TEDBF or ORCA Updates

Adm Kenobi

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More of whichever wins MRCBF.

AFAIK, the SH production line will close by 2024 if no new orders are given by US Navy. If that happens (and if SH wins the 26 jets order now) we'll be left to receive 2nd hand USN jets or RAAF's 28 SH (which are fairly new, inducted 2010) which they want to replace with F-35 when the time comes to build an airwing for IAC-2.
does it sound more feasible to you than TEDBF? 14000cr for development is not a biggie for IN, it can afford spending 14k cr between the 2024-29 time period with ease.
IN is all in for TEDBF,
 

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does it sound more feasible to you than TEDBF? 14000cr for development is not a biggie for IN, it can afford spending 14k cr between the 2024-29 time period with ease.
IN is all in for TEDBF,
It will have to - we can't keep buying a new fighter for the Navy every decade.
 

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Production Of Twin Engine Deck Based Fighter Will Start By 2031: CNS Admiral R. Hari Kumar
Preliminary work for development of the TEDBF has begun at Aeronautical Development Agency with support from the Indian Navy. The Project is being monitored by the naval Project workplace at Bengaluru, that was at the start created to coordinate the LCA (N) project. The craft is planned to undertake its first flight by the year 2026 and roll out the assembly variant by the year 2031.

TEDBF can feature a close-coupled fable and Diverterless supersonic water (DSI) air intake with stealing optimized frontal body section and wider cockpit space for carrier-based landings. TEDBF is powered by Two GE-F414IN engines which will be later replaced by an associate native 110kN category engine to be developed for the AMCA Program. TEDBF style will any optimized to hold 5th generation fighter technology once in production.

In twelve years from now, a twin engine variant of India’s Tejas fighter might begin replacement Russian designed MiG-29K jets deployed onboard the Indian Navy’s aircraft carriers INS Vikramaditya and Vikrant that are inducted terribly soon in Indian Navy.

Consideration twenty three tonnes, the Navy Twin Engine Deck based fighter would be considerably larger than the 13.5 ton Tejas Mk-1 fighter that has entered squadron service with the Indian Air Force and therefore the 17.5 ton Tejas Mk-2 which is supposed to be inducted into the Indian Air Force from 2030. The fighter would be within the size of the MiG-29K presently being operated by the Indian Navy on its craft carrier, the INS Vikramaditya, and would have the power of carrying a weapons payload of 9 tonnes. it’d feature folding wings to save lots of houses on the deck of aircraft carriers. The jet would seemingly have a prime speed in the vary of philosopher 1.6 or simply under 2,000 kilometres per hour.

Each the Navy Twin Engine Deck based fighter and therefore the Air Force Omni Role Fighter would host many indigenous sensors and avionics that are currently at a complicated stage of development. This includes a lively Electronically Scanned radar (AESA) which may at the same time track targets within the air and out at sea or overland with nice precision. All the fighters would be built with designed in India information links and communication systems which might change the jets during a formation to firmly exchange important sensor data throughout a mission. a bunch of made-in-India weapons, as well as a long vary variants of the Astra air to air missile that has recently completed tests, would arm the jets.

Project designers indicate that none of the long run variants of the Tejas currently being studied are an area of the Navy or Air Force’s present acquisition plans. ”More than 750 aircraft can need replacement between 2030 and 2050.” By 2040, many older aircraft in commission with the Indian Air Force, including the Sukhoi 30MKI, presently the cutting edge, would wish to retire.

Development of a larger, twin engine variant of the Tejas, designers feel, is associate progressive discovery as they at the same time proceed with the look and development of a made-in-India stealth fighter referred to as the Advanced Medium Combat craft (AMCA), each larger, a lot of capable and costlier than variants of the Tejas. The AMCA is predicted to begin coming into squadron service with the IAF from 2040 if funding is secured.

A twin engine variant of the Tejas would be within the category of the Rafale – extraordinarily nimble with wonderful sensing element fusion,” say designers performing on the plans for the futurist fighter. ”The jet would be extremely nimble with excellent sensor fusion. the actual fact that this could be entirely designed associated developed in Bharat would be a large boost for our ambitions in being a part power.”
 

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I'm new to the forum, so guide me accordingly.
If F/A 18 can be pitched to both Navy and Air force, can't tedbf be pitched to IAF without any 'ORCA song and dance' ?
AF is focused on MRFA ..tho tedbf and MRFA will be of same class but AF wants something "readymade" and "fast"(MRFA wont come fast) ...tedbf isnt either so...i dont completely blame the AF for not backing TEDBf given the similar timeline more AMCA would be preferable...but if by some chance MRFA fall through and we just end p importing 36-54 rafales then ORCA/tedbf might have a chance
 

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AF is focused on MRFA ..tho tedbf and MRFA will be of same class but AF wants something "readymade" and "fast"(MRFA wont come fast) ...tedbf isnt either so...i dont completely blame the AF for not backing TEDBf given the similar timeline more AMCA would be preferable...but if by some chance MRFA fall through and we just end p importing 36-54 rafales then ORCA/tedbf might have a chance
I would like to see 36 rafale off-the-shelf purchase as the most preferred option. AMCA and TEDBF can coexist in procurement pipeline. When facing enemy with deeper pockets, why pay for premium foren maal ? Can be instead used to overhaul our army for the Himalayan war scenario. Till AMCA and TEDBF are ready, buy mk1a and mk2 in significant numbers instead.
 

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Production Of Twin Engine Deck Based Fighter Will Start By 2031: CNS Admiral R. Hari Kumar
1.''TEDBF is powered by Two GE-F414IN engines which will be later replaced by an associate native 110kN category engine to be developed for the AMCA Program''
2.''17.5 ton Tejas Mk-2 which is supposed to be inducted into the Indian Air Force from 2030 ''
3,''The AMCA is predicted to begin coming into squadron service with the IAF from 2040 if funding is secured. ''
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1. 110kN engine, single engine for 3 aircraft.
2. again delay ?
3. very long, and makes less sense.
 

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Production Of Twin Engine Deck Based Fighter Will Start By 2031: CNS Admiral R. Hari Kumar
1.''TEDBF is powered by Two GE-F414IN engines which will be later replaced by an associate native 110kN category engine to be developed for the AMCA Program''
2.''17.5 ton Tejas Mk-2 which is supposed to be inducted into the Indian Air Force from 2030 ''
3,''The AMCA is predicted to begin coming into squadron service with the IAF from 2040 if funding is secured. ''
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1. 110kN engine, single engine for 3 aircraft.
2. again delay ?
3. very long, and makes less sense.
2. Gripen NG took 5 years from rollout to induction.. we should be able to do the same
 

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2. Gripen NG took 5 years from rollout to induction.. we should be able to do the same
Maybe, it depends.
The major difference b/w Gripen and Gripen NG are engine and radar, both of comes from proven tech, and the major part is integration of engine and took 5 years for that, on the other hand lca mk2 is entirely a new jet, and takes more than 5 years or more considering IAF,GoI, MRFA etc. better comparison, f/a 18 vs f/a 18 sh.
Also its from Navy not from AF, only ADA can predict the timeframe. Faster development depends on proven tech.
 

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