The Rise of China : Strategic Implications.

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The Rise of China :- STRATEGIC implications..

Following analysis written by Sri Rajinder Puri on The Statesman, appeared in the Newspaper on today, 24th June,2009.


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Is Nazi China rising?

For years I have maintained that China’s People’s Liberation Army is a government within the government. I have repeatedly pointed out that the actions of the Beijing government betray attributes of Nazi Germany.
On 1 September 2004 in an article entitled The Real Axis of Evil I wrote, “China has emerged as a corporate version of Nazi Germany.” Now speeches purportedly by the former Defence Minister and Vice-Chairman of China’s Central Military Commission, Chi Haotian, have come to my notice. The text of one speech is reproduced below. It confirms the worst fears about the Beijing regime. But is the speech authentic?
Chi Haotian’s speeches were posted on Chinese language websites, www.peacehall.com on 15 February 2005 and on www.boxun.com on 23 April 2005. The contents of the speeches have not been contradicted by official sources in China. The background of the posted speeches remains a mystery. The titles of the two speeches are War is approaching us and War is not far from us and is the Midwife of the Chinese Century. An article by San Renxing in the Falun Gong owned Epoch Times of 8 August, 2005 entitled The CCP’s Last-ditch Gamble: Biological and Nuclear War has analysed the speeches to judge authenticity.
Renxing, a staffer, wrote: “I will focus on verifying the authenticity of the speech… Looking at the speech in isolation, the words and logic both reflect deep understanding of the ‘Party culture’ represented by Mao Zedong, Deng Xiaoping, Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao. Also mixed in are the fascist teachings of He Xin, a new favourite of the CCP’s… For example, the speech cited Mao’s ideas of leading the allies to victory, ‘When they benefit from alliance with you, they will support you’, to defend the ‘Three Represents’ proposed by Jiang Zemin. This is a very faithful interpretation… The speech also says, ‘The population, even if more than half dies, can be reproduced. But if the Party falls, everything is gone, and forever gone!’ This is almost identical to Mao’s theory on nuclear war, in which he suggested killing half of the Chinese people and leaving the other 300 million to build communism… Some people might think that we can’t establish the authenticity of the speech just because Mao said something similar. Coincidentally, at this critical moment, Professor (General) Zhu Chenghu of the National Defense University jumped out and announced to the world very loudly that if the Untied States got involved in a war between Taiwan and Mainland China, China would be the first to use nuclear weapons and wipe out hundreds of cities in the United States, even at the cost of losing every city east of Xi’An. In an unpublished speech by Professor Zhu, he also revealed that the CCP will store enough nuclear weapons to destroy half of the human race… Despite most people’s unrealistic fantasies about the CCP, he showed what the CCP is really about and authenticated Chi Haotian’s speech… A low-ranking general would not say such arrogant things without the implicit approval of the CCP’s ‘board of directors’… It’s not that the United States doesn’t know who is the true source of disasters in this world and who the undisputed axis of evil is. Who is the forerunner and consistent sponsor of terrorism? Who is spreading nuclear weapons to North Korea, Iran, and Libya through Pakistan? Who is instigating Kim Jong-Il, Osama Bin Laden…?”
The following are some extracts from the speech by Chi Haotian:
“As everybody knows, according to the views propagated by the Western scholars, humanity as a whole originated from one single mother in Africa. Therefore, no race can claim racial superiority. However, according to the research conducted by most Chinese scholars, the Chinese are different from other races on earth. We did not originate in Africa. Instead, we originated independently in the land of China. The Peking Man at Zhoukoudian that we are all familiar with represents a phase of our ancestors’ evolution… Therefore, we can assert that we are the product of cultural roots of more than a million years, civilisation and progress of more than ten thousand years, an ancient nation of five thousand years, and a single Chinese entity of two thousand years. This is the Chinese nation that calls itself, ‘descendents of Yan and Huang’, the Chinese nation that we are so proud of. Hitler’s Germany had once bragged that the German race was the most superior race on Earth, but the fact is, our nation is far superior to the Germans… Will the centre of the world civilisation shift back to China…?
“Nazi Germany also placed much emphasis on the education of the people… aimed at instilling into the people’s minds… that German people are superior… Nonetheless, Germany was defeated in utter shame, along with its ally, Japan. Why? We reached some conclusions at the study meetings of the Politburo… When we decide to revitalise China based on the German model, we must not repeat the mistakes they made…
“Specifically… they did not adhere to the principle of eliminating enemies one at a time… the fundamental reason for the defeats of Germany and Japan is that history did not arrange them to be the ‘lords of the earth’, for they are, after all, not the most superior race…
“As Comrade Jiang Zemin put it, Germany belongs to ‘ ‘pediatrics’ ~ too trivial to be compared. How large is Germany’s population? How big is its territory? And how long is its history? We eliminated eight million Nationalist troops in only three years. How many enemies did Germany kill…? Our Chinese people are wiser than the Germans because, fundamentally, our race is superior to theirs. As a result, we have a longer history, more people, and larger land area…
“The bottom line is, only China, not Germany, is a reliable force in resisting the Western parliament-based democratic system. Hitler’s dictatorship in Germany was perhaps but a momentary mistake in history…
“Comrade Mao Zedong taught us that we must have a resolute and correct political orientation. What is our key, correct orientation? It is to solve the issue of America… Comrade He Xin asserted in his report to the Party Central Committee… only by breaking the blockade formed by the western countries headed by the United States can China grow and move towards the world… Would the United States allow us to go out to gain new living space? First, if the United States is firm in blocking us, it is hard for us to do anything significant to Taiwan and some other countries! Second, even if we could snatch some land from Taiwan, Vietnam, India, or even Japan, how much more living space can we get? Very trivial! Only countries like the United States, Canada and Australia have the vast land to serve our need for mass
colonisation… Therefore, solving the ‘issue of America’ is the key to solving all other issues…
“In history, when a country defeated another country or occupied another country, it could not kill all the people in the conquered land, because back then you could not kill people effectively with sabers or long spears, or even with rifles or machine-guns… Only by using special means to ‘clean up’ America will we be able to lead the Chinese people there… What kind of special means is there available for us to ‘clean up’ America? Conventional weapons such as fighters, canons, missiles and battleships won’t do; neither will highly destructive weapons such as nuclear weapons. We are not as foolish as to want to perish together with America by using nuclear weapons… Only by using non-destructive weapons that can kill many people will we be able to reserve America for ourselves. There has been rapid development of modern biological technology, and new bio-weapons have been invented one after another. Of course we have not been idle; in the past years we have seized the opportunity to master weapons of this kind. We are capable of achieving our purpose of ‘cleaning up’ America all of a sudden… Biological weapons are unprecedented in their ruthlessness, but if the Americans do not die then the Chinese have to die… If, however, the attack fails and triggers a nuclear retaliation from the United States, China would perhaps suffer a catastrophe in which more than half of its population would perish. That is why we need to be ready with air defence systems for our big and medium-sized cities. Whatever the case may be, we can only move forward fearlessly for the sake of our Party… The population, even if more than half dies, can be reproduced. But if the Party falls, everything is gone, and forever gone…”
This speech appears to represent a powerful stream of thought in the Chinese government. General Zhu’s nuclear threat invited a mild reprimand from the Beijing government. Why does Beijing remain mum before General Chi Haotian, former Defence Minister and Vice Chairman of the Central Military Commission up till 2003? President Hu Jintao may be titular Chairman of China’s powerful Central Military Commission. But he never served in the army. Chi Haotian is a former army general. So who calls the shots in China ~ the Party or the PLA?

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China, U.S. eye restoring comprehensive military ties

China, U.S. eye restoring comprehensive military ties_English_Xinhua




BEIJING, June 24 (Xinhua) -- China and the United States are looking at restoring comprehensive military relations after an 18-month hiatus in their defense talks.

Defense officials from China and the United States concluded Wednesday the 10th annual round of defense consultations, the first and highest-level defense dialogue since the Obama administration took office.

"China wants to develop its military relations with the United States based on the principles of mutual respect, trust, reciprocity and mutual benefit," Ma Xiaotian, deputy chief of the General Staff of the Chinese People's Liberation Army, told a press conference after the talks.

He said China also proposed to construct a pattern for military exchange and cooperation with the United States with features of "reciprocity" and "mutual benefit."

"We hope the United States would take substantial measures to remove the barriers that hinder our military relations and make efforts to promote long-term, stable development between the two militaries," Ma told reporters.

Sino-U.S. defense consultations were suspended after the outgoing Bush administration announced a 6.5-billion-U.S.-dollar arms package for Taiwan last year. The next round of annual talks would ordinarily have been held in December.

High-level military talks resumed in February, when David Sedney, a U.S. deputy assistant secretary of defense, visited Beijing.

The 11-member U.S. delegation was led by Under-Secretary of Defense for Policy Michele Flournoy, who is in charge of the formulation of national security and defense policy.

Flournoy said the Obama administration wanted to establish a new framework for U.S.- China military relations, which would translate common interests into concrete actions and expand areas of security cooperation.

"It has been a very constructive talk," said Flournoy, who added that a continuous dialogue would lead to a much more sustained and cooperative relationship between the United States and China over time.

According to Ma, the two sides, during the talks, touched on the issues of Taiwan, the security situation in the Asia-Pacific region, anti-terrorism efforts, the Korean Peninsular nuclear issue, the Iran nuclear issue and nuclear disarmament.

A focus of China-U.S. ties was the Taiwan issue and U.S. arms sale to Taiwan, Ma said, noting that U.S. arms sales to Taiwan were the biggest factor undermining bilateral military ties.

Flournoy said that in terms of U.S policy toward Taiwan, "there is tremendous consistency over time," and the new administration reaffirmed the commitment to the one-China policy and the three Chinese-U.S. joint communiques.

China also reiterated its opposition to U.S. planes and ships entering China's exclusive economic zone, according to a press release from the Chinese defense ministry. However, it also expressed willingness to maintain consultation with the U.S. side on related issues.

"We hope both sides could make joint efforts to avoid any air-sea accidents that might affect bilateral relations," Ma added.

Flournoy said the two countries had a strong desire to reduce the number of unwanted incidents. "When they do occur, we will resolve them as carefully as possible."

The two sides also agreed to hold special consultations in Beijing later this year to address the issue of military security at sea.

For the Korean nuclear issue, the two sides agreed it was a serious concern for the relevant nations.

"For the security of the northeast Asian region, the nuclear issue on the Korean peninsula is not only a serious concern for the United States, the Republic of Korea and Japan, but also for China," Ma said.

He insisted that the issue should be addressed by diplomatic means and through consultation and dialogue.

Flournoy said the United States would work with other parties concerned to get the Democratic People's Republic of Korea back to the talks about denuclearization.

Both sides also confirmed that the two defense ministries would conduct senior military-to-military visits within this year.

Ma said the Vice Chairman of the Central Military Commission of the Communist Party of China, Xu Caihou, would visit the United States this fall, while Flournoy hoped that U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates would visit China at the end of this year.

This round of talks marked the resumption of deputy-ministerial level defense consultations. The last such meeting was in December 2007.
 

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Is Nazi China rising?

Is Nazi China rising?

For years I have maintained that China’s People’s Liberation Army is a government within the government. I have repeatedly pointed out that the actions of the Beijing government betray attributes of Nazi Germany.
On 1 September 2004 in an article entitled The Real Axis of Evil I wrote, “China has emerged as a corporate version of Nazi Germany.” Now speeches purportedly by the former Defence Minister and Vice-Chairman of China’s Central Military Commission, Chi Haotian, have come to my notice. The text of one speech is reproduced below. It confirms the worst fears about the Beijing regime. But is the speech authentic?
Chi Haotian’s speeches were posted on Chinese language websites, ²©Ñ¶ÐÂÎÅÖ÷Ò³ boxun news on 15 February 2005 and on ²©Ñ¶ ÐÂÎÅÍø£¬ÖйúÐÂÎÅ china news,ÎÄ̳ on 23 April 2005. The contents of the speeches have not been contradicted by official sources in China. The background of the posted speeches remains a mystery. The titles of the two speeches are War is approaching us and War is not far from us and is the Midwife of the Chinese Century. An article by San Renxing in the Falun Gong owned Epoch Times of 8 August, 2005 entitled The CCP’s Last-ditch Gamble: Biological and Nuclear War has analysed the speeches to judge authenticity.
Renxing, a staffer, wrote: “I will focus on verifying the authenticity of the speech… Looking at the speech in isolation, the words and logic both reflect deep understanding of the ‘Party culture’ represented by Mao Zedong, Deng Xiaoping, Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao. Also mixed in are the fascist teachings of He Xin, a new favourite of the CCP’s… For example, the speech cited Mao’s ideas of leading the allies to victory, ‘When they benefit from alliance with you, they will support you’, to defend the ‘Three Represents’ proposed by Jiang Zemin. This is a very faithful interpretation… The speech also says, ‘The population, even if more than half dies, can be reproduced. But if the Party falls, everything is gone, and forever gone!’ This is almost identical to Mao’s theory on nuclear war, in which he suggested killing half of the Chinese people and leaving the other 300 million to build communism… Some people might think that we can’t establish the authenticity of the speech just because Mao said something similar. Coincidentally, at this critical moment, Professor (General) Zhu Chenghu of the National Defense University jumped out and announced to the world very loudly that if the Untied States got involved in a war between Taiwan and Mainland China, China would be the first to use nuclear weapons and wipe out hundreds of cities in the United States, even at the cost of losing every city east of Xi’An. In an unpublished speech by Professor Zhu, he also revealed that the CCP will store enough nuclear weapons to destroy half of the human race… Despite most people’s unrealistic fantasies about the CCP, he showed what the CCP is really about and authenticated Chi Haotian’s speech… A low-ranking general would not say such arrogant things without the implicit approval of the CCP’s ‘board of directors’… It’s not that the United States doesn’t know who is the true source of disasters in this world and who the undisputed axis of evil is. Who is the forerunner and consistent sponsor of terrorism? Who is spreading nuclear weapons to North Korea, Iran, and Libya through Pakistan? Who is instigating Kim Jong-Il, Osama Bin Laden…?”
The following are some extracts from the speech by Chi Haotian:
“As everybody knows, according to the views propagated by the Western scholars, humanity as a whole originated from one single mother in Africa. Therefore, no race can claim racial superiority. However, according to the research conducted by most Chinese scholars, the Chinese are different from other races on earth. We did not originate in Africa. Instead, we originated independently in the land of China. The Peking Man at Zhoukoudian that we are all familiar with represents a phase of our ancestors’ evolution… Therefore, we can assert that we are the product of cultural roots of more than a million years, civilisation and progress of more than ten thousand years, an ancient nation of five thousand years, and a single Chinese entity of two thousand years. This is the Chinese nation that calls itself, ‘descendents of Yan and Huang’, the Chinese nation that we are so proud of. Hitler’s Germany had once bragged that the German race was the most superior race on Earth, but the fact is, our nation is far superior to the Germans… Will the centre of the world civilisation shift back to China…?
“Nazi Germany also placed much emphasis on the education of the people… aimed at instilling into the people’s minds… that German people are superior… Nonetheless, Germany was defeated in utter shame, along with its ally, Japan. Why? We reached some conclusions at the study meetings of the Politburo… When we decide to revitalise China based on the German model, we must not repeat the mistakes they made…
“Specifically… they did not adhere to the principle of eliminating enemies one at a time… the fundamental reason for the defeats of Germany and Japan is that history did not arrange them to be the ‘lords of the earth’, for they are, after all, not the most superior race…
“As Comrade Jiang Zemin put it, Germany belongs to ‘ ‘pediatrics’ ~ too trivial to be compared. How large is Germany’s population? How big is its territory? And how long is its history? We eliminated eight million Nationalist troops in only three years. How many enemies did Germany kill…? Our Chinese people are wiser than the Germans because, fundamentally, our race is superior to theirs. As a result, we have a longer history, more people, and larger land area…
“The bottom line is, only China, not Germany, is a reliable force in resisting the Western parliament-based democratic system. Hitler’s dictatorship in Germany was perhaps but a momentary mistake in history…
“Comrade Mao Zedong taught us that we must have a resolute and correct political orientation. What is our key, correct orientation? It is to solve the issue of America… Comrade He Xin asserted in his report to the Party Central Committee… only by breaking the blockade formed by the western countries headed by the United States can China grow and move towards the world… Would the United States allow us to go out to gain new living space? First, if the United States is firm in blocking us, it is hard for us to do anything significant to Taiwan and some other countries! Second, even if we could snatch some land from Taiwan, Vietnam, India, or even Japan, how much more living space can we get? Very trivial! Only countries like the United States, Canada and Australia have the vast land to serve our need for mass
colonisation… Therefore, solving the ‘issue of America’ is the key to solving all other issues…
“In history, when a country defeated another country or occupied another country, it could not kill all the people in the conquered land, because back then you could not kill people effectively with sabers or long spears, or even with rifles or machine-guns… Only by using special means to ‘clean up’ America will we be able to lead the Chinese people there… What kind of special means is there available for us to ‘clean up’ America? Conventional weapons such as fighters, canons, missiles and battleships won’t do; neither will highly destructive weapons such as nuclear weapons. We are not as foolish as to want to perish together with America by using nuclear weapons… Only by using non-destructive weapons that can kill many people will we be able to reserve America for ourselves. There has been rapid development of modern biological technology, and new bio-weapons have been invented one after another. Of course we have not been idle; in the past years we have seized the opportunity to master weapons of this kind. We are capable of achieving our purpose of ‘cleaning up’ America all of a sudden… Biological weapons are unprecedented in their ruthlessness, but if the Americans do not die then the Chinese have to die… If, however, the attack fails and triggers a nuclear retaliation from the United States, China would perhaps suffer a catastrophe in which more than half of its population would perish. That is why we need to be ready with air defence systems for our big and medium-sized cities. Whatever the case may be, we can only move forward fearlessly for the sake of our Party… The population, even if more than half dies, can be reproduced. But if the Party falls, everything is gone, and forever gone…”
This speech appears to represent a powerful stream of thought in the Chinese government. General Zhu’s nuclear threat invited a mild reprimand from the Beijing government. Why does Beijing remain mum before General Chi Haotian, former Defence Minister and Vice Chairman of the Central Military Commission up till 2003? President Hu Jintao may be titular Chairman of China’s powerful Central Military Commission. But he never served in the army. Chi Haotian is a former army general. So who calls the shots in China ~ the Party or the PLA?

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Why China Helped Countries Like Pakistan, North Korea Build Nuclear Bombs

Why China Helped Countries Like Pakistan, North Korea Build Nuclear Bombs
By Alex Kingsbury
Posted January 2, 2009

Former U.S. Air Force Secretary Thomas Reed knows nuclear bombs better than most people. For starters, he designed two of them when he worked at the Livermore National Laboratory as a weapons designer.

His new book The Nuclear Express: A Political History of the Bomb and Its Proliferation, co-written with Danny Stillman, the former director of the technical intelligence division at Los Alamos National Laboratory, rewrites much of the public understanding about how countries with nuclear weapons came to acquire them. All countries that built bombs, including the United States, spied on or were given access to the work of other nuclear powers. In particular, the book is a scathing indictment of the Chinese government, alleging that it intentionally proliferated nuclear technology to risky regimes, particularly Pakistan.


How has the Chinese government reacted to the allegations in your book?
At first, they objected to some of this reporting, which was first published in Physics Today, but they later withdrew all objections. The Chinese experts in the weapons labs were probably surprised that we found out all this information and were able to put it all together. In public they say one thing, but behind closed doors and after hours, they are more open. All scientists want the credit for having solved certain problems by themselves without outside help. In fact, in 1949 Klaus Fuchs spied for the Soviets at Los Alamos and when he was released from prison in 1959, fled to East Germany where he met China's chief atomic bomb scientist to whom he explained the inner workings of the Fat Man bomb [which the United States dropped on Nagasaki in 1945].

What was the Chinese strategy behind encouraging proliferation once they had mastered the atomic bomb? The way you describe the Chinese intentionally spreading nuclear technology to countries like Pakistan and North Korea seems both shockingly lax and shortsighted.
Shockingly lax? Yes. Shortsighted I'm not so sure.

Think of it as three constituencies: China in about 1982, under Deng Xiaoping, decided to proliferate nuclear technology to communists and Muslims in the third world. They did so deliberately with the theory that if nukes ended up going off in the western world from a Muslim terrorist, well that wasn't all bad. If New York was reduced to rubble without Chinese fingerprints on the attack, that left Beijing as the last man standing. That's what the old timers thought.

The current Chinese government is far more cautious, though it continued to push technology to North Korea. When the North Koreans decided to test, they clearly did so without a Chinese permit and it really frosted the Chinese because it threatened to prompt Japan and South Korea to start their own programs. They didn't worry about terrorism at all.

The younger generation is adamant about keeping a lid on nuclear technology. They don't want to see Los Angeles blown up because they just sold us 10,000 pairs of sneakers. Those last two forces are contending with each other and it remains to be seen what will happen.

Why , as you say in the book, did the Chinese give the technology to Pakistan?
Pakistan can be explained by a balance of power: India was China's enemy and Pakistan was India's enemy. The Chinese did a massive training of Pakistani scientists, (just like the Russians had done for them) brought them to China for lectures, even gave them the design of the CHIC-4 device, which was a weapon that was easy to build a model for export. There is evidence that A.Q. Khan used Chinese designs in his nuclear designs. Notes from those lectures later turned up in Libya, for instance. And the Chinese did similar things for the Saudis, North Koreans, and the Algerians.

Did the Chinese further assist in the Pakistan program?
Under Pakistani president Benazir Bhutto, the country built its first functioning nuclear weapon. We believe that during Bhutto's term in office, the People's Republic of China tested Pakistan's first bomb for her in 1990.There are numerous reasons why we believe this to be true, including the design of the weapon and information gathered from discussions with Chinese nuclear experts. That's why the Pakistanis were so quick to respond to the Indian nuclear tests in 1998. It only took them two weeks and three days. When the Soviet Union took the United States by surprise with a test in 1961, it took the U.S. seventeen days to prepare and test, a device that had been on hand for years. The Pakistani response makes it clear that the gadget tested in May 1998 was a carefully engineered device in which they had great confidence.

Is sharing nuclear tests common?
The United States conducted nuclear tests in Nevada openly and with full disclosure in the 1990s on behalf of our U.K. allies. We speculate on Israeli access to the U.S. test results. For their part, the Chinese admitted to having conducted hydronuclear and radiation effects tests for France, but most tellingly they also implied—they certainly did not deny—the test of a Pakistani device. The South Africans also apparently worked with the Israelis on a nuclear test in the South Pacific in 1979.

Are Chinese proliferation programs ongoing?

Since 1991, China has been assisting the raw-materials side of the Iranian nuclear program with shipments of uranium, instructions on the design of a conversion facility in Eshfahan, and an enrichment facility at Karaj. China has been using North Korea as the re-transfer point for the sale of nuclear and missile technology to Iran, Syria, Pakistan, Egypt, Libya, and Yemen.

You also write that Israel was given assistance in developing their bomb while the United States looked the other way.
In the wake of the Suez crisis in 1956, the French and the Israelis initiated a joint nuclear weapons program that resulted in a test in the Algerian desert. At that test in 1960, two countries went nuclear with one shot.

Is the world safer or more dangerous with all these powers?
The world is safer for having all the permanent UN Security Council members possess nuclear weapons. I think having North Korea, Pakistan, and India is probably not a good idea. Nuclear proliferation, above all, is not inevitable as many thought at the dawn of the nuclear age.

Why China Helped Countries Like Pakistan, North Korea Build Nuclear Bombs - US News and World Report
 

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The world is safer for having all the permanent UN Security Council members possess nuclear weapons. I think having North Korea, Pakistan, and India is probably not a good idea.
And on what basis does this guy club India with the states like Pakistan and NoKo? Both NoKo and Pakistan are part of Chinese proliferation chain, but world is safe with Chinese having them. US has given access to Israel(and indirectly to South Africa perhaps), but it tries to occupy moral highground about nuclear proliferation. If there is any country that is really innocent(and is likely to be so in future), it is India. India should be sermonising all the other nuke powers to be more responsible. India alone has the moral highground to preach becoz it has been practising the same.
 

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The world is safer for having all the permanent UN Security Council members possess nuclear weapons. I think having North Korea, Pakistan, and India is probably not a good idea.
The Chinese will Nuke New Delhi.... Do they think that we should fold our hands and see what happens.
 

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No date for that archived article?


I will admit it has a level of menace but who was the real audience? As mentioned the background to these speeches is missing so a lot of the whole ‘story’ is mute.

One point I found somewhat humorous “Only countries like the United States, Canada and Australia have the vast land to serve our need for mass colonisation…”. Much of these vast lands are not useable. Most of Australia is not economically useable. Though I suppose water could be piped into the centre of Australia but what water?

It would be more interesting to know the real current status of Chi Haotian.
Also looking at the current economic climate what is china’s economic input to the US economy? It might appear that is counter to the speeches and their intent.
 

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traditionally chinese are not ready to accept the rule of military leader.
 

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I don't know why my post got obliterated, but here goes it again........

Mao is taken to be an expert on guerilla warfare and his leadership in the Long March - the warfare against the KMT, comes to mind.

He is even today revered in China as the Great Helmsman.

Therefore, it is obvious he is a military leader.

And the Chinese love him still inspite of the effort to diminish his image by the current junta.
 

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Courting The Dragon

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2 Jul 2009, 0000 hrs IST, Brahma Chellaney


The key reason why India ranks lower in the policy profile of the Barack Obama administration than it did under President George W Bush is that America's Asia policy is no longer guided by an overarching geopolitical framework. In fact, after five months in office, Obama's approach on Asia lacks a distinct strategic imprint and thus appears fragmented. His administration may have a policy approach towards each major Asian country and issue, but still lacks a strategy on how to build an enduring power equilibrium in Asia.

The result is that Washington is again looking at India primarily through the Pakistan prism. That translates into a US focus on India-Pakistan engagement, revived attention on the Kashmir issue and counter insurgency in the Af-Pak region, including implications for US homeland security. For instance, not content with making Islamabad the largest recipient of US aid in the world, Obama wants victim India to come to the aid of terror-exporting Pakistan, including by offering new "peace" talks and redeploying troops, even if it means more terrorist infiltration.

In a recent Asia-policy speech in Tokyo to a small group, of which this writer was a member, US deputy secretary of state James Steinberg did not mention India even in passing. Whether one agreed or differed with Bush's foreign policy, at least its Asia component was driven by a larger geopolitical blueprint. By contrast, the best that can be said about Obama's Asia policy is that it seeks to nurture key bilateral relationships with China at the core of Washington's present courtship and establish, where possible, trilateral relationships.

The upshot is that the Obama team has just unveiled a new trilateral security framework in Asia involving the US, China and Japan. While announcing this initiative, Washington failed to acknowledge another trilateral the one involving the US, India and Japan. It is as if that trilateral has fallen out of favour with the new US administration, just as the broader US-Australia-India-Japan "Quadrilateral Initiative" founded on the concept of democratic peace ran aground after the late-2007 election of Kevin Rudd as the Australian prime minister.

At a time when Asia is in transition, with the spectre of power disequilibrium looming large, it has become imperative to invest in institution-building to help underpin long-term stability. After all, Asia is not only becoming the pivot of global geopolitical change, but also Asian challenges are playing into international strategic challenges. But the Obama administration is fixated on the very country whose rapidly accumulating power and muscle-flexing threaten Asian stability.

This is not to decry deeper US engagement with China when dependence on Beijing to bankroll American debt has only grown. From being allies of convenience in the second half of the Cold War, the US and China now have emerged as partners tied by such close interdependence that economic historians Niall Ferguson and Moritz Schularick have coined the term, 'Chimerica' a fusion like the less-convincing 'Chindia'. An article in China's Liaowang magazine describes the relationship as one of "complex interdependence" in which America and China "compete and consult" with each other.

But China's expanding naval role and maritime claims threaten to collide with US interests, including Washington's traditional emphasis on the freedom of the seas. US-China economic ties also would stay uneasy: America saves too little and borrows too much from China, while China sells too much to the US and buys too little. Yet, such is its indulgence towards China that Washington holds Moscow to higher standards than Beijing on human rights and other issues, even though it is China that is likely to mount a credible challenge to America's global pre-eminence.

The new US-China-Japan trilateral re-emphasises Washington's focus on China as the key player to engage on Asian issues. Slated to begin modestly with dialogue on non-traditional security issues before moving on to hard security matters, the latest trilateral already is being billed as the centrepiece of Obama's Asia policy. Such is its wider significance that it is touted as offering a new framework for deliberations on North Korea to compensate for the eroding utility of the present six-party mechanism.

Despite its China-centric Asia policy, the Obama team, however, has not thought of a US-China-India trilateral, even as it currently explores a US-China-South Korea trilateral. That is because Washington now is looking at India not through the Asian geopolitical prism but the regional, or Af-Pak, lens a reality unlikely to be changed by secretary of state Hillary Clinton's stop in New Delhi six months after she paid obeisance in Beijing. While re-hyphenating India with Pakistan and outsourcing its North Korea and Burma policies to Beijing, the US wants China to expand its geopolitical role through greater involvement even in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

The point is that India's role will not diminish in Asia just because the Obama administration fails to appreciate its larger strategic importance.

The writer is professor, Centre for Policy Research.
 

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How China Lost Pakistan

July 24, 2009: One of China's major export customers, Pakistan, is being lost to the United States. Not because Pakistan is unhappy with Chinese equipment, but because Pakistan is broke (or more broke than usual), and the U.S. is supplying over a billion dollars a year in military aid. The catch here is that the U.S. always insists that as much of that aid, as possible, be used to buy American weapons and equipment. This is expected to hurt sales of Chinese J10A and JF-17 (co-developed with Pakistan) jet fighters. That's because Pakistan is getting more American F-16s, and upgrades for the F-16s it already has. The U.S. is supplying a lot of other gear, especially to the army, that competes with Chinese models.

It was only last year that, for the first time in over four decades, Pakistan released information on its defense spending. Last year's spending was $4.1 billion. That figure explains why this data has been kept secret for so long. That's because Pakistan's arch-enemy, and neighbor, India is increasing its defense budget by nearly 50 percent, to $39 billion, for this year. The difference should be no surprise. India has six times the population (at 1.1 billion) and 7.5 times the GDP ($1.1 trillion compared to $145 billion). India's economy has been booming for over a decade, while Pakistan's largely stagnates.

This military spending disparity has long been suspected, even with the secrecy. The GPD differences were well known, as were the details of how the two forces were equipped. This, of course, is why Pakistan put so much effort into developing nuclear weapons. Only this would provide a credible defense against a militarily superior India. Pakistan has been spending about 2.8 percent of GDP on defense, while India was long spending two percent (the proposed increase will make it three percent). The global average is about 2.5 percent.

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US, China to Resume Military Contacts

US, China to Resume Military Contacts

By Al Pessin
Washington
28 July 2009

A senior U.S. military commander has announced that the United States and China have agreed to resume routine military contacts and high-level visits by defense officials, and that he expects the process to begin within the next two months.
The commander of U.S. forces in Asia, Admiral Timothy Keating, told reporters the agreement was reached during the two-day U.S.-China Strategic and Economic Dialogue that ended Tuesday here in Washington.
"There was clear agreement on the need and the desire to resume those talks," he said. "There are several high-level military visits - from Beijing to Washington, Washington to Beijing - that are in their final stages of planning. I can't go into, I'd rather not go into the specifics as to when or who. But I can assure you they're in the very final stages of planning."
Admiral Keating said the renewed U.S.-China military talks will be highlighted by a meeting under the Military Maritime Consultative Agreement between the two countries. For two days this week, the admiral participated in the U.S.-China Dialogue, which was led by officials from the U.S. Departments of State and Treasury, and their Chinese counterparts. Keating also met with a rear admiral representing China's defense forces.
China suspended routine military contacts and high-level defense visits with the United States last October, after the announcement of a U.S. arms sale to Taiwan. Since then, there have been several incidents at sea, in which Chinese boats have harassed U.S. ships in international waters near the Chinese coast. In addition, China denied entry to Hong Kong to several U.S. Navy ships, including two that were low on fuel during a storm.
Last month, a senior Defense Department policy official visited Beijing to begin the process of mending military relations.
And Admiral Keating indicated that during Monday's Strategic and Economic Dialogue meeting, there was a considerably warmer atmosphere than had existed at the time of the maritime incidents a few months ago.
"A statement was made by a Chinese delegation official yesterday [Monday] that no country can develop sound policy if they try and do so in isolation," he said. "And I think that's a great way of addressing the sense all of us feel, the desire, to get back together again and discuss exercises, discuss personnel exchanges, discuss responses to humanitarian assistance crises and the provision of disaster relief."
The admiral said both the Chinese and U.S. presidents are committed to renewing bi-lateral military ties and that officials are working on the final details of how to do that as soon as possible.



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Chinese Consul General stresses on strengthening Sino-Indian cultural ties

2009-07-29

Chinese Consul General Mao Siwei on Wednesday said that both India and China need deeper understanding of each other's culture for further strengthening of ties.

"Now China is the No. 1 trading partner of India, but culturally I think that we need deeper understanding between the two countries. So, I think that the inauguration of Lu Xun (bust). I see the importance of today's programme," he said.

Unveiling the bust of a Chinese poet Lu Xun in Kolkata, Mao said the Chinese sentiments are attached to the father of modern Chinese literature in the same way as India's Rabindranath Tagore.

On being asked about reports of India beefing its forces on China border, Mao evaded a reply.

"I have no knowledge about the military movement but I am sure that the Government of China and the people of China believe we will have better relations with the Indian people," he said.

Qian Jiamin, the mayor of Shao Xing city of China, and mayor of Kolkata, Bikash Ranjan Bhattacharya unveiled the bronze bust of Lu Xun at the Town Hall in Kolkata. (ANI

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Instead of unveiling busts, the Mayor should be serious about addressing the civic problems of Kolkata.
 

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India, US planned to attack China through Nepal: Prachanda


6 Aug 2009,

KATHMANDU: Maoist chief Prachanda has made a sensational charge that India and the US had planned to launch anti-China campaign, even a possible attack on the Communist giant, using Nepalese territory.

"I had to quit the post of Prime Minister as my party was opposed to allow our territory to be used against China," Prachanda was quoted as saying by the Rajdhani daily.

"The US-India plan had to face challenge from our party and that triggered the conspiracy against my government," Prachanda, who quit following a rift with his coalition partners over the controversial decision to sack the army chief, said at a training programme of the Maoists here.

Prachanda had earlier blamed India for toppling his eight-month old government in May this year. The Maoist chief said he was quoting a senior Indian professor while making these statements but did not name the Indian scholar.

He alleged that reactionary and conspiratorial elements have been deceiving the Nepalese people by acting as agents of the foreign powers.

"But we will never bow down before any power for the establishment of peace and writing the constitution," he said.

Conspiracy is being hatched to sabotage against the writing of the constitution, he pointed out.

Prachanda's allegations came ahead of a month long protest programme by his party starting tomorrow with the aimed at maintaining "civilian supremacy" and forming a government of national consensus under Maoists' leadership.

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Not upto the mark comment made by Mr. Prachanda
 

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This guy is alligned to china, and never likes democracy. He wants authoritarian government as in china.
 
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Following analysis written by Sri Rajinder Puri on The Statesman, appeared in the Newspaper on today, 24th June,2009.


The link and article follows:



The Statesman

Is Nazi China rising?

For years I have maintained that China’s People’s Liberation Army is a government within the government. I have repeatedly pointed out that the actions of the Beijing government betray attributes of Nazi Germany.
On 1 September 2004 in an article entitled The Real Axis of Evil I wrote, “China has emerged as a corporate version of Nazi Germany.” Now speeches purportedly by the former Defence Minister and Vice-Chairman of China’s Central Military Commission, Chi Haotian, have come to my notice. The text of one speech is reproduced below. It confirms the worst fears about the Beijing regime. But is the speech authentic?
Chi Haotian’s speeches were posted on Chinese language websites, ²©Ñ¶ÐÂÎÅÖ÷Ò³ boxun news on 15 February 2005 and on ²©Ñ¶ ÐÂÎÅÍø£¬ÖйúÐÂÎÅ china news,ÎÄ̳ on 23 April 2005. The contents of the speeches have not been contradicted by official sources in China. The background of the posted speeches remains a mystery. The titles of the two speeches are War is approaching us and War is not far from us and is the Midwife of the Chinese Century. An article by San Renxing in the Falun Gong owned Epoch Times of 8 August, 2005 entitled The CCP’s Last-ditch Gamble: Biological and Nuclear War has analysed the speeches to judge authenticity.
Renxing, a staffer, wrote: “I will focus on verifying the authenticity of the speech… Looking at the speech in isolation, the words and logic both reflect deep understanding of the ‘Party culture’ represented by Mao Zedong, Deng Xiaoping, Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao. Also mixed in are the fascist teachings of He Xin, a new favourite of the CCP’s… For example, the speech cited Mao’s ideas of leading the allies to victory, ‘When they benefit from alliance with you, they will support you’, to defend the ‘Three Represents’ proposed by Jiang Zemin. This is a very faithful interpretation… The speech also says, ‘The population, even if more than half dies, can be reproduced. But if the Party falls, everything is gone, and forever gone!’ This is almost identical to Mao’s theory on nuclear war, in which he suggested killing half of the Chinese people and leaving the other 300 million to build communism… Some people might think that we can’t establish the authenticity of the speech just because Mao said something similar. Coincidentally, at this critical moment, Professor (General) Zhu Chenghu of the National Defense University jumped out and announced to the world very loudly that if the Untied States got involved in a war between Taiwan and Mainland China, China would be the first to use nuclear weapons and wipe out hundreds of cities in the United States, even at the cost of losing every city east of Xi’An. In an unpublished speech by Professor Zhu, he also revealed that the CCP will store enough nuclear weapons to destroy half of the human race… Despite most people’s unrealistic fantasies about the CCP, he showed what the CCP is really about and authenticated Chi Haotian’s speech… A low-ranking general would not say such arrogant things without the implicit approval of the CCP’s ‘board of directors’… It’s not that the United States doesn’t know who is the true source of disasters in this world and who the undisputed axis of evil is. Who is the forerunner and consistent sponsor of terrorism? Who is spreading nuclear weapons to North Korea, Iran, and Libya through Pakistan? Who is instigating Kim Jong-Il, Osama Bin Laden…?”
The following are some extracts from the speech by Chi Haotian:
“As everybody knows, according to the views propagated by the Western scholars, humanity as a whole originated from one single mother in Africa. Therefore, no race can claim racial superiority. However, according to the research conducted by most Chinese scholars, the Chinese are different from other races on earth. We did not originate in Africa. Instead, we originated independently in the land of China. The Peking Man at Zhoukoudian that we are all familiar with represents a phase of our ancestors’ evolution… Therefore, we can assert that we are the product of cultural roots of more than a million years, civilisation and progress of more than ten thousand years, an ancient nation of five thousand years, and a single Chinese entity of two thousand years. This is the Chinese nation that calls itself, ‘descendents of Yan and Huang’, the Chinese nation that we are so proud of. Hitler’s Germany had once bragged that the German race was the most superior race on Earth, but the fact is, our nation is far superior to the Germans… Will the centre of the world civilisation shift back to China…?
“Nazi Germany also placed much emphasis on the education of the people… aimed at instilling into the people’s minds… that German people are superior… Nonetheless, Germany was defeated in utter shame, along with its ally, Japan. Why? We reached some conclusions at the study meetings of the Politburo… When we decide to revitalise China based on the German model, we must not repeat the mistakes they made…
“Specifically… they did not adhere to the principle of eliminating enemies one at a time… the fundamental reason for the defeats of Germany and Japan is that history did not arrange them to be the ‘lords of the earth’, for they are, after all, not the most superior race…
“As Comrade Jiang Zemin put it, Germany belongs to ‘ ‘pediatrics’ ~ too trivial to be compared. How large is Germany’s population? How big is its territory? And how long is its history? We eliminated eight million Nationalist troops in only three years. How many enemies did Germany kill…? Our Chinese people are wiser than the Germans because, fundamentally, our race is superior to theirs. As a result, we have a longer history, more people, and larger land area…
“The bottom line is, only China, not Germany, is a reliable force in resisting the Western parliament-based democratic system. Hitler’s dictatorship in Germany was perhaps but a momentary mistake in history…
“Comrade Mao Zedong taught us that we must have a resolute and correct political orientation. What is our key, correct orientation? It is to solve the issue of America… Comrade He Xin asserted in his report to the Party Central Committee… only by breaking the blockade formed by the western countries headed by the United States can China grow and move towards the world… Would the United States allow us to go out to gain new living space? First, if the United States is firm in blocking us, it is hard for us to do anything significant to Taiwan and some other countries! Second, even if we could snatch some land from Taiwan, Vietnam, India, or even Japan, how much more living space can we get? Very trivial! Only countries like the United States, Canada and Australia have the vast land to serve our need for mass
colonisation… Therefore, solving the ‘issue of America’ is the key to solving all other issues…
“In history, when a country defeated another country or occupied another country, it could not kill all the people in the conquered land, because back then you could not kill people effectively with sabers or long spears, or even with rifles or machine-guns… Only by using special means to ‘clean up’ America will we be able to lead the Chinese people there… What kind of special means is there available for us to ‘clean up’ America? Conventional weapons such as fighters, canons, missiles and battleships won’t do; neither will highly destructive weapons such as nuclear weapons. We are not as foolish as to want to perish together with America by using nuclear weapons… Only by using non-destructive weapons that can kill many people will we be able to reserve America for ourselves. There has been rapid development of modern biological technology, and new bio-weapons have been invented one after another. Of course we have not been idle; in the past years we have seized the opportunity to master weapons of this kind. We are capable of achieving our purpose of ‘cleaning up’ America all of a sudden… Biological weapons are unprecedented in their ruthlessness, but if the Americans do not die then the Chinese have to die… If, however, the attack fails and triggers a nuclear retaliation from the United States, China would perhaps suffer a catastrophe in which more than half of its population would perish. That is why we need to be ready with air defence systems for our big and medium-sized cities. Whatever the case may be, we can only move forward fearlessly for the sake of our Party… The population, even if more than half dies, can be reproduced. But if the Party falls, everything is gone, and forever gone…”
This speech appears to represent a powerful stream of thought in the Chinese government. General Zhu’s nuclear threat invited a mild reprimand from the Beijing government. Why does Beijing remain mum before General Chi Haotian, former Defence Minister and Vice Chairman of the Central Military Commission up till 2003? President Hu Jintao may be titular Chairman of China’s powerful Central Military Commission. But he never served in the army. Chi Haotian is a former army general. So who calls the shots in China ~ the Party or the PLA?

The writer is a veteran columnist and cartoonist
unimaginable nonsense!

so funny
 

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