TEDBF or ORCA Updates

NutCracker

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Unfortunately IOC & FOC are given by user, not developer or manufacturer. Are you suggesting new AF under HAL, like HAF ? IOC only helpful for lsp and testing, with basic capability, not to cancel mrfa/mmrca/etc.
Its very unfortunate that, IOC first flight is not going to ensure any thing, but initial stage of a weapon testing by a developer & need multiple years to complete & to handover it to AF, with small lsp order.
No, what I meant is when TEDBF receives IOC by Navy..

there will be less boxes unchecked for IAF to whine against this project.
 

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My bad on typo,

I meant DAS as in eots
Currently I think, no das & eots for amca mk1, only amca mk2[2035] comes with irst maws- das. mk1 comes with dc-maws stealth version and lca mk2 & tedbf comes with similar/same non stealth dc-maws.
 

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No, what I meant is when TEDBF receives IOC by Navy..

there will be less boxes unchecked for IAF to whine against this project.
Again, not helpful. IAF requirement and IN requirement were different. For ex. sh is very good for navy, but sh only meet min. req of IAF. Means, still need more time to develop af version, and at the end iaf choose amca mk2.
 

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Again, not helpful. IAF requirement and IN requirement were different. For ex. sh is very good for navy, but sh only meet min. req of IAF. Means, still need more time to develop af version, and at the end iaf choose amca mk2.
I know. I am just replying to another user who wants HAL to pitch TEDBF land variant directly to the GOI.

Still I might say it can happen. We cant have 400 AMCA. in 2040s we will have to find 4.5Gen replacement of SU30MKI.
 

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I know. I am just replying to another user who wants HAL to pitch TEDBF land variant directly to the GOI.

Still I might say it can happen. We cant have 400 AMCA. in 2040s we will have to find 4.5Gen replacement of SU30MKI.
I'm clueless here, my bad.
Any ways, my opinion, not important,
First of all both teddy af or amca can't replace su30mki. Before considering teddy, what is the adv of teddy against mwf & amca ? IAF need 6th gen to replace 4.5gen mki. The most imp point is, both PAF & PLAAF deploy 5th gen against IAF, and need 400 stealth jet to counter both. Stealth jet & loyal wingman is the future, and 4.5 jet for support/low cost, & mwf mk2[lca mk3] comes with 110~125kn engine, and IN can deploy their jets in north if needed. Its better to spend money to buy more tedbf instead of spending on af version
 

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