Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

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If Pakistan let go of Gilgit-Baltistan without escalating all the way to the nuclear domain, the country would disintegrate.

The donkey's dream of one day re-taking J&K (and beyond), and some big Islamic ideological payoff in the subcontinent (whereby Muslims outpopulate Hindus in India, and reunite with other Islamic pieces to restore a Muslim nation-state that spans the subcontinent); is what is keeping Pakistan in one piece. So if they lose G-B without sufficiently putting up a fight (i.e. throw everything they have at India), it would strike at this foundation.

Actually, this would be the boldest bluff for India to call. It will cost us a decade of MNC investments as Goras will do the same things they did to Russia post Crimea, but it's worth it in the long run. It will make India contiguous with Central Asia, which means we buy energy from Russia and give the Arabs a GPL.

With dependence on Arabs gone, India can finally make big internal demographic changes toward Hindu Rashtra (which are not possible now as the Arabs can close the taps on our oil, Central Asian sulli states don't care and remain under Moscow's grasp).
you really think this is what's tying our hands? the Sunni gulf states don't really seem to care for many Muslims suffering in their biradar - Palestine - or what China does in Xinjiang. I'm unconvinced that it's not a cope for us refusing to even head off our demographic and internal security issues for this.
 

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Dude, you gotta stop posting this stuff. I'm sorry, but the resistance is done. Maybe in the first couple of weeks after the fall of Kabul, if a major power like Russia or India had seriously supported the resistance in Panjshir, they could have held out for much longer or possibly even won, but they've lost.
 

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Dude, you gotta stop posting this stuff. I'm sorry, but Panjshir is done. Maybe in the first couple of weeks after the fall of Kabul, if a major power like Russia or India had seriously supported the resistance, they could have held out for much longer or possibly even won, but they've lost.
Panjshir did not fall, it is live an kicking.

Come winter, Taliban in Panjshir will become the targets.
 

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Panjshir did not fall, it is live an kicking.

Come winter, Taliban in Panjshir will become the targets.
Best case scenario let's say this happens. Then what, they control a small valley, isolated from the borders with every other nation? They'll hold out until spring and then get fucked again.

Ofc that's not to say that we should favor the Taliban. They are the least Pashtun nationalist. Even the TTP, when push comes to shove (like right after 26/11 in 2008 when they were anticipating a war between India and Pakistan) they said they would support the Pak army (their biggest enemy that they had been fighting against) against the Kaffirs. And that's the TTP who hates Pak way more than the Afghan Taliban. The Afghan Taliban is an occasionally misbehaving puppet of Pak. Any attempts to reach out they will just take our money for development and do nothing to show for it. And won't even dream of openly challenging the Durand line if the Kaffirs suggest it. Them and the TTP have to unite and come to that decision on their own. After which they will accept covert Indian support.

It's best to just let Afghanistan go and strength our nuclear capabilities to become independent of the constraints of China and the US/NATO/UN so that we can kick Pork's ass if they use Afghanistan to host militants and plan attacks in Kashmir. That's why I say India should buy some R36s. Show US what might happen if they try another 71st fleet.
 
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Winter is fighting season in india, friend its not fighting season in afganistan.
Its a old thing most people know , that's why they the afgans fight in spring.
The supply lines become thinner and Taliban cannot launch big scale offensive against Resistance. This is when the snipers from the mountains will target the Taliban, a hunting ground from the Resistance.
 

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Best case scenario let's say this happens. Then what, they control a small valley, isolated from the borders with every other nation? They'll hold out until spring and then get fucked again.

Ofc that's not to say that we should favor the Taliban. They are the least Pashtun nationalist. Even the TTP, when push comes to shove (like right after 26/11 in 2008 when they were anticipating a war between India and Pakistan) they said they would support the Pak army (their biggest enemy that they had been fighting against) against the Kaffirs. And that's the TTP who hates Pak way more than the Afghan Taliban. The Afghan Taliban is an occasionally misbehaving puppet of Pak. Any attempts to reach out they will just take our money for development and do nothing to show for it. And won't even dream of openly challenging the Durand line if the Kaffirs suggest it. Them and the TTP have to unite and come to that decision on their own. After which they will accept covert Indian support.

It's best to just let Afghanistan go and strength our nuclear capabilities to become independent of the constraints of China and the US/NATO/UN so that we can kick Pork's ass if they use Afghanistan to host militants and plan attacks in Kashmir. That's why I say India should buy some R36s. Show US what might happen if they try another 71st fleet.
Afghans themselves are fighting the Taliban and Pakistan. India is supporting the Afghans as a nation.
 

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Afghans themselves are fighting the Taliban and Pakistan. India is supporting the Afghans as a nation.
How are we supporting them? Well wishes on twitter? And which Afghans? There is no large scale resistance movement. The Afghan people want peace even more than to not have the Taliban in power, that's why virtually no one is prolonging the conflict even with Talibs in power. Panjshir resistance was a small minority.
 

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The supply lines become thinner and Taliban cannot launch big scale offensive against Resistance. This is when the snipers from the mountains will target the Taliban, a hunting ground from the Resistance.
Ok , so what makes you think that taliban will remain in panjshir in winters?
They would rather concentrate on disrupting supplies to panjshir who are more vulnerable as far as supplies are concerned
 

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Ok , so what makes you think that taliban will remain in panjshir in winters?
They would rather concentrate on disrupting supplies to panjshir who are more vulnerable as far as supplies are concerned
They can survive 1 year as per sources, if not more. They have the air support.
 

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How are we supporting them? Well wishes on twitter? And which Afghans? There is no large scale resistance movement. The Afghan people want peace even more than to not have the Taliban in power, that's why virtually no one is prolonging the conflict even with Talibs in power. Panjshir resistance was a small minority.
Few months will give the picture if Afghan people want Taliban in power.
 

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Pakistan has pretty good lobbyists.. Yesterday there was senate hearing and today, Imran Khan is on an interview denying that Pakistan did any wrong..
Pakistan fries the fish on its own oil. It is US money that goes to pay for the lobbyists who in turn lobby for more money to be granted to Porkies. It is win win for both. So, obviously the lobbies wont want to kill the golden goose.

Btw, the deep state might have abandoned directly ruling Afghanistan and thereby exploiting the resources, but they would be reluctant to let China to get a free access to the region either. They now sooner or later they would have to cut the umbilical cord from Beijing as once Beijing gets the upper hand, Beijing would no longer be generous with the dough. There's nobody better than the US deep state to know the Chinkies as it is them who provided all the lumbers to Beijing and Commies to build the stairs. So, they would be weary and would like to keep a backdoor open - and who could be better backdoor than the sh#thole porkistan?


Small Tajikistan stands out as Afghanistan's only neighbor to condemn the new Taliban regime.

Tajikistan never had an independent diplomatic stand. I doubt any of the post-USSR stans have any say where broader diplomatic or strategic move is concerned. They know what happened with Ukraine and they won't dare antagonize Russia.

It is Putin showing his stance. Putin historically never liked terrorists and how he dealt with Chechen terrorists is very well known. So, he obviously wouldn't let the desert cult to assert in his backyard in one of the Stans.
 

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Few months will give the picture if Afghan people want Taliban in power.
If they actually get together and put together a huge resistance movement, then we can maybe support them somehow. But that seems unlikely, we don't have directly supply lines. We aren't US who can use Pak, we're the last country who can do that. At most we can use Tajik air force bases. But that is limited as Pak air force can cut off supply line there, we would have to capture GB. That entails a possible nuclear war. Our BMD aren't ready to intercept tactical nukes yet. That risk is only worth it if Pak attacks us directly, not to support a bunch of Kaffir hating 4th world Afghans.
 

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If they actually get together and put together a huge resistance movement, then we can maybe support them somehow. But that seems unlikely, we don't have directly supply lines. We aren't US who can use Pak, we're the last country who can do that. At most we can use Tajik air force bases. But that is limited as Pak air force can cut off supply line there, we would have to capture GB. That entails a possible nuclear war. Our BMD aren't ready to intercept tactical nukes yet.
There are multiple ways India can support Afghanistan. Iranian Foreign minister is coming to India. India just concluded the military exercise with Russia.
 

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