Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

[Knowitall]

answer to this is that after Ghani came to “power”, they did ask for more freedom to operate their own way. Muricans focused on ghost soldiers story and made more conditions for funding.

Result was that, DFI along with others were in awe of afghan SF kit funded by muricans(some even compared afghan SF kit to our “SF kit”) , failed to recognise how hollow the ground game was(including me).

Their SF are actually great and are the strongest link of the ANA.

Infact they have been gradually taking over various operations including night raids from the US SF as the calls for leaving Afghanistan grew louder.

Unfortunately ANA's ground and police force is non existent so as to speak.

They pledge their loyalty to the local warlord and only join the army for the pay.

Many who actually wish to fight face a corrupt system where reinforcements and equipment are non existent.

The result is clearly visible. While Afghan SF are busy pushing back taliban in some sectors the ANA completely collapses on the other front.

 

[Narasimh]

 

[Lost user]

I agree but the withdrawal was kinda rushed,the deal was brought to stop violence and create peace,but reverse happened.

No.. the US deal with the Taliban, was only to ensure that US troops are not threatened by the Taliban during the withdrawal...

 

[WARREN SS]

Turkey state media actively negative about
Taliban

 

[sorcerer]

Their SF are actually great and are the strongest link of the ANA.

Infact they have been gradually taking over various operations including night raids from the US SF as the calls for leaving Afghanistan grew louder.

Unfortunately ANA's ground and police force is non existent so as to speak.

They pledge their loyalty to the local warlord and only join the army for the pay.

Many who actually wish to fight face a corrupt system where reinforcements and equipment are non existent.

The result is clearly visible. While Afghan SF are busy pushing back taliban in some sectors the ANA completely collapses on the other front.

The subsequent Afghan Govt was just a `setting` which never fully got the loyalty of its soldiers. I think the whole middle east,sand tribe has a bigger `clan problem` which will never ever ever fix itself nor change for the democracy thing at all. Various clans since time immemorial controlled swaths of land in these sandy geography. The whole islamic sales pitch is just to brainwash the people into a certain level of submission and to go with the changing scenario.

Even when we look at UAE, behind the scenes of the so called Governance in the Middle East, UAE , Saudi, Qatar whatever way you call it, still the pockets of power rests with the clans and they still control territories and departments and governance.
Its the same clan control with extra steps, thats the democracy in the middle east.
Be it any nation in these parts, it will be too hard for the people and the government there to find a stable understanding to take the nation forward.

 

[Lost user]

Turkey state media actively negative about
Taliban

Ertrugul Ghazis next door in Pakistan won't like this..

 

[ezsasa]

micheal kugel bacha ISI’s Washington DC station chief’s beizzati ghor beizzati !!!

 

[MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00]

We shouldn’t just blame the US. What about India’s role in this failure. India didn’t even provide Afghanistan any support during the current war with Taliban. India didn’t provide any weapons or equipment to fight the Taliban. Afghans asked India if they can provide air support but India didn’t do anything. Why couldn’t India service those Mi-17s or Hinds since Indian Air Force has decades of experience with these kinds of aircraft.

 

[TejasMK3]

I really hope we had anticipated this and have planned for it (all that money invested....) . I think no one is surprised that something like this is happening, but what is interesting is the speed at which this is happening. How many fighters do they have, and if they are attacking so many provinces at once, wouldnt they be spread thin across? Also not fighting and withdrawing when there is a lot of equipment....something seems strange.

The cease fire we recently signed (as if these are honoured by Pakis), was to buy some peace for the time being on JK LoC, while they focus on AF region? What if some shots are fired, would that slow down and disturb them in AF?

Wont be surprised if they had some kind of symbolic victory ceremony on 9/11 just to rub it in to the U.S similar to the Saigon helicopter photo.

 

[ezsasa]

Afghans asked India if they can provide air support but India didn’t do anything.

afghan govt asked everybody, not just India. Maybe it’s not wise to presume that GoI didn’t have ear to ground in Afghanistan.

 

[MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00]

afghan govt asked everybody, not just India. Maybe it’s not wise to presume that GoI didn’t have ear to ground in Afghanistan.

But India didn’t provide any air support. The countries surrounding Afghanistan don’t like them so they are unlikely to support. India was the only true partner Afghanistan had in the region. So they asked for Indian support but India didn’t provide.
US trained Iraqi Army also had similar problems after they got overrun by ISIS terrorists but round the clock air support helped turn the tide.

 

[Lost user]

We shouldn’t just blame the US. What about India’s role in this failure. India didn’t even provide Afghanistan any support during the current war with Taliban. India didn’t provide any weapons or equipment to fight the Taliban. Afghans asked India if they can provide air support but India didn’t do anything. Why couldn’t India service those Mi-17s or Hinds since Indian Air Force has decades of experience with these kinds of aircraft.

Token Indian support would not have made much of a difference.. But, the fact that GOI could not muster the balls to provide even some meaningful support, so as not to antagonize the Taliban, tells us that we better not poo poo the Americans.. Atleast the Americans allowed ordinary Afghans to nurture some dreams for 20 years..

 

[Bhairav]

Token Indian support would not have made much of a difference.. But, the fact that GOI could not muster the balls to provide even some meaningful support, so as not to antagonize the Taliban, tells us that we better not poo poo the Americans.. Atleast the Americans allowed ordinary Afghans to nurture some dreams for 20 years..

India provided support where it was most needed that is in the UNSC. I just wonder if the Talib HCs sitting in Oman have no control over the Talibs on the ground, then why is the USA and even China conducting talks with them?!

 

[WARREN SS]

She is chameleon
Her only interest is to make india like South Korea and Japan
US Yes boys

I mean we want US alliance but as a equal partnership and mutual respect to our cultural legacies

We will achieve it when we cross 10 trillion $ barriers

 

[WARREN SS]

We shouldn’t just blame the US. What about India’s role in this failure. India didn’t even provide Afghanistan any support during the current war with Taliban. India didn’t provide any weapons or equipment to fight the Taliban. Afghans asked India if they can provide air support but India didn’t do anything. Why couldn’t India service those Mi-17s or Hinds since Indian Air Force has decades of experience with these kinds of aircraft.

It's not Afghans it Kabul regime to save it ass and power

The way AFGHANISTAN is falling

It's doesn't looks like Taliban has any good
Resistance from civilians

 

[DownWithCCP]

What about Indians in Afghanistan(diplomats or otherwise)?
Are they being evacuated?
What about Sikh minorities? Are they being brought to India?

 

[doreamon]

If this is true, and India still has'nt done anything to stop it... then God help us all

Our counter propaganda since 1947 has been unity in diversity , ganga jamuni tahazib , all religion leads to same goal , bollywood narration of nationalistic muslim , Songs dance ... blaming majoritarian reaction , showing muslims as victim/innocent , nt reporting many incidents or reporting selective incidents in media ... so that they ll see themselves as such etc .

Political islam which showed it might during pakistan movement is always a hidden threat .. I have hope on exmuslim movements that is going on in internet age . The knowledge is difficult to keep in tight confinement of mullah circles now .

Also muslims in USA are not redical like muslims of UK or subcontinent ... That thing i have nt understood yet .. needs a look whether usa grand narrative of individualism is responsible for this ..

 

[Cheran]

after the wire/Thapar gave air to Moped Yusuf of Piggystan, now NDTV:-

 

[ezsasa]

Paki NSA on CNN, everything he says is being lapped up without any counter questions.

always admire the connections paki establishment have with Murican establishment.

 

[Varoon2]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...esh-refugee-crisis-Taliban-sweep-country.html.

From the article: Gruesome killings by the Taliban


Adul's graphic photographs, shot on his mobile phone, showed appalling scenes of carnage from the site in Mohammad Agha district, about two hours south of Kabul, with women and children among those slaughtered.

Adul told MaiOnline that people suspected of working with the government, including his uncle, who was a judge were tortured and executed. Some were beheaded and their heads displayed on stakes, while others were thrown into a wheat threshing machine. His uncle was shot, then his body dragged around, wrapped in barbed wire.