The European Refugee "Crisis" and Cultural Enrichment Thread

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what are the elections she is talking about, are these elections in germany or sweden? The one she says some party went from zero to 8 million votes in 3 provinces(or states maybe).

That statement regarding 3 provinces is regarding Germany, I think.

Story behind one quick growing right wing party in Sweden,sorry I don't remember its name right now. There is one extreme right wing party to which no one use to pay much attention. That right wing party took stand against immigration and proposed many radical ideas to keep immigration in check.Initially those ideas were condemned upon by all other political parties. But with time all the parties have been coming up in unison along with those same ideas. Hence giving strength to that Right wing party ideology and presence.
 

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I don't know man.
At least in Russia and the US I don't think Islam can do much.
But yeah, the later product has more shelf life.
The Chechnya thing is a big problem in Russia. Putin keeps bombing it but it doesn't go away because their population is too big to wish away. So Russia had to build a large mosque to appease them. It was attended by, none other than Putin. No matter how tough he talks about asking them to go to the deserts, even he cannot ignore the numerical problem.




"Wo dekh sone ki chidiya.."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Russia

is the second most widely professed religion in Russia. Islam is considered as one of Russia’s traditional religions, legally a part of Russian historical heritage.[3] According to a poll by the Russian Public Opinion Research Center from June 2007, 6% of respondents considered themselves Muslims.[4]Also, according to the Arena Atlas, the survey found that 6.5% or 9,400,000 were Muslims.[5] Another survey by the Pew Research Center, in May 2017, found that 10% of Russia's population is Muslim.[6] According to a news article of Russia Today, Muslim minorities make up approximately 15% of the total population of Russia.
15% of Russian population is Muslim. So it's a problem similar to India in scale. The Muslims in Russia maintain their own subculture, they resolve disputes based on the 'village elder' model, they have their own thing going.

Cancer is cancer. No country is immune to it. US knows it too but thinks that it is better equipped to deal with it so it promotes Islamism in other countries which are not prepared. It is largely true in case of the US that they do have a more robust system, so it is up to individual intel agencies from foreign countries to take personal interest in adding a catalyst to the Muslim issue in the US.
 

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The Chechnya thing is a big problem in Russia. Putin keeps bombing it but it doesn't go away because their population is too big to wish away. So Russia had to build a large mosque to appease them. It was attended by, none other than Putin. No matter how tough he talks about asking them to go to the deserts, even he cannot ignore the numerical problem.




"Wo dekh sone ki chidiya.."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Russia



15% of Russian population is Muslim. So it's a problem similar to India in scale. The Muslims in Russia maintain their own subculture, they resolve disputes based on the 'village elder' model, they have their own thing going.

Cancer is cancer. No country is immune to it. US knows it too but thinks that it is better equipped to deal with it so it promotes Islamism in other countries which are not prepared. It is largely true in case of the US that they do have a more robust system, so it is up to individual intel agencies from foreign countries to take personal interest in adding a catalyst to the Muslim issue in the US.
Hey look who's with Puchin, Erdogoon :aww:

Yes, you are right. The muslims in Russia have their own subculture in the North Caucasus esp. in areas like Chechnia, Ingushetia and Dagestan which are 90-100% muslim. Otoh Tatars, & bashkirs have mostly been tamed by the ruski.

And yup, they have the peaceful problem too, but it ain't as bad as India, I think.
Also regarding the %, it is more like 7% muslims native to russia. The 15% figure comes up when temporary workers & illegals from Central Asia are included. Majority of 'em return back, come back to russia etc (nomadic like their ancestors) but there are plenty of illegal immigrants too.

Additionally, the mosk, yeah it maybe the largest in Europe but don't forget that in moscow (metro pop: ~13M; Urban sprawl: ~16-18M) which has almost a 1 million muslims (this includes temporary workers, illegals etc) there are, if I remember right, just 4 mosks :pft:
The city authorities don't sanction construction of new mosks. :) At least that's what I heard from some friends.
 
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The Chechnya thing is a big problem in Russia. Putin keeps bombing it but it doesn't go away because their population is too big to wish away. So Russia had to build a large mosque to appease them. It was attended by, none other than Putin. No matter how tough he talks about asking them to go to the deserts, even he cannot ignore the numerical problem.




"Wo dekh sone ki chidiya.."
:lol:

Those are tatars btw, they don't cause much problems in russia.
No chechen in sight in this pic.
 

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Those are tatars btw, they don't cause much problems in russia.
No chechen in sight in this pic.
Yes sirjee Tartar. Russia tried to be nice to them, then the Tartars showed their true colors, then Russia showed its true colors. Muslim is as Muslim does.

Crimean Tatar Elected Body Banned in Russia

Russia Is Trying to Wipe Out Crimea’s Tatars

Tatar Sunni Muslims pose a threat to Russia's occupation of Crimea

Russian authorities 'imprisoning Crimean Tatars in psychiatric hospitals'

Russia continues to oppress Crimea's Tatars

 

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No matter how tough he talks about asking them to go to the deserts, even he cannot ignore the numerical problem.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aardakh

Aardakh also known as Operation Lentil (Russian: Чечевица, Chechevitsa; Chechen: Вайнах махкахбахарVaynax Maxkaxbaxar) was the Soviet expulsion of the whole of the Vainakh (Chechen and Ingush) populations of the North Caucasus to Central Asia during World War II. The expulsion, preceded by the 1940–1944 insurgency in Chechnya, was ordered on 23 February 1944 by NKVD chief Lavrentiy Beria after approval by Soviet PremierJoseph Stalin, as a part of Soviet forced settlement program and population transferthat affected several million members of non-Russian Soviet ethnic minorities between the 1930s and the 1950s.
The deportation encompassed their entire nations, well over 500,000 people, as well as the complete liquidation of the Chechen-Ingush Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic. Hundreds of thousands[1][2][3][4] of Chechens and Ingushes died or were killed during the round-ups and transportation, and during their early years in exile.

https://jamestown.org/program/remembering-the-1944-deportation-chechnyas-holocaust-2/

Crimian Tatar are't Russian tatar..they have own separate history with lineage of Crimean Khanate ..
Crimean Tatar from very first uncertain about Russian rule..these bodies probably made by UKR govt during their days in control of Crimean and Putin remove it now..
 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aardakh

Aardakh also known as Operation Lentil (Russian: Чечевица, Chechevitsa; Chechen: Вайнах махкахбахарVaynax Maxkaxbaxar) was the Soviet expulsion of the whole of the Vainakh (Chechen and Ingush) populations of the North Caucasus to Central Asia during World War II. The expulsion, preceded by the 1940–1944 insurgency in Chechnya, was ordered on 23 February 1944 by NKVD chief Lavrentiy Beria after approval by Soviet PremierJoseph Stalin, as a part of Soviet forced settlement program and population transferthat affected several million members of non-Russian Soviet ethnic minorities between the 1930s and the 1950s.
The deportation encompassed their entire nations, well over 500,000 people, as well as the complete liquidation of the Chechen-Ingush Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic. Hundreds of thousands[1][2][3][4] of Chechens and Ingushes died or were killed during the round-ups and transportation, and during their early years in exile.

https://jamestown.org/program/remembering-the-1944-deportation-chechnyas-holocaust-2/


Crimian Tatar are't Russian tatar..they have own separate history with lineage of Crimean Khanate ..
Crimean Tatar from very first uncertain about Russian rule..these bodies probably made by UKR govt during their days in control of Crimean and Putin remove it now..
Okay. Lots of new stuff for me. Thanks @Willy2 @Razor
 

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Crimean tatars are a bit different from the tatars & bashkirs of tatar and bashkir republics of Russia.

Now I haven't read all these links but i can bet they are from the time of Russian annexation of Crimea when the west was crying out its heart and using everything in its arsenal.

Crimea is very important to russia because it is its access to the Mediterranean.
Without Crimea ( & by extension Ukr) Russia virtually becomes landlocked (with the exception of Petrograd aka St. Petersburg.)
 

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Crimean tatars are a bit different from the tatars & bashkirs of tatar and bashkir republics of Russia.

Now I haven't read all these links but i can bet they are from the time of Russian annexation of Crimea when the west was crying out its heart and using everything in its arsenal.

Crimea is very important to russia because it is its access to the Mediterranean.
Without Crimea ( & by extension Ukr) Russia virtually becomes landlocked (with the exception of Petrograd aka St. Petersburg.)
True that. These are links from Western mouthpieces and one is from AlJazera.
 

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Germany: Muslim Biker Gang Vows to "Protect" Fellow Muslims
by Soeren Kern
July 31, 2017 at 5:00 am


https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10755/muslim-biker-gang

  • Muslim vigilantes enforcing Islamic justice have become increasingly common in Germany. The government's inability or unwillingness to stop them has led to the rise of anti-Muslim counter-vigilantes. Germany's BfV intelligence agency, in its latest annual report, warned that an escalating action-reaction cycle could result in open warfare on German streets.

  • The self-appointed "Sharia Police" urged both Muslim and non-Muslim passersby to attend mosques and to refrain from alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, gambling, music, pornography and prostitution. In November 2016, the Wuppertal District Court ruled that the Islamists did not break German law and were simply exercising their right to free speech. The ruling, which effectively legitimized Sharia law in Germany, was one of a growing number of instances in which German courts are — wittingly or unwittingly — promoting the establishment of a parallel Islamic legal system in the country.

  • "Even if we still refuse to believe it: Parts of Germany are ruled by Islamic law! Polygamy, child marriages, Sharia judges — for far too long the German rule of law has not been enforced. Many politicians dreamed of multiculturalism.... This is not a question of folklore or foreign customs and traditions. It is a question of law and order. If the rule of law fails to establish its authority and demand respect for itself, then it can immediately declare its bankruptcy." — Franz Solms-Laubach, parliamentary correspondent,Bild.
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Maulana Rockullah's Expert comment: These were the Germans who wanted to rule the world and now they are totally pussified and ruled by a REAL pussy. :rofl: :rofl:

The WW guilt is now so strong that they are years away getting ruled by Sharia. Germans are a joke now and enforcing small countries to take Muslim refugees but even small countries have said a big NO to take even a single Muslim refugee.Seems like US+Allies need to take control of Germany before they destroy EU again like in previous WW's. This Angela Habibi would destroy EU again.



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Situation in europe is fast approaching the tipping point. Heard from some european friends that soon it will be make or break time. It would be good for Indians to get out as the pedophile worshipers will be soon be legally targeted and taken out like the moors.
 

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Germany: Muslim Biker Gang Vows to "Protect" Fellow Muslims
by Soeren Kern
July 31, 2017 at 5:00 am


https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10755/muslim-biker-gang

  • Muslim vigilantes enforcing Islamic justice have become increasingly common in Germany. The government's inability or unwillingness to stop them has led to the rise of anti-Muslim counter-vigilantes. Germany's BfV intelligence agency, in its latest annual report, warned that an escalating action-reaction cycle could result in open warfare on German streets.

  • The self-appointed "Sharia Police" urged both Muslim and non-Muslim passersby to attend mosques and to refrain from alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, gambling, music, pornography and prostitution. In November 2016, the Wuppertal District Court ruled that the Islamists did not break German law and were simply exercising their right to free speech. The ruling, which effectively legitimized Sharia law in Germany, was one of a growing number of instances in which German courts are — wittingly or unwittingly — promoting the establishment of a parallel Islamic legal system in the country.

  • "Even if we still refuse to believe it: Parts of Germany are ruled by Islamic law! Polygamy, child marriages, Sharia judges — for far too long the German rule of law has not been enforced. Many politicians dreamed of multiculturalism.... This is not a question of folklore or foreign customs and traditions. It is a question of law and order. If the rule of law fails to establish its authority and demand respect for itself, then it can immediately declare its bankruptcy." — Franz Solms-Laubach, parliamentary correspondent,Bild.
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Maulana Rockullah's Expert comment: These were the Germans who wanted to rule the world and now they are totally pussified and ruled by a REAL pussy. :rofl: :rofl:

The WW guilt is now so strong that they are years away getting ruled by Sharia. Germans are a joke now and enforcing small countries to take Muslim refugees but even small countries have said a big NO to take even a single Muslim refugee.Seems like US+Allies need to take control of Germany before they destroy EU again like in previous WW's. This Angela Habibi would destroy EU again.



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Chu**ye,

First save your women.
 

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Swedish woman Raped by Syrian migrant commits Suicide after Prosecutor drops her Case

Investigative journalist and columnist Joakim Lamotte has reported a new story on his Facebook page, about a young woman, Angelica Wiktor, from Vittaryd in Småland, Sweden. Lamotte writes that he started getting messages from people who knew the woman in June, after she had written on Facebook that she had been raped in the first week of March. The people contacting him, told him that she had committed suicide, after finding out the police had closed the investigation into her rape. Lamotte decides to investigate, and comes across her last message, posted this summer:

Victims of rape! Those who do not want to know – don’t read this! He who raped me has gotten a chance here in Sweden. He lives next door to me and a friend of his was there that night. Everything happened in my own house. Late one evening the doorbell rang and I thought something happened to my neighbour, who is seriously ill with cancer, but no… I was trapped in my bedroom, where he raped me while his mate was standing in the hall. Despite reports, interrogation, forensic investigation which found bruising/damage caused by rape, gynaecological investigation proving the same, technicians finding evidence in my home, etc. I still received a phone call from the police on my 30th birthday that he was released because of lack of evidence… His friend has been haunting me since that day, looking me up online under false names, and stalking me in real life. What does the police do? – NOTHING!!

Lamotte continues: “In the reaction underneath the post, her friends write that she should rest and post hearts and tearful emojis. What exactly happened, is hard to understand, but when I leave Angelica’s profile, it’s impossible to stop thinking about her fate.

Months pass and Lamotte checks up on the profile regularly, to see if any new information has been posted. After a while, the page changes to ‘memorial status’, as Facebook usually does when somebody has passed away. At that point, Lamotte contacts Angelica’s mother, Lisa Wiktor. She tells Lamotte, that on the day Angelica posted her last message on Facebook, she chose to end her own life by taking all the hundreds of pills she had access to at once. Lamotte:


The last months had been difficult on Angelica’s parents. Lisa says that she has thought a lot about the rape and why the report has been retracted. She asks me to look into the case and tell her about her daughter. According to her mother, Angelica went through a couple of rough years with a disease of the pituary gland, eating disorders and drug abuse. After she was raped, the fact that the police dropped the investigation was, according to Lisa, the stroke that broke the camel’s back.

Lamotte says that Angelica was raped in the first week of March, almost breaking her, and that she told her parents about the rape. They help her with reporting the crime to the police, and take her to the hospital to have her wounds documented. In order to be able to judge the case, Lamotte requests to be given the police investigation report, which formed the basis for the police’s decision to drop the case. The report is more than 70 pages long. In it, is the investigation’s interrogation of Angelica. During her interrogation, Angelica claims, according to Lamotte, that:

her neighbour, Adnan, together with his friend Samir [not their real names], came to her appartement late one evening in spring. Because Angelica had taken sleeping pills, she is unsure about the exact timing, but she remembers Adnan pushing her into the bedroom, using violence to force her on her bed and holding her down and raping her. The experience is extra painful because Angelica has inserted a tampon, that is now pushed so far inside of her, that she can’t get it out normally the next day. While she is being raped, Samir is somewhere in the appartement.

Angelica tells the police that she is a lesbian and had never been with a man before. She also tells them about flashbacks of Samir having sex with her a day later, after she took sleeping pills with alcohol and diazepam. She tells the police that she would never have let it happen, had she been in her right mind.

After Angelica reported the crime, the police decided to arrest Adnan and Samir. Adnan lived across the hall from Angelica and when the police entered the apartment, they found Samir on a mattress on the floor, while Adnan locked himself in the bedroom. The police break into the bedroom and arrests Adnan, whom they have to cuff and drag from the apartment kicking and screaming.

During interrogation, Samir, who has been in Sweden since 2015, admits that Adnan and he were in Angelica’s apartment one evening. According to him, he was in the kitchen, waiting while Adnan and Angelica were in the bedroom. Samir claims he didn’t know that Adnan raped Angelica, until she told him when Adnan left the apartment. Samir also said that Angelica told him that she couldn’t fight him off, because she had taken sleeping pills and fell into a shock. Samir told the police that he confronted Adnan later, telling him that rape is a serious crime in Sweden. Samir also says that a few days later, he had sex with Angelica himself.

Adnan, a Syrian citizen, denies everything. He says he has never seen Angelica, even though they are neighbours, doesn’t know who she is and has never been in her apartment.

Police investigation shows that Angelica has serious problems at this time. She has mental health issues and mixes drugs with alcohol and sleeping pills. She is very vulnerable, a state that someone who is so inclined, could easily abuse. Lamotte concludes that Angelica’s memories are fuzzy because of these issues, which forces him to infer what happened step by step. His reasoning goes as follows:

Firstly: we know that Angelica and Samir have testified that Adnan was in Angelica’s apartment on the night of the rape. Adnan denies this, but that is probably a lie. Furthermore, Adnan has recently been convicted of attacking a man in Ljungby, which implies that he’s not someone to shy away from violence.

Secondly: we know that Samir texted Angelica, writing that Adnan told him that he threw away the condom he used during the rape in the bin.

Thirdly: we know that the Swedish National Board of Forensic Medicine (Rättsmedicinalverket) found bruises on Angelica’s body and that her injuries

are consistent with injuries inflicted by another person, at least partly through gripping (for example on the left lower arm), while other injuries (…) are more indicative of a struggle.

Fourthly: there is supporting evidence in the form of witness statements of people who have spoken to Angelica after the events. They state that Angelica told them, before the rape, that Adnan pushed himself on her, shortly after he moved to the area. And a neighbour said that he heard strange sounds coming out of Angelica’s bedroom, something he never heard before.

All this put together, makes Lamotte wonder if this is not enough for a court case:

I continue to read the preliminary investigation and I remember that Angelica, in her last Facebook post, writes that there has been a gynaecological examination that secured proof, as well as technical evidence from her home. Even from the preliminary report, it is possible to read that Angelica has been to a gynaecologist and that a sheet and a pack of condoms have been retrieved from her bedroom. However, there are no results of the examination, or results from DNA tests on the bedding, although according to the police it should contain all the documents in the case.

For Lamotte, this is a reason to ask extra questions: he decides to call the prosecutor, who was the pre-trial leader in the case. Her name is Yvonne Rudinsson. At first, she says that she doesn’t remember the case, despite being responsible for the police investigation. After a while, however, she appears to remember the case, and it turns out she knows Angelica is no longer alive. The burning question for Lamotte is:

“Why did you choose to shut down the investigation?

Rudinsson:”I thought it was impossible to prove that a crime has been committed.

Lamotte:”But it can be concluded that the suspect is lying, there is proof that Angelica is wounded. There is corroborative evidence. Isn’t it worth the trouble to try and take it to court?

Rudinsson:”It is not enough to prove that someone is lying to convict him of a crime.

Lamotte:”Angelica wrote on her Facebook page, just before she died, that there is a gynaecological examination that shows she had been raped and that technical evidence was found in her house. I can’t find the results of those examinations, nor that evidence, in the preliminary investigation. Where is that information?

Rudinsson:”I don’t know.

Lamotte:”Could it be that you have taken a decision without taking those results into account?”

Rudinsson:”I have taken my decision after consulting all the documents available to me, that’s all I can say.

That is all the information Lamotte says he could get from her, leaving most of his questions unanswered. He does conclude from the information he has, that Angelica had a tumour on her pituitary gland and therefore had to take heavy medication. Moreover, during the period she was feeling very badly, and used a combination of alcohol and sleeping pills, and must have been in a foggy state of mind. According to her claims, during this time she was abused. If that is true, the abuse took place with a person that wasn’t mentally or physically capable of refusing or resisting.

Lamotte says that according to Swedish law, it counts as rape since the victim was abused during a fragile period. If Angelica’s story is correct, both Samir and Adnan took advantage of her state during that period.

When Lamotte calls Lisa Wiktor back, she says:

It is terrible. I am Angelica’s mother, and I know her from before she was in such a bad shape. She would never lie about something like that. She had problems, but she wouldn’t lie. Why would she lie about it?

Lamotte says Angelica’s parents are convinced Angelica was subjected to what she alleges and think the case should receive redress. Lamotte doubts he is able to give it to them with the article he wrote about the case.

Then again, he knows Angelica is not the only one whose rape case fell through. Swedish police, he says, is getting worse and worse at researching sexual crimes and 13 rape cases are closed without prosecution each day.

At the same time, Lamotte continues, a wave of stories have hit us in the last few weeks in the #metoo uproar. Different famous women have come forward, telling about their experiences and suspects. The majority of women raped do not have a platform which makes sure their voices are heard. For the most people who have their cases closed, Lamotte says, are left with their anger, not daring to speak about their experiences, because it is accompanied by so many feelings of guilt and shame.

“Angelica chose to take her own life, after having the courage to step forward and tell her story.

This account is published after consultation with Angelica’s family, in the hope that someone in the Swedish judiciary reads it and decides to look at the case again, to see if there are stones that have been left unturned.

Rest in peace, Angelica.”

In the video below, the same Lamotte recorded his telephone call with police, inquiring after the rape of a 12-year-old girl. In it, the police admits that it “can no longer cope with the scale of sexual violence”. For a full transcript, see here.
Something is truly wrong with Swedish culture and justice system.
 

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Swedish woman Raped by Syrian migrant commits Suicide after Prosecutor drops her Case


Something is truly wrong with Swedish culture and justice system.
Bro,refer to my post at http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/chit-chat-thread.4046/page-1039#post-1347603

I had talked with a guy from Sweden on a random chat site and he informed me some alarming things about Swedish Police which should be considered a good police force from a supposedly developed nation.
 

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