The European Refugee "Crisis" and Cultural Enrichment Thread

pmaitra

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Europe is screwed. And I wonder how stupid a group of people has to be to accomodate trouble makers at their own cost instead of preventing them to come? I mean by doing this kind of stuff they are actually sending message that more of these migrants can come. Given the worsening economical situation, one has to be extremely stupid to accomodate skillless jobless people who as history is evident are never going to integrate with the original populace at the taxpayers money.
I, for one, rightly or wrongly, do not believe Europe is doing this out of charity. I just believe that one day we will know why they did whatever they are doing now. One must not forget how Tamerlan and Dzhokar Tsarnayev brothers were invited to the US as refugees and their subsistence and education paid for by the US taxpayer. Behind every action, I seek a selfish motive, because there has to be one. It is impossible that people who are in decision making positions are stupid. No they are not.
 

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Actually Muslims is one secret of Nordic success, a lot of trade was done in Constantinnopol back in the Viking times....business is business
Oh, cut the crap :doh:

Business with Muslims is one thing however, if you invite them to your house, they will gradually rape your women for pleasure, cut your balls and use your @$$ for pleasure as well!
 

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I, for one, rightly or wrongly, do not believe Europe is doing this out of charity. I just believe that one day we will know why they did whatever they are doing now. One must not forget how Tamerlan and Dzhokar Tsarnayev brothers were invited to the US as refugees and their subsistence and education paid for by the US taxpayer. Behind every action, I seek a selfish motive, because there has to be one. It is impossible that people who are in decision making positions are stupid. No they are not.
Actually, they are not stupid in the sense they understand their own loss and gain and can manage their own interest, while bargaining away common men's interest for greater gain. However, your argument that the people in power aren't stupid doesn't hold true with historical precedence. If the govt. of England and France were a sharp bunch, they could have prevented WWII. Greece and Italy and bunch of other European nations wouldn't have been in the current economical soup or USA wouldn't have started the global economical meltdown, had the people in decision making position were smart enough to put people's interest in their mind than playing the big game or lining their own pockets. The immigration game may be played for bigger picture, but that doesn't mean the end result is going to benefit Europe. The people in power who are the decision makers are not going to be affected, but the common people are. Just see what's happening in Sweden where attacks on women by the immigrants have been ignored by the Govt. and media - the people in power, just to keep their secular image clean.

The people in decision making position may be smart enough to climb their way up to the position, but that doesn't essentially mean that they are smart as they are essentially demagogues with narrow vision elected by general dumbed down populace who also cannot see the larger picture. This has been true for almost all the democracies worldwide, as people with gift of gab can sway common people towards them. The elected persons after all aren't called for their acts till the next election anyway, by then generally years have passed and damages have settled in. Also, if you see into those people, the collective coterie of the people in power irrespective of parties seem to have the same colour only in different shades. Hence, changing a party doesn't mean that the policies are changed, too.

In brief, the people in decision making position may be individually smart, but their lack of vision beyond their personal interest means, the decision made for people is not necessarily a smart one.
 

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Actually, they are not stupid in the sense they understand their own loss and gain and can manage their own interest, while bargaining away common men's interest for greater gain. However, your argument that the people in power aren't stupid doesn't hold true with historical precedence. If the govt. of England and France were a sharp bunch, they could have prevented WWII. Greece and Italy and bunch of other European nations wouldn't have been in the current economical soup or USA wouldn't have started the global economical meltdown, had the people in decision making position were smart enough to put people's interest in their mind than playing the big game or lining their own pockets. The immigration game may be played for bigger picture, but that doesn't mean the end result is going to benefit Europe. The people in power who are the decision makers are not going to be affected, but the common people are. Just see what's happening in Sweden where attacks on women by the immigrants have been ignored by the Govt. and media - the people in power, just to keep their secular image clean.

The people in decision making position may be smart enough to climb their way up to the position, but that doesn't essentially mean that they are smart as they are essentially demagogues with narrow vision elected by general dumbed down populace who also cannot see the larger picture. This has been true for almost all the democracies worldwide, as people with gift of gab can sway common people towards them. The elected persons after all aren't called for their acts till the next election anyway, by then generally years have passed and damages have settled in. Also, if you see into those people, the collective coterie of the people in power irrespective of parties seem to have the same colour only in different shades. Hence, changing a party doesn't mean that the policies are changed, too.

In brief, the people in decision making position may be individually smart, but their lack of vision beyond their personal interest means, the decision made for people is not necessarily a smart one.
Well written post.

If I may, I'd rephrase the last and emboldened part to read, "In brief, the people in decision making position may be individually smart, but their lack of vision beyond their personal interest means, the decision made on behalf of the people is not necessarily a smart one."
 

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To end the discussion for now: I have no problems with muslims, my country have no problems with muslims. I am sorry that I cannot help you more. Good night.
Sure, Finland is a heaven for them. :biggrin2:
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http://yle.fi/uutiset/cnn_finland_tops_list_of_countries_with_muslim_fighters_in_syria/7446816

CNN: Finland tops list of countries with Muslim fighters in Syria

The US news channel CNN has estimated that Finland leads the field in terms of countries with Muslims fighting in Syria. The channel compared numbers provided by 25 different countries to rank Finland as the country with the highest percentage of Muslims who have gone to Syria to fight. The head of Finnish security police Supo says the numbers are about right although not entirely accurate.

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http://yle.fi/uutiset/opinion_high_time_for_self-scrutiny_in_finlands_muslim_community/7467618

Opinion: High time for self-scrutiny in Finland's Muslim community

It can’t be that Muslim youth are constantly being recruited to fight in wars overseas without the community itself knowing about it, writes journalist Wali Hashi. In an op-ed piece written for Yle, Hashi put the proverbial cat among the pigeons and called on the Muslim community in Finland to examine itself as young people seek careers in foreign conflict. Yle News has reproduced excerpts of that piece.
 

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Finnish Muslims are sought after, because they have excellent military training from Finnish army. The pay is very good. Nothing new really, Finns were serving in elite guards of Byzantine empire also.



Immigrants from Sweden, Denmark, Norway and Iceland kept a predominantly Norse cast to the organization until the late 11th century. In these years, Scandinavian men left to enlist in the Byzantine Varangian Guard in such numbers that a medieval Swedish law from Västergötland declared no one could inherit while staying in Greece—the then Scandinavian term for theByzantine Empire—to stymie the emigration.[5] Especially as two other European courts simultaneously also recruited Scandinavians:[6]Kievan Rus' c. 980–1060 and London 1018–1066 (theÞingalið).[6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varangian_Guard
 
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Finnish Muslims are sought after, because they have excellent military training from Finnish army. The pay is very good. Nothing new really, Finns were serving in elite guards of Byzantine empire also.
This guy is certifiable crazy! He is even proud of the Finnish people fighting for ISIS and massacring innocent people in hideous ways, just because they are from Finland. I wonder if he is indeed an exception in Finland or a rule.
 

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This guy is certifiable crazy! He is even proud of the Finnish people fighting for ISIS and massacring innocent people in hideous ways, just because they are from Finland. I wonder if he is indeed an exception in Finland or a rule.
Of course I do not support what ISIS does. But that does not change the fact that if they need professionals for the job, they need Finns. That is the testament for our military training which, even if conscript based can compete with the best.
 

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Of course I do not support what ISIS does. But that does not change the fact that if they need professionals for the job, they need Finns. That is the testament for our military training which, even if conscript based can compete with the best.
Good to know that Finns seek validation of their military prowess based on the terrorist groups they join.

Based on same logic, pretty sure that you would now claim Finnish women as the best because they are fucked by IS recruits and passed around as slaves.

Testament to your women and your military!
 

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Of course I do not support what ISIS does. But that does not change the fact that if they need professionals for the job, they need Finns. That is the testament for our military training which, even if conscript based can compete with the best.
they need finland army and paki army.
 

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Good to know that Finns seek validation of their military prowess based on the terrorist groups they join.

Based on same logic, pretty sure that you would now claim Finnish women as the best because they are fucked by IS recruits and passed around as slaves.

Testament to your women and your military!
Of course our beautiful blonde woman attract all kinds of attention, also wrong one. That is a sad truth. Many beautiful Finnish blonde woman has married to rich Muslim men. Like the owner of Harrods and the father of the last boyfriend of princess Diana.

 

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Just to make it clear, if I talk about Finns, it also means black, white, yellow, brown, Muslim, Hindu whatever...if you live in Finland, go to Finnish schools, army and work here, you are a Finn.
 

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Slovakia refuses to accept Muslim migrants


Migrants, thought to be from Syria, are packed into a rented vehicle from Austria at the Cunovo border crossing, Slovakia.

Country will refuse entry to Muslims among quota of 200 migrants, on grounds that country has "no mosques", as German mayor threatens to seize private homes to house asylum seekers.


Slovakia has said it will not accept any Muslims under an EU scheme to share migrants more evenly between member states. “We want to help Europe with the migration issue. We could take 800 Muslims but we don't have any mosques in Slovakia so how can Muslims be integrated if they are not going to like it here?” Ivan Metik, an interior ministry spokesman, said.

Slovakia is to host 200 migrants under an EU plan to redistribute 40,000 away from Italy and Greece, which are overwhelmed with the numbers arriving across the Mediterranean.The Slovakian government said it plans to ask the migrants their religion on arrival.

The European Commission expressed its displeasure at the Slovakian plans. “We act here in the spirit of the treaty, which prevents any form of discrimination,” Annika Breidthardt, a spokesman, said.While it is legal to prioritise Christians who are at extra risk of persecution because of their religion, turning away Muslims because there are no mosques would be discriminatory and of dubious legality, according to one EU source.

The number of migrants registered at the EU’s borders more than tripled in July to 107,500 compared to the same month last year, according to figures released by Frontex, the EU agency.It passed the record 100,000 in a single month for the first time since the EU's border control agency began keeping records in 2008.The row came as a mayor in Germany threatened to use emergency powers to seize empty private homes in order to house asylum-seekers.

Boris Palmer, the Green Party mayor of Tübingen, told Welt newspaper the town was struggling to find accommodation for migrants.“The Police Law has clear rules. If there is a threat of homelessness in a city, vacant houses can be seized for accommodation,” Mr Palmer said.

“And this emergency can happen when shelters are overcrowded and on some days 50 refugees are still arriving at a time, as they are now in Tübingen.”Mr Palmer said he was currently in talks with landlords over renting or buying empty properties from them, but that if the talks failed he would have no choice but to seize the buildings.

Germany takes in by far the most migrants of any EU member state. The government this week raised its forecast of the number it expects to host in 2015 to at least 650,000, and possibly as many as 750,000.

Several German states have asked former civil servants to come out of retirement to help process the massive backlog of asylum cases.More than 300 have reported back for work in North Rhine-Westphalia, and 120 in Hesse.Lower Saxony has even asked retired police officers to return to duty to help cope with the crisis.In Austria, the interior ministry has published an open letter calling on citizens to help find accommodation for migrants.

“In finding accommodation for refugees, the federal state is at the limit of its capability and we therefore need the help of each and every individual,” the letter, signed by “the employees of the interior ministry”, read.The Austrian government is facing protests over a proposed new law that will give it the power to force towns and communities to take in asylum seekers against their will.

The country is threatening a lawsuit over EU regulations that asylum seekers must stay in the first country where they register, saying it is being forced to take in more than its share.
Austria expects to host 80,000 asylum seekers this year – twice as many as originally expected.

“Now is not the time to take each other to court. Now is the time to show solidarity,” Ms Breidthardt, the European Commission spokesman, said.

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Now, like Japan, Slovakia would be free of terrorism for eternity.
 

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To end the discussion for now: I have no problems with muslims, my country have no problems with muslims. I am sorry that I cannot help you more. Good night.
If we consider you represent Finland then it's a sorry state of Finland.You cant even learn from your big brother UK. Never seen such shamelessness from a Westerner.

Wait for future when you would see more gangrapes/mutilation/killings of your blonde blue eyed women and men like you in DENIAL mode and doing party with Pakis. More Sharia Zones(Luton in UK) and situation out of control. Overpopulated and pushed around by Muslim immigrants(who refuse to assimilate anywhere) you would forget what Finland was.The biggest loser would be Finnish women who had to wear burqa and become a pet of Muslim.

Vikings gone impotent. :lol: :truestory:

Just to make it clear, if I talk about Finns, it also means black, white, yellow, brown, Muslim, Hindu whatever...if you live in Finland, go to Finnish schools, army and work here, you are a Finn.
Ask a Muslim in your Finland if he is a Muslim first or Finn. :rofl:

You represent just a foolish man in a lala land who refuse to learn history.It's been while you have seen peace but it won't be.Seems like you forgot the riots done by your lovely Muslims in North Europe not long ago.

Why is it that no rich middle eastern Islamic countries ever accept asylum seeking Muslims or palestinians?
Europe loses twice firstly by going to war with these nations than accepting the refugees. Smart Europeans.
They are not soo FOOLISH like Europeans.

First the birth rate of Europeans dropped and single unmarried women who refuse to marry.Now the immigrants are going to overpopulate like RATS and push them around and it's just a matter of time or simply time bomb the foolish Europeans have clicked on themselves. :lol:
 
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Of course our beautiful blonde woman attract all kinds of attention, also wrong one. That is a sad truth. Many beautiful Finnish blonde woman has married to rich Muslim men. Like the owner of Harrods and the father of the last boyfriend of princess Diana.

World knows that Diana was a Royal Whore who slept from Butler to Wealthy men.She might have lost the count of men she slept with. :lol:
 

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This guy is certifiable crazy! He is even proud of the Finnish people fighting for ISIS and massacring innocent people in hideous ways, just because they are from Finland. I wonder if he is indeed an exception in Finland or a rule.
He seems a complete but and psycho who has no problem to see his women getting gangraped/mutilated etc etc and goes on to justify the rapists who are all Muslims. :shocked:

Finland is doomed with people like him and he says he represent Finland.
 

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One country has shown some color.

Can't imagine how Germany can be soooooo stupid to allow so many of them which would change the demographics of their Aryan race.

Germans used to be the strongest, biggest and smartest guy in EU but now just a pushover. :lol:

They would get Sharia Zones in their White Germany like UK.



So I was checking my daily dose of phoren news channels like BBC/CNN/Al-Jazeera/DW et al and saw this issue being discussed in all channels in many ways(pics/videos/interviews etc) and the hottest topic now.

The most important discussion was going on DW the German channel.They had a 30 min discussion panel of 4 White Experts to discuss it and below were few points I could remember sum up...
  1. Immigration Chaos and riots happening as all Asylums heading to Europe.
  2. Some EU countries either refusing or not taking "enough" aslyums.
  3. Germany can only allow 4 Lakh asylums instead of 8 Lakh this year.Next year it can only increase. Germany already biggest taker.
  4. How would Germany pay for them as the money would be sucked up by finance/infra channels (various services provided to Germans) dedicated to Germans.
  5. Already lot of Financial problems due to Greece crisis.
  6. Germans not liking such large scale asylums and only 25% agree to take asylums.
  7. German birth rate going down and some areas might have majority asylums.
  8. Serious Assimilation issues without naming Islam.Many ghettos already sprung up like mushrooms in Germany and crime rate increasing.
  9. Fences growing up on record number and good time to invest in this business. :lol:

Last and very important point which made me laugh was below...

10.No skilled immigrants coming up like IT Techies.They almost complained that they are not getting enough techies from India which they would like to for their High Tech Business and R&D.Since Germans are pioneer in such stuff it's a alarming thing.


Now their f%$$@**** Neo-Nazis are attacking Indians in Germany and not those jahil asylums so Germans are stupid.Why would Indians go to such place? There are more opportunities here now.

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So I was checking my daily dose of phoren news channels like BBC/CNN/Al-Jazeera/DW et al and saw this issue being discussed in all channels in many ways(pics/videos/interviews etc) and the hottest topic now.

The most important discussion was going on DW the German channel.They had a 30 min discussion panel of 4 White Experts to discuss it and below were few points I could remember sum up...
  1. Immigration Chaos and riots happening as all Asylums heading to Europe.
  2. Some EU countries either refusing or not taking "enough" aslyums.
  3. Germany can only allow 4 Lakh asylums instead of 8 Lakh this year.Next year it can only increase. Germany already biggest taker.
  4. How would Germany pay for them as the money would be sucked up by finance/infra channels (various services provided to Germans) dedicated to Germans.
  5. Already lot of Financial problems due to Greece crisis.
  6. Germans not liking such large scale asylums and only 25% agree to take asylums.
  7. German birth rate going down and some areas might have majority asylums.
  8. Serious Assimilation issues without naming Islam.Many ghettos already sprung up like mushrooms in Germany and crime rate increasing.
  9. Fences growing up on record number and good time to invest in this business. :lol:

Last and very important point which made me laugh was below...

10.No skilled immigrants coming up like IT Techies.They almost complained that they are not getting enough techies from India which they would like to for their High Tech Business and R&D.Since Germans are pioneer in such stuff it's a alarming thing.


Now their f%$$@**** Neo-Nazis are attacking Indians in Germany and not those jahil asylums so Germans are stupid.Why would Indians go to such place? There are more opportunities here now.

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@Razor @brational @Bangalorean @Mad Indian @cobra commando @hit&run @maomao @TrueSpirit2
@ersakthivel @OneGrimPilgrim @Vishwarupa @Srinivas_K @maomao @VIP @pmaitra @Screambowl @LETHALFORCE

@roma @jouni
Was it called Quadriga....they usually have a sane discussion..... for a western channel
 

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Was it called Quadriga....they usually have a sane discussion..... for a western channel
Right, it was Quadriga.

They were trying their best to be extremely diplomatic but saying things in signs.

Germans/Neo Nazis have their priorities wrong and they would suffer sooner or later.

All hail stupid Europeans and their love for Asylums. :rofl:
 

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