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Sorry my bad.MMRCA deal have been Cancelled officially. Means we are not buying(read no money) 126.
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Sorry my bad.MMRCA deal have been Cancelled officially. Means we are not buying(read no money) 126.
Means preference of Indians match with Americans. Where would you prefer to live and work?Haaiyn, how do we share interests/ideas/values with US?
And what are these shared interest/values/ideas?
Please tell me, I would like to drop it right away.
And how is this shared interest/values/ideas, any different in the case of so called Right Wing, from the condition of Pakis who also love the people who fcuked them up for good?
Also Russians already have the Iranians by their side. And for good. And mind you only shared borders across the Caspian. These two simply never needed shared interest/values/ideas. So much for the Warm Waters Port theory.
Arre theek hai bhai, people can have their favourite places to visit on the globe, favourite hang outs but how the hell does that translate into shared interest/values/ideas.
India.Means preference of Indians match with Americans. Where would you prefer to live and work?
So you are saying that China can be contained if we cooperate with the US in containing China.But even on a strategic level:
- containment of China
- development of India
But if someone puts a gun to your head to make a choice between Russia and US, you will choose US!!India.
Where I already am both by choice and by Bhawaan Ki Daya sey.
And where I intend to keep my children too and theirs and so on and on and on...
They want to contain China, which means they would help us grow. Does India want to contain China? May be or may be not. But does it want to grow? Yes.So you are saying that China can be contained if we cooperate with the US in containing China.
But then didn't the US nearly made China what it is today?
Then I will choose to live.But if put a gun to your head to make a choice between Russia and US, you will choose US!!
They want to contain China, which means they would help us grow. Does India want to contain China? May be or may be not. But does it want to grow? Yes.
Do you even read again what you write!!Let me put it like this Paki-India size difference was less than the China-India size difference. US tried to make up for that difference. That did not stop Pakis from getting fair treatment at Indian hands. So how exactly would US help us, considering China is the gun at our collective heads.
Bh@$|)K, Mere say uljhe ga to pachtayega. I will chase you to your personal hell and then keep you there for the rest of your natural lifeIdiot both countries are BIGGEST DEMOCRACIES.Not those any fu*** Rus/chi/pak/saudi
Both countries respect CITIZENS RIGHTS .Not those any fu*** Rus/chi/pak/saudi
Indians want to live in do business in US..Not those any fu*** Rus/chi/pak/saudi
Both countries will fight against china in future.
Both countries are respected in the world as soft powers(US hard too).Not those fu*** Rus/chi/pak/saudi
Those small toys are doesn't make an issue,above are..
India unofficially joined US camp.Yes our Right wing is pro US.
I gave you real life examples of size differences (both population size and economic size) where ultimate winning and losing had nothing do with those size differences.Do you even read again what you write!!
You really think China is so far ahead of us!! If it were it would have already taken away Ladakh and Arunachal.
Now you are yet to explain anything of your own while I am trying to explain my own stance.But if put a gun to your head to make a choice between Russia and US, you will choose US!!
I did not say China is gun to our heads. I said US wants to contain China and will help India. Now whether Indian wants to contain China or not is a different story!!I gave you real life examples of size differences (both population size and economic size) where ultimate winning and losing had nothing do with those size differences.
I don't care where China is - ahead of us, behind us or equal to us. That was your injection into the whole argument. You cited China as a Gun on our heads. Unless off course that was not an analogy and mere smalltalk when you asked me the following.
Now you are yet to explain anything of your own while I am trying to explain my own stance.
Man you are such a slave that even in swearing you imitate your opponent. No wonder you suck for US.Bh@$|)K I know more Indians working in saudi,more sickulars want relations with Porki,Socialist or Out dated persons with Rus and Commies with China but at the end of the day all those countries are not use-full for India's progress/path/future except US&West.MODI&RW knows it and they joined hands with US, that is final.
Now you are being kifayati with facts. I gave you 4 examples all of which I stand by. Not just the one you chose to read intoI did not say China is gun to our heads. I said US wants to contain China and will help India. Now whether Indian wants to contain China or not is a different story!!
You brought up the size difference between India-Pak to say US can do nothing if China bullies us. And I said China cannot bully us because we are above the threshold retaliation level to stop China. So, the difference between China-India is much less than India-Pak. Now you don't want to engage in small talk while you were the one who brought it up by comparing us to Pak in Indo-China relationship.
Ok I guess I am an insane person on this thread.Any sane person on this thread, would like to live in US because of the livelihood opportunities and freedom that US offers. Some people might have other fantasies, I can't do anything about them!!
I don't need to rubbish all your claims because the premise you were building was too shaky. I just said India stands to benefit if US wants to contain China. Period.Now you are being kifayati with facts. I gave you 4 examples all of which I stand by. Not just the one you chose to read into
I also gave you the following 3 more examples to help understand that we Indians need not fear China at all. And for some reason you chose to ignore all these three:
OTOHIraq was smaller than Iran and yet Iran did not exactly win despite its greater size. And then US killed off Iraq.
OTstillanotherHRussia itself is much smaller today than US. And yet US finds itself unable to stop Russia in the only theater US choose to challenge Russia.
OTstillanotherH the piddly little Vietnam smacked both US and China when their time came.
Common person in India may care for nothing but they love their mobile phones and technology. And US and other western countries are at the frontier of such technologies. So they may not explicitly like to go to US but would anyday prefer technology and some democracy over Russian gundaraj(Putin's slavery) and bankruptcy.Ok I guess I am an insane person on this thread.
But believe me people actually live in India already. Forget wishing most of them cannot even point out where US is on the map. And they do not care. They do not go about cursing their lives for being in India nor do they go about their lives wishing to be in US.
And those who desperately want to be out of India are always allowed to go settle any place. Off course so long as the other country wants these people. Has been so in this part of the world since apes became man. That is how the world got peopled!!!
Coincidently these poor people of India, also allow the people going out, to come back if they so wish. An arrangement approved by all sides of the political divide. In fact the BJP had some time back declared that India is the natural refuge for all Hindus. Which is just as well.
So is it really about livelihood opportunities and freedom that US offers (in both cases India offers more). Or is this about something else you want to say but find hard to express.
Its always funny when anti american anti capitalist socialist/prorussian fanboys bitch about USA in US owned/derived technologies. It will be even more funny when they get their paisa from USA and bitch about capitalism and what not.Common person in India may care for nothing but they love their mobile phones and technology. And US and other western countries are at the frontier of such technologies. So they may not explicitly like to go to US but would anyday prefer technology and some democracy over Russian gundaraj(Putin's slavery) and bankruptcy.
Any sane person on this thread, would like to live in US because of the livelihood opportunities and freedom that US offers. Some people might have other fantasies, I can't do anything about them!!
What he meant was , compared to RusBut I feel like it is necessary to stand and say it clearly that I was born in this "mitti" and die in same , serving with utmost strength.
Don't take it personally, but I don't like the generalization you made out.
But I gave you options. Not premise.I don't need to rubbish all your claims because the premise you were building was too shaky. I just said India stands to benefit if US wants to contain China. Period.
Now how Vietnam gave China and US a bloody nose does not matter. India stands to gain by partnership with US if US wants to help India to counter China. All your examples do not pertain to the discussion. On top of that India is not a small puny country which can be compared to the above examples you cited. So, I can be kifayati because other points are useless.
Arre bhai, every single Indian also loves Sunny Leone but that does not mean people will bring Sunny Leone into their homes.Common person in India may care for nothing but they love their mobile phones and technology. And US and other western countries are at the frontier of such technologies. So they may not explicitly like to go to US but would anyday prefer technology and some democracy over Russian gundaraj(Putin's slavery) and bankruptcy.
Sir, then I think he misunderstood @Yumdoot , when latter one clearly said that :What he meant was , compared to Rus
So , in this context I thought it was important to clarify my own thoughts.Neither Russia nor US.
Ditto that.But I feel like it is necessary to stand and say it clearly that I was born in this "mitti" and die in same , serving with utmost strength.
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