The Myth of American Exceptionalism

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Beyond the fairytales written in Marxist Utopias, here in real world, a media company can't even go mainstream without political allies. They either have their right or leaning political masters or serve as the mouthpiece of their state to badmouth others.

Nor mainstream medias really do have issue with their reputations, since their regular subscribers belong to a similar political ideology. US media is the epitome of its political divide where CNN and Fox News stand openly for their political spectrums even if they call themselves free. A couple of bashing shows don't make the larger agenda of either unbiased.

In the US anyone can set up, run and make millions if not billions in media. Some of them are so crazy and conspiratorial that it's a wonder how they even exist in the first place. But that is their freedom of expression which they hold so dear. So the US has all sorts of media companies and personalities from the crazies like Newsmax to the most professional and cutting edge of media business like AP, NYT, WaPo, NBC, CNBC, Axios, etc.

None of these media companies however are subservient to the US government. It was US media companies that leaked the Pentagon papers, uncovered the Watergate scandal, trumpeted the misleading WMD in 2003, etc.
 

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In the US anyone can set up, run and make millions if not billions in media. Some of them are so crazy and conspiratorial that it's a wonder how they even exist in the first place. But that is their freedom of expression which they hold so dear. So the US has all sorts of media companies and personalities from the crazies like Newsmax to the most professional and cutting edge of media business like AP, NYT, WaPo, NBC, CNBC, Axios, etc.
All functional nationstates have varying degrees of freedom of expression to allow rise of societies. Democracies have a higher degree of it.

It does not refute our topic that even all media houses do it for money from political classes, not some kind spiritual inner soul injecting morality into them. They purposely misguide public in favour of their favourite political class and against they don't like.
None of these media companies however are subservient to the US government. It was US media companies that leaked the Pentagon papers, uncovered the Watergate scandal, trumpeted the misleading WMD in 2003, etc.
They are essentially subservient to political parties and ideologies they affiliate to. China & Russia have one state. So they have only one mouthpieces. Democracies like US, UK, India, SoKo, Japan or Brazil have mouthpieces party wise.

It has never prevented US media from defaming or framing foreign issues incorrectly as per Western interests. Be it Falklands war, Liberation of Goa, War of 1971, Indian nuclear tests and so forth. US is just another electoral republic like most nationstates around world. It doesn't have anything more sacred.

It has military and economic superiority today that might be taken away by some other country in short or distant future. Nothing exceptional.
 
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Too many Chinese spambots on DFI these days.
That one is amreekunt bot anyways great to see you back nevertheless the fact that majority of filipinos can speak english but not spanish shows just how much tardation was shoved inside.

Its rather well documented how Hinduised kings of Malay in 14th Ad dispatched great traditions to tagalog speakers to the extent that his ancestors acknowledged and borrowed them all as loan wordings in tagalog like "Bathala" means supreme deity in phillipines is itself a loan word from Bharat's Sanskrit "Bathara" meaning great god.

Yet this undignified @asianobserve who is an Asian in the name only skips no chance to badmouth BHARAT the very BHARAT that contributed vastly in shaping the culture of philippines especially the fact that every filipinos owe big one to the Cholas of BHARAT.

Lets dont blame him after he is the output of same lullz quality education system prevalent within phillipines now.

Its also hillarious how philippines was granted "independence" by them coomer amreekunts only after it was forced to sign unequal economic treaties that heavily favored the amreekunts. Not even subhuman roosevelts promise of reparation was never given to filipinos ever even after years of exploitiation yet this coomer spares no chance of sniffing amreekunt chaddi.
 
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In the US anyone can set up, run and make millions if not billions in media. Some of them are so crazy and conspiratorial that it's a wonder how they even exist in the first place. But that is their freedom of expression which they hold so dear. So the US has all sorts of media companies and personalities from the crazies like Newsmax to the most professional and cutting edge of media business like AP, NYT, WaPo, NBC, CNBC, Axios, etc.

None of these media companies however are subservient to the US government. It was US media companies that leaked the Pentagon papers, uncovered the Watergate scandal, trumpeted the misleading WMD in 2003, etc.
Did you get your reparation you were promised you were literally degenerated to became a supplier of raw materials and a market of finished goods by your amreekunts lullzzzzzzzz what more of a literal cuck you could possibly be.
 

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So you're saying that those public health officials quoted by CNN were lying?

So this touchiness about vaccine shortage is about Indian politics! :creepy:

How about this report of vaccine shortage from Times of India, is the Times of India too in league with CNN, Pfizer and Moderna? :bplease:
Care to tell how many pennies you minmum wage slave were paid for betraying your own people as in selling out locations of the filippino revolutionary forces who were fighting amreekunts?
 

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Asian purge has restarted in USA, this time in the name of liberalism.

@srevster @asianobserve will say "just a flesh wound tis but a scratch" .

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Utterly fascinating what is said, and what is unsaid.


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This is so true though. Of course whites are and will continue to be the main villains in the war waged by Leftists in the West. But at their root these people are also Marxist Commies. Which means they want to usher in as much "diversity" and "redistribute jobs, wealth, property etc etc".

Now, Asians, whether it be Koreans, Chinese, Japanese or ones from India and other places have always busted their "America is a 100% racist country" talking point, because Asians have always been successful in education or the workplace, even more than White Americans.

Asian Americans, at least a significant portion of them, also don't fall completely in the American Left's lunacy of wokeism, despite being minorities. There is no sort of visceral hatred in Asian immigrants for America or whites like you'll see in a lot of White Leftists, African Americans or Mexican immigrants.

All of this causes a great deal of resentment and anger against them in the eyes of the Leftists because they are an anomaly to their "America is a 100% racist country where no minority can be successful" and also because despite being minorities, Asians have as much, if not more, success and education as White Americans. It doesn't take much to redirect the hate and anger against them.

Consequently, you see stuff like this. Even though, their public statements and actions will mostly be against Whites all the time, but slowly and slowly the ostracization of Asians is not far away. Because on the minority hierarchy, Asians rank the lowest, well below Blacks or Mexicans or LGBTQ feminists etc etc.

Just look at their history. FDR and the Democrats threw Japanese Americans in concentration camps during WW2. Look at the Rodney King Riots, where Koreans were ruthlessly targeted and looted by rioters and the politicians and media all justified it in the name of "Black power" and "justified anger" and Koreans were demonized and vilified in the media when they tried to defend their stores using guns, and were asked to just take it.

Hell, look at the 2020 "Summer of Love". You think the Whites were the only people who were targeted? No, Asians were attacked in multiple incidents throughout the country by BLM/Antifa rioters, and it was all either brushed away under the carpet, or in cases where Asians tried to fight back, condemnations were launched on Asians.

In fact, this whole new trend of naming Indian-Americans as CEOs and heads of social media companies seems to be a well-thought out plan to me. The CEO is just a tool, a puppet. The actual controllers of these companies will continue to censor, ban and cancel Non-Left viewpoints, consequently driving the anger of the Right Wing in America.

But who will be the public figure, the one who comes out and announces, defends and implements these polices? The Indian CEO. That is who the hate and anger of the RW will be directed to, which when taken up by the more extreme wing of the RW, will result in attacks on Indians just like throughout history.

These attacks will then be used by the Left to show how racist and horrible this country is, so that they can use it to extend their powers in order to "defend Asians against racist White Americans".

No matter what, one thing is clear. There is no friend of the Asian community in the West, whether in the Right or the Left. At the end of the day, they are just a tool to be exploited and used, and they are fools if they think they matter any more than this to the Americans.
 

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This is so true though. Of course whites are and will continue to be the main villains in the war waged by Leftists in the West. But at their root these people are also Marxist Commies. Which means they want to usher in as much "diversity" and "redistribute jobs, wealth, property etc etc".

Now, Asians, whether it be Koreans, Chinese, Japanese or ones from India and other places have always busted their "America is a 100% racist country" talking point, because Asians have always been successful in education or the workplace, even more than White Americans.

Asian Americans, at least a significant portion of them, also don't fall completely in the American Left's lunacy of wokeism, despite being minorities. There is no sort of visceral hatred in Asian immigrants for America or whites like you'll see in a lot of White Leftists, African Americans or Mexican immigrants.

All of this causes a great deal of resentment and anger against them in the eyes of the Leftists because they are an anomaly to their "America is a 100% racist country where no minority can be successful" and also because despite being minorities, Asians have as much, if not more, success and education as White Americans. It doesn't take much to redirect the hate and anger against them.

Consequently, you see stuff like this. Even though, their public statements and actions will mostly be against Whites all the time, but slowly and slowly the ostracization of Asians is not far away. Because on the minority hierarchy, Asians rank the lowest, well below Blacks or Mexicans or LGBTQ feminists etc etc.

Just look at their history. FDR and the Democrats threw Japanese Americans in concentration camps during WW2. Look at the Rodney King Riots, where Koreans were ruthlessly targeted and looted by rioters and the politicians and media all justified it in the name of "Black power" and "justified anger" and Koreans were demonized and vilified in the media when they tried to defend their stores using guns, and were asked to just take it.

Hell, look at the 2020 "Summer of Love". You think the Whites were the only people who were targeted? No, Asians were attacked in multiple incidents throughout the country by BLM/Antifa rioters, and it was all either brushed away under the carpet, or in cases where Asians tried to fight back, condemnations were launched on Asians.

In fact, this whole new trend of naming Indian-Americans as CEOs and heads of social media companies seems to be a well-thought out plan to me. The CEO is just a tool, a puppet. The actual controllers of these companies will continue to censor, ban and cancel Non-Left viewpoints, consequently driving the anger of the Right Wing in America.

But who will be the public figure, the one who comes out and announces, defends and implements these polices? The Indian CEO. That is who the hate and anger of the RW will be directed to, which when taken up by the more extreme wing of the RW, will result in attacks on Indians just like throughout history.

These attacks will then be used by the Left to show how racist and horrible this country is, so that they can use it to extend their powers in order to "defend Asians against racist White Americans".

No matter what, one thing is clear. There is no friend of the Asian community in the West, whether in the Right or the Left. At the end of the day, they are just a tool to be exploited and used, and they are fools if they think they matter any more than this to the Americans.
As an Indian American, a lot of what you say is correct, at least in the grand scheme of what’s shown. However, you would actually be suprised to hear this but many Mexican American immigrants actually stray away from “wokesm”, and family ties run strong among them. Many of them worship their ancestors and take pride in their Aztec heritage. In General, they are probably the most welcoming immigrant group in America I have ever seen. They have strong family values, and encourage hard work among their youth, although of course, their issue with gang activity but this is mainly a suburban issue.
 

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As an Indian American, a lot of what you say is correct, at least in the grand scheme of what’s shown. However, you would actually be suprised to hear this but many Mexican American immigrants actually stray away from “wokesm”, and family ties run strong among them. Many of them worship their ancestors and take pride in their Aztec heritage. In General, they are probably the most welcoming immigrant group in America I have ever seen. They have strong family values, and encourage hard work among their youth, although of course, their issue with gang activity but this is mainly a suburban issue.
Certainly. There's a distinction to be made.

It's definitely true that a lot of the illegal immigrants have strong family values and do not let their children fall into this trap of wokeism.

Perhaps a better description would be that they "enable the spread of wokeism" rather than participate in it themselves.

That's because, especially in recent times, the vast majority of immigration into America has been of illegal border-crossers.

American leftists, if you look at them totally, are a loose political alliance of welfare hogs, immigrants, traditional Marxists, Neomarxists, neoliberal capitalists, corporatists, and traditional democrats.

Most of the Mexican immigrants vote democrats because they care about illegal immigration (their families) and de facto, a lot of them have the same floundering socialist ideas they bring from back home and other Latin countries.

They want amnesty, voting rights, welfare benefits etc etc, for which they support the Democrats. In the end, the cancer of wokeism spreads without a hitch.
 

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Certainly. There's a distinction to be made.

It's definitely true that a lot of the illegal immigrants have strong family values and do not let their children fall into this trap of wokeism.

Perhaps a better description would be that they "enable the spread of wokeism" rather than participate in it themselves.

That's because, especially in recent times, the vast majority of immigration into America has been of illegal border-crossers.

American leftists, if you look at them totally, are a loose political alliance of welfare hogs, immigrants, traditional Marxists, Neomarxists, neoliberal capitalists, corporatists, and traditional democrats.

Most of the Mexican immigrants vote democrats because they care about illegal immigration (their families) and de facto, a lot of them have the same floundering socialist ideas they bring from back home and other Latin countries.

They want amnesty, voting rights, welfare benefits etc etc, for which they support the Democrats. In the end, the cancer of wokeism spreads without a hitch.
Unfortunately, many minorities don’t understand they are being used as pawns for the liberal and democratic elite. The idea of republicans wanting stronger borders gets translated into an anti-immigration agenda by liberal propoganda. Thus, many immigrants fail to realize that and blindly vote democrat, not knowing that the values of them are completely alien to their foreign policies.
 

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Or you could contact Govt of India and they will teach you how to create a centralized portal like cowin.gov.in where all info can be stored accurately and accessed anytime? Because your big tech is not interested in solving problems.They only want to rig elections.

 

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U.S. border draws migrants from Russia, Ukraine

Migrants from South American countries, Cuba and Haiti — as well as more distant nations like Russia, Ukraine, Turkey and India — drove an uptick in traffic at the U.S.-Mexico border last month.

So on December 2021 South and Central American illegal migrants were outnumbered by more distant migrants to the US:

1. 2,000 Russians
2. 300 Ukrainians
3. 800 Indians
4. 500 Turkish

who illegally entered the US through the US-Mexico border.

Btw, how many Americans are trying to legally or illegally immigrate to Russia...? :bplease:
 
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Russian mother: "I am the kind of mother who wants the best for her baby..."

And the best for her baby is America! :bplease:
 

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Russian mother: "I am the kind of mother who wants the best for her baby..."

And the best for her baby is America! :bplease:
Won't they will be subject to American laws and have to pay US taxes no matter where on the planet they live?
Makes them responsible for all those debts run up by the US. Mommy just sold baby into $100 trillion debt slavery. haha. Thanks Mommy. :doh:

Pokemon...so easy to catch them all.
 

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Won't they will be subject to American laws and have to pay US taxes no matter where on the planet they live?
Makes them responsible for all those debts run up by the US. Mommy just sold baby into $100 trillion debt slavery. haha. Thanks Mommy. :doh:

With more and more Russians migrating to the US both legally and illegally, some are even passing through Mexico border, it does seem that paying American taxes is much better than staying in Russia. :bplease:
 
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Some Indians are even willing to risk freezing to death just to migrate to the US...

India probes ‘illegal’ immigration after Canada border tragedy
Police in Gujarat arrest six people in crackdown after four Indians were found frozen to death near the US-Canada border.


But with so much praise here for Russia, I don't see Indian migration to Russia... :creepy:
 

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