The Greatest Kings in Indian History

Who is the Greatest King in Indian History?

  • Chandragupta Maurya

    Votes: 113 33.8%
  • Ashoka

    Votes: 44 13.2%
  • Raja Chola

    Votes: 33 9.9%
  • Akbar

    Votes: 16 4.8%
  • Sri Krishna Devaraya

    Votes: 18 5.4%
  • Chatrapati Shivaji

    Votes: 55 16.5%
  • Tipu Sultan

    Votes: 9 2.7%
  • Ranjith Singh

    Votes: 10 3.0%
  • Samudra Gupta

    Votes: 11 3.3%
  • Chandragupta Vikramaditya

    Votes: 20 6.0%
  • Harsha

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Kanishka

    Votes: 4 1.2%

  • Total voters
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asaffronladoftherisingsun

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So here is the strange thing about Lumbini.

The person who discovered Lumbini was caught plagiarising. He even confessed it was all a scam. He was caught and subsequently fired from his job.

Although the history he concocted hasn't changed. Read here -> https://jambudipa.quora.com/
The antiquity of Lumbini from archaeology is confirmed to go back to 1300 bce. The earliest sites of Buddha include Lumbini Bodhgaya Sarnath and the region near Patiliputra. If as you claim that Sri lanka was a birth place of Buddhas then the first followers of Buddhas should be sri lankan.

Chaukhandi Stupa is the place where Buddha met his 5 disciples first in Sarnath.

Now you want to claim that Sarnath is in Srilanka?
 
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Buddha's first disciples in 500 bce or so initiated into the path of Buddha in Sarnath.

And you are deraling this thread over and over by quote pasting from a 1800ad shitlectual masturbation from quora.
 

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This is the school of Nagarjuna. He lived many centuries after the Gothama Buddha. This school is most probably authentic.

Although Taxila from Buddha's time is most certainly not authentic.

This is the school where nobles and princes from the Buddha's time went to learn different skills. They enter school at age 16.

"Likewise, Jivaka, the famous physician of Bimbisara who cured the Buddha, learnt the science of medicine under a far-famed teacher at Taxila and on his return was appointed court-physician at Magadha."

How can you tell it's fake?

The city is in Pakistan. The area where the students live was in the North-Eastern regions of India. The distance for students to visit their school is 1658 km. Click -> here.

So you know it's a fake.
So the coomers belonging to that thervada buddha cult have filed this retarded lawsuit. As a Sri Lankan you must be extremly careful when you lecture us about schools of Buddha.

Thervada school itself was formed by a monk whom Ashoka's son Mahinda had sent to Sri Lanka in 200 bce or so.

So technically the thervada buddhism is also BHARTIYA not sri lankan let alone Buddha.
 

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few more names to be considered :

Mahapadma Nanda ( first real emperor of India)
Amoghavarsha ( IIRC, longest ruling emperor in Indian subcontinent)
Dharmapal
Devpal ( the greatest gaudeshwaras and last halcyons of Boudh-dharma in the subcontinent)
Pukalesi the second
Krishna the second
Dhruva Dharavarsha
Tailapa
vikramaditya the third
Shishunaga
Gautamiputra Shatakarni
 

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few more names to be considered :

Mahapadma Nanda ( first real emperor of India)
Amoghavarsha ( IIRC, longest ruling emperor in Indian subcontinent)
Dharmapal
Devpal ( the greatest gaudeshwaras and last halcyons of Boudh-dharma in the subcontinent)
Pukalesi the second
Krishna the second
Dhruva Dharavarsha
Tailapa
vikramaditya the third
Shishunaga
Gautamiputra Shatakarni
Govinda III, the son of Dhruva Dharavarsha and father of Amoghavarsha, both of who are in your list was probably the most successful military warrior in Indian history and pretty much everyone in India and even the king of Sri Lanka accepted him as the militarily unmatched and unrivalled emperor in India. Not that his father was any less but Govinda III was indeed a worthy son. Another Rashtrakuta King who was as much or even more dominant militarily in all of India was Indra III. Krishna III, the last great king of the Rashtrakutas was another militarily unmatched ruler though he probably undid all the great work by giving away lands to his Generals which resulted in the eventual collapse of the empire but after he was gone.

The Rashtrakutas feats were extraordinary when you realise that India had too other great empires/dynasties in that period, the Palas and the Gurjara Pratihara. While the Palas and Pratiharas trades victories and losses, the Rashtrakutas almost always prevailed against both when they surged upwards. Not much is unfortunately remembered of them excepting when one talks of the great temple of Ellora. What we know of Indian history and who we are told of, as Vikram Sampath said, is pathetic.
 
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Govinda III, the son of Dhruva Dharavarsha and father of Amoghavarsha, both of who are in your list was probably the most successful military warrior in Indian history and pretty much everyone in India and even the king of Sri Lanka accepted him as the militarily unmatched and unrivalled emperor in India. Not that his father was any less but Govinda III was indeed a worthy son. Another Rashtrakuta King who was as much or even more dominant militarily in all of India was Indra III. Krishna III, the last great king of the Rashtrakutas was another militarily unmatched ruler though he probably undid all the great work by giving away lands to his Generals which resulted in the eventual collapse of the empire but after he was gone.

The Rashtrakutas feats were extraordinary when you realise that India had too other great empires/dynasties in that period, the Palas and the Gurjara Pratihara. While the Palas and Pratiharas trades victories and losses, the Rashtrakutas almost always prevailed against both when they surged upwards. Not much is unfortunately remembered of them excepting when one talks of the great temple of Ellora. What we know of Indian history and who we are told of, as Vikram Sampath said, is pathetic.
You have no idea, how 'dhonno' i feel reading this - that Indians of the younger generation ( i assume you are U-30) know of Govinda III or Dhruva Dharavarsha. It took people of my generation a lot of personal effort and study to go past the whole 'here is ashoka, here is chandragupta vikraditya, then nothing till Pritiviraj, then nothing till Sher Shah and Mughals' indoctrination.

My favourite Rashtrakuta king is Amoghavarsha, for it is he who really consolidated Rashtrakuta power, was a famous poet himself and too often, we worship kings and emperors who have great battlefield victories but ignore the ones who do the less glamorous but far more important aspect of nation + culture building. Amoghavarsha is a prime example of that.
 

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I voted for Samudra Gupta. His campaign against Huns (Tatars) was badass. At that time, Huns were causing havoc in Middle East and Europe. They tried to attack India too but Samudra Gupta chased them away. He continued to chase them and punish them. Samudra Gupta instilled so much terror in Huns that they never turned towards India ever again. India needs some of that spirit back badly.

I think Bollywood should make a movie on him. It will be an action packed movie for sure.
will be also nice with accurate armor,our medieval armor is prettt unique with their choices of weapon as well
 

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The most important aspect of a Just ruler is protection of his subjects and upholding their dignity, territorial expanse can come later
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Aptly named Dharma Raja Rama Varma for his compassionate rule, upholding the ethics of Sanatan Dharm
 
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I voted for Samudra Gupta. His campaign against Huns (Tatars) was badass. At that time, Huns were causing havoc in Middle East and Europe. They tried to attack India too but Samudra Gupta chased them away. He continued to chase them and punish them. Samudra Gupta instilled so much terror in Huns that they never turned towards India ever again. India needs some of that spirit back badly.

I think Bollywood should make a movie on him. It will be an action packed movie for sure.
Huns ? Skandagupta?
 

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The most important aspect of a Just ruler is protection of his subjects and upholding their dignity, territorial expanse can come later
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Aptly named Dharma Raja Marthanda Varma for his compassionate rule, upholding the ethics of Sanatan Dharm
By any of the qualities cited by you, the greatest Emperor in Indian history would be Amoghavarsha (as mentioned by @GaudaNaresh ). A great scholar and poet himself, authoring many Sanskrit and Kannada works, his Kingdom was filled with great scholars of Sanskrit and Kannada including the great mathematician Mahaviracharya, the Jain scholar and mathematician Veerasena and the great Jain scholar Jinasena whose famous words on creation and God have often been quoted by many including Carl Sagan. Amoghavarsha’s devotion to his subjects was well known including him offering his finger to the Gods when his people were facing famine. A reign of 64 years that was largely peaceful and filled with cultural and scholastic achievements before finally giving up the throne.
 

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Why the Fuck is The Whorespawn named Tipu on the voting list
:rage: :rage: :rage: :rage: :rage:
Akbarfag is still acceptable

but Tipu? Great?
you've got to be fucking kidding me

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One of the very weak defenses of Tipu Sultan's atrocities involving massacres, forced conversions, and destruction of temples and churches, is that "he was a product of his time". How do these people explain the the total absence of this behaviour in the 4th century( that is, 1400 years before Tipu Sultan) under Chandragupta VIkramaditya, and other Gupta rulers before and after him? One would expect then, that rulers from that ancient period would be at least as barbaric, as a ruler in the late 18th century. The fact that they weren't, by a very huge margin, shows that India regressed over the centuries, thanks to characters like Tipu Sultan( and Mahmud, Babur, Aurangazeb, Sikandar and many more.
 

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My favourite Rashtrakuta king is Amoghavarsha, for it is he who really consolidated Rashtrakuta power, was a famous poet himself and too often, we worship kings and emperors who have great battlefield victories but ignore the ones who do the less glamorous but far more important aspect of nation + culture building. Amoghavarsha is a prime example of that.
True that but also fair to say that both Amoghavarsha and much earlier, Asoka benefitted by coming after great conquerors who laid the foundation for the time of peace and prosperity. While the latter need not necessarily follow the former, the former was necessary to create space for the latter .
 

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True that but also fair to say that both Amoghavarsha and much earlier, Asoka benefitted by coming after great conquerors who laid the foundation for the time of peace and prosperity. While the latter need not necessarily follow the former, the former was necessary to create space for the latter .
Agreed. Ashoka is not a big favourite of mine, because he failed the biggest test of a good administrator - securing succession. Ultimately, its Ashoka's failure to secure succession that started the downward spiral of the Maurya dynasty and ultimately, the Magadh empire.
 

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Ya, the wrong Gupta ruler was mentioned in the post I was referring to.
Skandagupta fought the Huns- it was the Xionite huns he fought and crushed in the northern frontier, though the records mention the war to be never-ending and devastating to the Gupta coffers - something we can see in numismatics, where Skandagupta onwards, the coins get debased in value.
 

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One of the very weak defenses of Tipu Sultan's atrocities involving massacres, forced conversions, and destruction of temples and churches, is that "he was a product of his time". How do these people explain the the total absence of this behaviour in the 4th century( that is, 1400 years before Tipu Sultan) under Chandragupta VIkramaditya, and other Gupta rulers before and after him? One would expect then, that rulers from that ancient period would be at least as barbaric, as a ruler in the late 18th century. The fact that they weren't, by a very huge margin, shows that India regressed over the centuries, thanks to characters like Tipu Sultan( and Mahmud, Babur, Aurangazeb, Sikandar and many more.
It is a weak defence but Tipu Sultan was not atypical of a powerful Muslim ruler. With the probably solitary exception of Akbar (must also mentioned the unfortunate Dara Shikoh ), most Muslim rulers were bigots, the strong ones more so.

Having said that, Tipu Sultan was a slightly more complicated man than is now fashionable to say. His bigotry towards the Kodavas, the Christians and the Malayalees was extreme, for the most part he was different towards the Hindus of his kingdom proper. He even had a completely different relationship with the Shankaracharya of Sringeri, something that seems out of character for a man of his bigotry. Maybe political reasons but he didn’t seem to care much for those sensitivities elsewhere, so not clear why he would bother with any niceties.

He certainly is of interest for a defence forum with his innovations but elsewhere, his bigotry destroys any positives.

P.S. : Tipu Sultan’s behaviour towards the Malayalees seemed also driven by his strong religious abhorrence of some traditions of the Nairs that he found repulsive. (I’m leaving it as that)
His religion and his strong adherence to it was the primary reason for his bigotry, difficult to separate religion from his actions.
 

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