Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

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Wouldn't surprise me if cuckoldry and prostitution are very prevalent in Pak Army, with some of the middle-ranks using their wives to curry favours, seek promotions, corner plots, business propositions, etc., from their seniors. Bhadwa would have slept with every current Lt Gen's wife/mistress/daughter.
In addition to that also hearing about one leaked Video clip of former Sindh Governor Muhammad Zubair Umar (Nawaz Sharif's party member)
 

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Hah :pound:

Do they seriously believe that Russia is going to help them by providing access to its bases after they have continually harassed Russia by sending US warships and planes in the Black Sea?
A deal could be cut tbh in exchange for lifting of sanctions
 

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A deal could be cut tbh in exchange for lifting of sanctions
The billions of dollars lost to Russia is also a loss to the US. The US would have been enriched by the other half of that economic activity.

Sanctions cost the US too, not just the other guy. The economic loss is the economic activity the Russians don't have, and the corresponding economic activity that the Americans don't have. It does not just go somewhere else for the US, any more than it does for Russia. It is a loss to the US as well.

Sanctions are not free to USA. It costs them, like all war costs them too. Conflict is the opposite of economic life.
 

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Hah :pound:

Do they seriously believe that Russia is going to help them by providing access to its bases after they have continually harassed Russia by sending US warships and planes in the Black Sea?
Actually putin first made that offer about using tajik bases for muricans to conduct afghan operations..
 

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Actually putin first made that offer about using tajik bases for muricans to conduct afghan operations..
For over the horizon CT operations? As far as I know, Putin told Biden at Geneva that he won't let them use their Central Asian bases. Their Foreign Minister Ryabkov had also said the same:

“I would emphasize that the redeployment of the American permanent military presence to the countries neighboring Afghanistan is unacceptable. We told the Americans in a direct and straightforward way that it would change a lot of things not only in our perceptions of what’s going on in that important region, but also in our relations with the United States.

We cautioned our Central Asian allies too against such steps, and we also have had a frank talk on the subject with our Central Asian allies, neighbors and friends and also other countries in the region that would be directly affected.”
 

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US be like dhobi ka dog

Interesting development.

US deep state made a wrong move in Ukraine. They thought they could steal Ukraine from right under Russian nose without any concecqunces. Ukraine is a mess now and US deep state and EU elites are still behaving arrogantly. Maybe Afghanistan fiasco gave them the reality check they much needed.

If US mends their relationship with Russia it will be biggest geopolitical blow to Chinese ambitions. However there is a strong anti-Russia lobby in DC, especially among Democrats. so it won't be that easy.
 

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Interesting development.

US deep state made a wrong move in Ukraine. They thought they could steal Ukraine from right under Russian nose without any concecqunces. Ukraine is a mess now and US deep state and EU elites are still behaving arrogantly. Maybe Afghanistan fiasco gave them the reality check they much needed.

If US mends their relationship with Russia it will be biggest geopolitical blow to Chinese ambitions. However there is a strong anti-Russia lobby in DC, especially among Democrats. so it won't be that easy.

Its now going on for some time now,

Democrats= Anti Russia
Republicans= Anti China

When a Republican is in White House than Democrats accuse them of Russian collusion and when a Democrat is in White House than Republicans accuse them of Chinese collusion.

One of the reason I can come up with, Republicans sympathise with Russia as majority of Russians are Orthodox Christians.

And about Democrats, they sympathise with China because they themselves have totally tilted towards Communism and Globalism just like China.

So basically a "Religious Right Vs Marxist Left".


US deepstate has failed to do a regime change in Belarus, just as they did with Ukraine. Its main aim is to dislodge Putin. Russia will not sit quite if Ukraine joins NATO and its troops swarm around Russian borders. Russia will annex Donbass and present a Fait Accompli to the NATO just it did with Crimea.

The world's best Chess players comes from Russia, and US Deep State should know about this.
 

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Its now going on for some time now,

Democrats= Anti Russia
Republicans= Anti China

When a Republican is in White House than Democrats accuse them of Russian collusion and when a Democrat is in White House than Republicans accuse them of Chinese collusion.
You know what the wonderful twist of irony in that whole thing is? The War Party benefits either way.

They are able to make money either way, no matter which administration is in power, either against "Chinese Hegemony" or "Russian interference".

Only, the region in focus shifts with a change of power.

Plus, even if it's a Republican in power, the War Lobbyists will never let them make peace with Russia. Same goes for a Democrat President vis a vis China.

Case in point: Look at what happened with US-Russia relations immediately post 9/11. The Presidents of both countries had worked together in a remarkable manner, and were just one step away from a long-lasting friendship, when the Neocons spoiled it all, and under their pressure, Bush backtracked and destroyed all the goodwill that had taken place and reneged on his word.
 

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Its now going on for some time now,

Democrats= Anti Russia
Republicans= Anti China

When a Republican is in White House than Democrats accuse them of Russian collusion and when a Democrat is in White House than Republicans accuse them of Chinese collusion.

One of the reason I can come up with, Republicans sympathise with Russia as majority of Russians are Orthodox Christians.

And about Democrats, they sympathise with China because they themselves have totally tilted towards Communism and Globalism just like China.

So basically a "Religious Right Vs Marxist Left".


US deepstate has failed to do a regime change in Belarus, just as they did with Ukraine. Its main aim is to dislodge Putin. Russia will not sit quite if Ukraine joins NATO and its troops swarm around Russian borders. Russia will annex Donbass and present a Fait Accompli to the NATO just it did with Crimea.

The world's best Chess players comes from Russia, and US Deep State should know about this.
Democrats and Republican both parties are highly corrupt and are full of deep state puppets. Ideological devide is for local population when it comes to foreign affairs both follow the same line.

In 2012 it was Mitt Romney, a Republican and a puppet of deepstate who voiced concerns about Russia. John Mccain another Republican and deepstate stooge called Russia the biggest threat in the world. It was only after Hillary Clinton a democrat and deppstate's favorite started campaigning that Russia stole US election, that made anti-Russia narrative go mainstream in Democrat party.

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Trump was only president in recent history who wasn't controlled by deepstate and they hated him for that.


So it isn't really ideological devide but rather deepstate vs others fighting for control of US foreign policy.
 

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You know what the wonderful twist of irony in that whole thing is? The War Party benefits either way.

They are able to make money either way, no matter which administration is in power, either against "Chinese Hegemony" or "Russian interference".

Only, the region in focus shifts with a change of power.

Plus, even if it's a Republican in power, the War Lobbyists will never let them make peace with Russia. Same goes for a Democrat President vis a vis China.

Case in point: Look at what happened with US-Russia relations immediately post 9/11. The Presidents of both countries had worked together in a remarkable manner, and were just one step away from a long-lasting friendship, when the Neocons spoiled it all, and under their pressure, Bush backtracked and destroyed all the goodwill that had taken place and reneged on his word.

US govt is run by Corporations. US govt always caters to the needs of its Corporate donors in MIC, Wall Street, Pharma lobbies, Oil industry, Big Tech, etc.

No matter who ever is in White House, Democrat or a Republican, its always the Shadow Government who pulls the strings.

For eg, You will always see the Dems and Reps coming together in matters of Israel. They suddenly forget all their differences and become buddies. You will always see both Republicans and Democrats at AIPAC conferences (one of the elements of Deep State) holding hands and making merry while singing praises for Israel.

The more recent example will be Bi-partisan voting for funding of Israel's Iron Dome System.
 

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Democrats and Republican both parties are highly corrupt and are full of deep state puppets. Ideological devide is for local population when it comes to foreign affairs both follow the same line.

So it isn't really ideological devide but rather deepstate vs others fighting for control of US foreign policy.
Thats what I implied in my following post in the thread.
 

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US govt is run by Corporations. US govt always caters to the needs of its Corporate donors in MIC, Wall Street, Pharma lobbies, Oil industry, Big Tech, etc.

No matter who ever is in White House, Democrat or a Republican, its always the Shadow Government who pulls the strings.

For eg, You will always see the Dems and Reps coming together in matters of Israel. They suddenly forget all their differences and become buddies. You will always see both Republicans and Democrats at AIPAC conferences (one of the elements of Deep State) holding hands and making merry while singing praises for Israel.

The more recent example will be Bi-partisan voting for funding of Israel's Iron Dome System.
Right on with the example of Israel. Except for a select few stauch anti-war politicians like Ron Paul(one of the rare few in the Republican Party), you will never see a single politician not supporting Israel. It's tantamount to political suicide.

In the funding of Israel's Iron Dome vote that you quoted, even AOC of all people, for all her tears and cries, could not vote No.

It will be a miracle come true if in this day and age, you can get a Republican Congressman who is against Israel. Even the Democrats, who sometimes take the anti-Israel route circuitously by playing the Islamophobia and Palestine card, are so jittery on this issue that Nancy Pelosi, their leader, said ON THE FLOOR OF CONGRESS, when the issue of aid to Israel was being discussed:

"We will always provide aid to Israel even if the United States of America crumbles to the ground."

Such is the power of the Zionists.
 

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You know what the wonderful twist of irony in that whole thing is? The War Party benefits either way.

They are able to make money either way, no matter which administration is in power, either against "Chinese Hegemony" or "Russian interference".

Only, the region in focus shifts with a change of power.

Plus, even if it's a Republican in power, the War Lobbyists will never let them make peace with Russia. Same goes for a Democrat President vis a vis China.

Case in point: Look at what happened with US-Russia relations immediately post 9/11. The Presidents of both countries had worked together in a remarkable manner, and were just one step away from a long-lasting friendship, when the Neocons spoiled it all, and under their pressure, Bush backtracked and destroyed all the goodwill that had taken place and reneged on his word.
Russia is a perfect boogyman to blame everything. Russia is today weak country with small economy. Russia can't do much in retaliation. Hating on it keeps war machine oiled and domestic population entertained. The failures of establishment are hidden under thr rug and if ever exposed Russians get the blame for it.

We may wonder why they are doing this?

Before cold war America was a much different country. Presidents, congressman and local politicians all respected will of the people. America was also quite introvert and nonsense nation.

However because of the cold war American elites started mistrusting publicly elected officials and started shifting major power to unelected officials and powerful gov agencies. This was also time of rapid capitalist expansion so private companies including defence contractors started bidding to these powerful official for favours. This led to creation of deepstate.

Some people belive Joseph MaCarthy's power abuse and cult of MaCarthyism was the origin of modern deepstate. Some even belive that by 60s deepstate murdered JFK to signal its dominance. Whatever truth maybe but it is a fact that under the threat of USSR deepstate enjoyed unchallenged power and access to money.

Therefore it is natural that they want to continue their dominance by creating new enemies. This new Russia scare is part of this plan. Modern US politicians are too corrupt to care about any of this.
 

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