attack in Syria several weeks ago.


The United States has apologized for leaking information about Israel's alleged attack on a convoy of weapons in Syria bound for Hizbullah terrorists several weeks ago. According to reports, the "leak" about the U.S. leak came from an Israel Radio correspondent, who listed details of the leak, and the apology.


The tweet came from Israel Radio's diplomatic correspondent Chico Menashe. In his tweet, Menashe wrote "The U.S. has apologized to Israel for leaking details of the attack in Syria. Senior administration officials said to their [Israeli] counterparts that they are examining the issue and that low-level [officials] were responsible for the leak."

In addition, Menashe tweeted, "US officials told that they [will] review the matter. The leak forced Assad to react harshly."

According to Pentagon sources, the tweets by Menashe were true, and the U.S. has apologized to Israel for the leak, which could have put Israeli lives in danger. The sources said that the Pentagon was investigating the matter. Israell has still not confirmed that it was involved in the attack.


http://www.israelnationalnews.com/wap/Item.aspx?type=0&item=168157
 

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If Israel invaded Syria, this would turn into the Lebanon of our generation
 

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An opinion piece on syria with a russian pov. Nice read. Certain excerpts.

Uncertain World: Endgame Draws Near in Syria
After a relative lull, a recent flurry of news suggests that the endgame in Syria is approaching. Some news has been positive. US Secretary of State John Kerry and British Prime Minister David Cameron expressed optimism after talks with Russian leaders, and an international conference aimed at settling the conflict is in the works.

The civil war has reached a stalemate, and without foreign intervention there is simply no end in sight. America's doubts about the Syrian opposition have only grown as the war has progressed. Supporting Syrian President Bashar Assad even de facto, much less de jure, is a political impossibility. And it would be risky to invade Syria on the side of the rebels, all the more so since Russia and China will surely use their veto in the Security Council to deny the intervening forces UN cover. Nobody expects post-Assad Syria to be a peaceful country.
Moscow does not control Damascus and Washington is not in charge of the Syrian opposition. Indeed, the countries with the greatest sway in Syria – Iran, Saudi Arabia and Qatar – remain silent. They have different agendas to the great powers.
If the proposed conference ends in failure, which, unfortunately, is quite possible, it would put the major powers in a difficult position. Washington and European capitals will face a sharp increase in pressure from those who favor arming the rebels.

If the Syrian conflict ends in disaster – with or without direct military intervention – Moscow could try to distance itself from the situation, but its painstaking work over the past two years will have been for nothing and its reputation as the ally of doomed regimes will only grow more entrenched.
 

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Syria receives fresh Russian arms, Cameron looking like Neville Chamberlain!

Putin is a skilled, cynical international diplomat. What he cares about is maintaining his client state - the Assad regime in Syria. As a former KGB officer he will go to whatever lengths necessary to accomplish that, up to the point that the price of maintenance is higher than the benefits yield. At that time he will sell Assad for political capital, if that time is ever reached...

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Part of the reluctance of American involvement is the political reality that Assad's alleged chemical weapons may originally have been obtained from Saddam Hussein. The American Left has long sought to quash any evidence that there were weapons facilities in Iraq, but it's been suspected from the outset that WMD's may have been moved by Russia to Syria in 2003.

This is a political reality that neither Obama nor Cameron wish to face. The idea that Bush-Blair may have been right all along, that there were WMD's in Saddam Hussein's Iraq, is too much for too many to contemplate because so many ideological lies have been built on an alternate version of events. But a White House Regime that will cover-up the reasons for an assassination for perceived political gain is certainly capable of avoiding conflict to save face.
 

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If Israel invaded Syria, this would turn into the Lebanon of our generation
Israel may strike targets in Syria and Lebanon. Odds for invasion are small, I believe.
 

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Israel may strike targets in Syria and Lebanon. Odds for invasion are small, I believe.
The violence in Syria/Lebanon then might easily spill over into Israel, prompting escalations from the IDF. That was how Israel found itself dragged into the Lebanon mess in 1981-82.
 

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