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Flying Dagger

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I don’t see anybody as our friends, let alone the Pakistanis. It’s why I have no use for anyone peddling Akhand Bharat rubbish and why I think Jinnah should be as much our hero for creating Pakistan (violence following the partition being very regrettable even if inevitable). I’m merely looking at any action by the Pakistanis in terms of whether or not it is useful for us. Any fight internally in Pakistan which pits militant groups against the state is good for us with a preferred outcome of a state win. I’m very clear about that. If the Pakistani state is fighting radical religious militant groups, the preferred long term outcome is the upper hand of the state. Pakistan isn’t Ike Syria or Libya or indeed Afghanistan where we have some luxury of distance. What happens there will have some interest to us.

Secondly, the attack on primarily Punjab based religious groups will put the Pakistani state in some disarray and will force its hand, one way or the other. Popcorn time for us now but fingers crossed.
In case the state falls into a situation that they are unable to manage the jihadis on the street.

That will be more beneficial as it will result in USA trying to take control of porky nukes.. and may destroy a big stable of their weapons , missiles etc too.

For that to happen we need to see a mass scale violence killing thousands and thousands of Pakistanis as a begining.
 
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In case the state falls into a situation where there are unable to manage the jihadis on the street.

That will be more beneficial as it will result in USA trying to take control of porky nukes.. and may destroy a big stable of their weapons , missiles etc too.

For that to happen we need to see a mass scale violence killing thousands and thousands of Pakistanis as a begining.
The reality isn't important, the perception is, why do you think they have banned reporting on this domestically and got their foreign Media friends to not report at all?
 

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Things aren't that simple. Most of times while there were chaos or terror attacks in India, Pakistan was in a relatively stronger economic and diplomatic position than today to do that. Everytime they go into deep chaos, terror attacks stop in India.

It is true that an Iraq and Syria style situation in Pak will hurt India. But, it doesn't imply that Pak having a booming economy like Bangladesh will bear any fruits. Pakistan is a fundamentalist state created on lines of communalism and it is fundamentalist.

It's existence means conflict.

No test = No corona applies for poor countries. Countries like US, Brazi and India are having millions of tests everyday.

Enlightenment would equate to recognising that partition was pointless what will end the very purpose of Islamic state Jinnah created.

That's why I said national conservatism.
It's just all about national identity and national pride and seeks the way to boost them.
Simply by defining a glorious national history of its nation over others and doing things to strengthen the nationstate (state sponsored capitalism and socialism).
Since communism regards countries as artificial tribes, they both are simply at war.



Spillout in Afghanistan will easily hit Xinjiang once US is out. Urban warfare is quite different from that on battlefields (nor China holds any significant experience of border, expeditionary or urban war in a country, at least for 50 years. It just has built up a military but is inexperienced).

Over that all, Taliban is world's richest and most powerful terrorist group in the world, far far more powerful than ISIS.
I will disagree a lil bit here, brother. Taliban relies heavily on guerrilla tactics and exploiting SOPs. It's not a conventional military. When their IED trigger man gets shot without confirmation and China lays siege to the entire village on suspicion of harboring arms, Taliban's capability will start waning. If China ignores the Geneva Convention and downright brutalizes the populace, going after kids and wives as well, they'll have no option but to die by the wayside or surrender.

I am sure China will be more effective than US in putting Taliban down. It's not about combat capability or motivation.
It takes nothing to demoralize and destroy the enemy by sapping his will to fight when you're not bound by international laws.

China has a direct land route for logistics there (Wakhan Corridor) and won't need to rely heavily on Pakistan.
It goes without saying that the job will be ten thousand times harder if America steps in to arm Afghan militias again but I'm counting on it.

By the gods, I pray we get to see this scenario play out.
It could even make China turn a lil less pro Pak and a lil more Pro India if the situation gets out of hand.

To sum up my feelings in a single picture-

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The reality isn't important, the perception is, why do you think they have banned reporting on this domestically and got their foreign Media friends to not report at all?
Most of the foreign media get their news from local media and more over nearly all the foreign media are either islamist, leftist or both so they are not going to report any thing negative about porkshitan.
 

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If state loose Pakistan ll nt remain in same shape . Army and its propaganda, attrocities keeps the nation floating . Moulvies ll sink it .. Islam may works only where there is one ethinic identity . For that too i cnt think of a real life example .

if pak disintegrates it suits our goal much better . I am skeptic any long term peace can be achieved as long as pakistan is there ..
It works when there is the threat of the kaffir.
Otherwise they start killing each other over not being "true muslims"
Islam is self destructive without the presence of the unbeliever.
It is the Kuffar that unites Muslims, not Ummah or Chummah.





Rasgoola labbaik :clap2: ..
ALHAMDULILAH.

Lol Imrandi, Piggy state bows to whims of some random jihadi mobs
Shame shame shame.
 

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The reality isn't important, the perception is, why do you think they have banned reporting on this domestically and got their foreign Media friends to not report at all?
USA is keeping close eye inside they know what's happening... Infact they might have a role to play in it too.

If they decide to take control of porky nukes and destroy it completely that would be the best thing to happen. I know it's too much to think as of now but this situation can actually follow that way.
 

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The reality isn't important, the perception is, why do you think they have banned reporting on this domestically and got their foreign Media friends to not report at all?
Don't worry foreign media will report but like this :- is india behind turmoil in pakistan ? . First one will be VICE news then Al Jazeera and then it will create a domino effect
 

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