- Nov 14, 2021
How else do you explain an hybrid radar detecting a Geometrically angled , carefully designed aircraft designed to evade enemy air defences and that too at a distance of 250km ? Even regular jets with a decent RCS don't get detected at that range , but if a fighter jet is flying with a lunberg lens then it's pretty much possible friend.This is the last time I am telling you that it was carrying Lundberg lense is your wishfull thinking and nothing else.
How else do you explain an hybrid radar detecting a Geometrically angled , carefully designed aircraft designed to evade enemy air defences and that too at a distance of 250km ? Even regular jets with a decent RCS don't get detected at that range , but if a fighter jet is flying with a lunberg lens then it's pretty much possible friend.
I was Googling through photos of J-20 on "OPEN SOURCE" and let me tell you, more than 95-98 percent of Every picture that I scrolled through of J-20 is distinctly showing the presence of a Radar reflector on the under-belly of J-20.first time I am hearing such a thesis . Kindly elaborate sir
Exactly broI was Googling through photos of J-20 on "OPEN SOURCE" and let me tell you, more than 95-98 percent of Every picture that I scrolled through of J-20 is distinctly showing the presence of a Radar reflector on the under-belly of J-20.
I will share few pictures of J-20.View attachment 156798View attachment 156799View attachment 156800View attachment 156801View attachment 156802View attachment 156803
Have you noticed one thing? In all these photos, you can clearly see the presence of a "RADAR REFLECTOR"! Also I had seen pics of J-20 present in it's hangars having a Radar reflector well.
Chinese will do the best to mask the True RCS of the J-20. We don't know what is the true RCS of J-20, so we should stop underestimating it.Exactly bro
During non war times many stealth fighters use radar reflectors during flying
That doesn't mean j-20 is bad
J-20 is made by chinese who have mastered manufacturing along with quality especially nowadays
It's a fifth gen aircraft it's league ahead of su-30mki and atleast better stealth than rafales and also it has 5th gen avionics
Even after super sukhoi j-20 will be ahead in terms of performance surprise and majorly numbers
Point is they are ahead of us in terms of avionics, manufacturing, strategy making, wrt fighter aircraftsChinese will do the best to mask the True RCS of the J-20. We don't know what is the true RCS of J-20, so we should stop underestimating it.
We should work on Anti-Stealth Technology and our own Indigenous 5th generation program AMCA, people can Claim anything about the J-20 by saying it is Junk or can be easily tracked by a hybrid PESA/AESA Radar from the 1990s at a distance of 400 kms etc away but that won't change the fact that the Chinese are way ahead of India in all ways. They have better Defence industry than us as well. Ours is no match to them.
China is very wise to equip J-20s with Radar reflectors even when they are in Chinese Airspace itself, because you never know if a civilian Aircraft is flying around and might leak J-20's RCS. (Was quoted by @no smoking too)
We should stop underestimating Chinese, we should always prepare for the worst which is in our best interest.
Yes agreed that they are ahead of us, but also keep in mind that the platforms that China has developed in terms of Aircrafts (especially fighter planes) are mostly licenced copies of Russian/Soviet Designs.Point is they are ahead of us in terms of avionics, manufacturing, strategy making, wrt fighter aircrafts
But my doubt is will we be able to make amca by the timeline given by Ada and hal
Bcoz it took so many years for a country like China to make a 5th gen aircraft although during that time also they had very good fighter jets building capability that too heavy and medium category
But for a country like us
Further writing will lead to scolding
In an excercise withIndia- US airforce in 2005, US airforce was highly impressed eith Mig 21. What their officials said was that it was very hard to detect because of its small size though it is not designed to stealth. Tejas uses very high degree of composite, designed with stealth in mind, uses Y duct to conceal engine.This makes Tejas stealthier.How can you assume that Tejas MK-1A will have a lower RCS than J-20? This is not possible because 1st of all ,J-20 was designed by China as a full fledged Stealth fighter whereas Tejas on the other hand was not designed as full fledged but does have some RCS reduction features in it (small size, Use of lot of Composites).
And by the way just because in size J-20 is bigger than Tejas MK-1A in size, that does not mean it will have lower RCS as compared to J-20, because by that Logic F-22 ,SU-57 has more RCS as they are larger.
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I will end by saying : "Maybe this J-20 is not as good as portrayed by CCP but we cannot Underestimate this Jet!"
US and Indian Airforce joint excercise in 2005? you must be referring to Cope India exercises. 1st of all MiG-21 is not a Stealth design, you and I both know this. It Definitely has a lower RCS though as compared to full fledged metal body jets like SU-30 MKI/JF-17/MiG-29 but that here is mostly due to its smaller size as compared to these larger body planes. None of these planes are designed with keeping stealth in mind, neither they use composites or RAM.In an excercise withIndia- US airforce in 2005, US airforce was highly impressed eith Mig 21. What their officials said was that it was very hard to detect because of its small size though it is not designed to stealth. Tejas uses very high degree of composite, designed with stealth in mind, uses Y duct to conceal engine.This makes Tejas stealthier.
F-22 may not be the most Manouverable plane in the world but it is definitely the most Manouverable plane in USAF Inventory.Do far as F22 is concern, a mamoth effort has gone into designing it. Lots of aerodynamic is compromised. To compensate that, Highly powerful engines are placed into it.
Le me after hearing this :-Yet, it is not made stealth by design. To overcome that, a state of art RAM paint was developed. Paint is higly sophisticated but gets damage in few flight which requires a very thick layer of painting after few flight. China has none this. Moreover, it has canards. Canards never lets plane to be stealth. I take every Chinese claim with a pinch of salt.
I have never heard of any such incident, and I doubt what you are saying here, unless you show me sources to back this claim of yours with regards thatChina made a copy of BMW car znd claimed that they made it in a cost less than half of BMW. However, in crash test, it scored 0/5 in safety rating. This explains the gap between Chinese quality and claim.
Claiming to detect and track a Stealth aircraft at ranges like 200-300 kms is not a new thing, IAF has Claimed in the past to detect J-20 and China has also Claimed to detect American F-22/F-35s.IAF is not lying , but if a J20 was detected at 250km or 300km range then It is 100% possible that it was flying with lunberg lens.
Here's another fun fact: IAF will never have the huge number of enemies PLAAF has to contend with. So rest assured, the numbers are on our side.Let's face the facts : IAF will never be able to match PLAAF in terms of numerical Superiority, but what we can do is invest our R&D more in making more better missiles, radars and also our own stealth fighters.
2 axis TVC not 1 axis.This is because F-22 uses 2 Pratt and Whitney F-119 Engines and that too with thrust vectoring control Capability, it has TVC in 1 axis and it allows F-22 be more Manouverable and have a Higher turn rate as compared to non thrust vectoring engine Jets like F-15, F-35, F-16.
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