TEDBF or ORCA Updates

[hit&run]

Reporting is good but why AMCA related discussion is not happening in its dedicated thread? Here is the Link AMCA Thread

 

[HawkisRight]

Updates by AK

 

[HawkisRight]

Vinod Kumar, project Director, Tedbf, ADA

 

[Bleh]

Vinod Kumar, project Director, Tedbf, ADA

@Kuntal Front view.. :3

 

[Bleh]

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Wow TEDBF , Canard looks like a control Canard for more control during slow speed and carrier landing . As deck based fighter it is expected.

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Full picture of TEDBF ! This one looks similar to the art work circulated in various platforms

Didn't expect the whole new design of TEDBF concept to be ready this quickly!..

Looking at the shaping of its fuselage, it should have better area-ruling coefficient than both MWF & AMCA... It's not gonna have internal weapons bay it seems, so much more internal fuel than AMCA.

 

[Marliii]

According to the director there are two designs one is delta wing which is the model present near him and a trapezoidal wing design.

 

[Bleh]

Navy Chief Admiral Karambir Singh said on 03 December 2019, that DRDO offered to develop a new twin-engine deck-based fighter aircraft for the Navy based on the experience of the Naval Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) & NLCA Mark2.

 

[Marliii]

Navy Chief Admiral Karambir Singh said on 03 December 2019, that DRDO offered to develop a new twin-engine deck-based fighter aircraft for the Navy based on the experience of the Naval Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) & NLCA Mark2.

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This one is the delta configuration. There is another one with trapezoidal wing.f22 also had trapezoidal wings right?

 

[Bleh]

This one is the delta configuration. There is another one with trapezoidal wing.f22 also had trapezoidal wings right?

Yes, this other pattern...

TEDBF or ORCA Updates

But won't the above suggestion be simpler?.. Lesser missing & reshaping. Also the number of vertical stabilizers depend on the vortex formation. Actually the present one has the canards further apart, outside the intakes (like J-20) & may need twin vertical stabilisers... But if canards be on...

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It superficially resembles Rafale

Shitfucking longer than Rafale tho... No doubt they took elements from it, but from the sides also has similarities with Eurofighter Typhoon & wings with J-10.

 

[Tactical Doge]

Shitfucking longer than Rafale tho... No doubt they took elements from it, but from the sides also has similarities with Eurofighter Typhoon & wings with J-10.

Maybe it resembles Rafael bcoZ maybe it's the most optimal, surely it's not an outright copy, they must have came to this conclusion after a lot of research

But have to admit it, Tedbf is a fine lady
Can't wait for the day it takes to the skies

 

[Cruise missile]

Navy Chief Admiral Karambir Singh said on 03 December 2019, that DRDO offered to develop a new twin-engine deck-based fighter aircraft for the Navy based on the experience of the Naval Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) & NLCA Mark2.

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Levcons + canards+DSI.

 

[Bleh]

Levcons + canards+DSI.

No no. No levcons here... Leading-edge flaps exist on all Tejas & most other jets. Those are not levxons. Only NLCA has that.

 

[FalconSlayers]

How many TEDBF will Navy buy if it becomes operational?

Around 100+ as per Navy chief to operationaise into all 3 Aircraft carriers that we will have in future, INS vikramaditya, INS Vikrant and INS Vishal (under planning).

 

[Arihant Roy]

Another excellent vid from Anantha Krishnan.

Some important observations-.

1. The bulges on the sides of the cockpit and extending over the dorsal surface are conformal fuel tanks. The obtuse angle between the intake walls and the wings have been deliberately done to reflect incoming rf waves at directions other than that of the emitter. Will reduce RCS. Coupled with the faceted front fuselage which is edge aligned with the intakes as is evident from the pic, there are certain elements of low observability built into the design from ground up. With adequate ram treatments and serrations on panels and trailing edges of elevons ,flaps and canards, Tedbf will have a lower RCS than even the Rafale .

2. Navy had put forward it's initial requirements in an informal manner for a twin engined deck based fighter in early 2020. And initial configuration studies began then and there.

3. Initial requirements were put forth in an official manner in May of 2020. Since then the Navy PO had been formally attached with the Ada team and had been continuously providing it's inputs to suit the configuration as per their requirement .

4. The ADA team had come up with two configurations . One is a delta canard , the model of which you are seeing now. Another is a trapezoidal wing with tail planes configuration. Work on both are continuing in a parallel manner now. Both configurations among many designs met Navy's initial requirements .

5. Low speed wind tunnel tests on the delta canard Rafale ish design will begin soon which will further help in fine tuning the design .

6. Tedbf will have a MTOW of 26 tons which is one and a half tons higher than than of Rafale M. Will have a significant bring back capability . Mr Kumar had emphasized on this time and again. Ada's design legacy and experience gained through NP1 and NP2 have helped them in designing the TEDBF . In other words, the Naval Mk1 was an important stepping stone to Tedbf without which the design team would have had to face many hiccups and teething troubles while developing tedbf. Now, the entire process has become much easier with the experience gained through the various flight trials at shore based test facility especially the takeoff and landings from INS Vikramaditya.

7. Navy will issue it's Operational requirements and PQR soon.

 

[Bleh]

1. The bulges on the sides of the cockpit and extending over the dorsal surface are conformal fuel tanks. The obtuse angle between the intake walls and the wings have been deliberately done to reflect incoming rf waves at directions other than that of the emitter. Will reduce RCS. Coupled with the faceted front fuselage which is edge aligned with the intakes as is evident from the pic, there are certain elements of low observability built into the design from ground up. With adequate ram treatments and serrations on panels and trailing edges of elevons ,flaps and canards, Tedbf will have a lower RCS than even the Rafale .

This point is most probably not the case.

From this view no conformal furl tanks are seen, but the bulges are there. They are there to improve area-ruling drag coefficient of the fuselage...

 

[Tactical Doge]

It superficially resembles Rafale

@Karthi
Bro why you angry Nigga'
Just pointed out a superficial resemblance

 

[Suryavanshi]

@Karthi
Bro why you angry Nigga'
Just pointed out a superficial resemblance

It's a bad narrative.
Come tomorrow Pakis will repeat the same thing and some western nighas might as well.
TEDBF is the next obvious step to Tejas which is Delta wing itself.
The future is delta and compound tailed delta.
We have been developing Tejas mk 2 with Canards why are we not saying it is a evolution from Tejas mk 2 and Naval LCA?

 

[Cruise missile]

Seems like both the models have levcon @Bleh

 

[Bleh]

@patriots @porky_kicker @Karthi @Kuntal
As far as area-ruling is concerned, TEDBF fuselage is superior to both MWF & AMCA!

 

[Cruise missile]

@patriots @porky_kicker @Karthi @Kuntal
As far as area-ruling is concerned, TEDBF fuselage is superior to both MWF & AMCA!

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This is the second design right?