Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

[ezsasa]

The American humiliation in Afghanistan is only temporary. Wait till Hollywood converts this surrender into a two hour intense film on how Matt Damon rescues a six year old Afghan girl from the den of a war lord with the help of a kind hearted Taliban soldier

 

[Lost user]

But now they do. In a video Major Arya said and i quote "The Talibs are no longer the same animals that used to live in Tora Bora, now they have tasted money and now they know how to make money. They have seen luxuries of life in Oman". Things are not going to be the same. eveybody has needs and the world has became more integrated and interconnected than ever even after the Wuhan Virus Pandemic.

So, Major Gaurav Arya is a geopolitical expert now.. ? The Taliban leadership based in Pakistan and Doha have tasted money and comfort, but the rank and file Taliban fighters are the same ideologically motivated, rural, hardy goat f*ckers..
You realize the kind of discipline it would take from Taliban field commanders and fighters to let go of the near certain prospect of total victory, to be part of some transitional government, just because their supposed leaders in Pakistani safe houses say so.. There would not be many professional armies in the world, who would stand down when total victory is so close..
Below is a quote from a noted Afghan journalist:
"The Taliban now fighting are young, hot-blooded, rigid. They're massively influenced by Al-Qaeda and these foreign fighters." - Journalist @bsarwary #Afghanistan

The rank and file Taliban, won't be fine with sharing power with a westernized unislamic Kabul government, whom they view with contempt..

 

[nWo 4 Life]

Zabul province is now under the Taliban now. Apparently, they have started a new operation called Operation Al-Fatah and they are going to take over the country as quick as possible. No rest or compromises or deals. One Taliban commander says they are going to reach Kabul by today evening.

Meanwhile, the oppression continues as yesterday in Balkh province, the Taliban killed a 21 year old girl for wearing Jeans under a veil.

 

[Lost user]

Ghor capital fell.

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars Two possibilities.

Either there is no mind in the ranks of generals in the ANA.

Or it's a brilliant strategy.

1 . Abodend the region can't hold.

2 . Regroup.

3 . Strech the enemy.

4 . Attack their supplies and logistics.

5 . The taliban mostly loots from the local for the supplies.

6 . Probably already the most of the warehouses where the grain are stored are already emptied by the ANA.

7 . And then when the enemy has exhausted most of their food supplies hit them hard.

8 . And decimate the talbian.

But again it's taliban. They are unpredictable like a conventional forces. This can work on a conventional forces but not the taliban.

 

[Cheepek]

Ya'll Nibbiars Two possibilities.

Either there is no mind in the ranks of generals in the ANA.

Or it's a brilliant strategy.

1 . Abodend the region can't hold.

2 . Regroup.

3 . Strech the enemy.

4 . Attack their supplies and logistics.

5 . The taliban mostly loots from the local for the supplies.

6 . Probably already the most of the warehouses where the grain are stored are already emptied by the ANA.

7 . And then when the enemy has exhausted most of their food supplies hit them hard.

8 . And decimate the talbian.

But again it's taliban. They are unpredictable like a conventional forces. This can work on a conventional forces but not the taliban.

Possible that there will be counter action, everyone is in Mazar E Sharif right now.

 

[Haldilal]

Possible that there will be counter action, everyone is in Mazar E Sharif right now.

Ya'll Nibbiars thats a classic Staregy. Only the drawback is that the civilians will suffer the most as the food supply are totally exhausted. But give a momentum as the taliban which dosent carry that much supplies with them and depends on the locals to get the supplies will be devastated. But again Taliban can go to any resort even killing the civilians to secure the hidden supplies.

 

[ezsasa]

Ghor capital fell.

have to consider the possibility that local city councils are mediating between Taliban and ANA for ANA safe withdrawal, to prevent their cities from becoming Syria type civil war situation.

Afghan citizens are not stupid to not realise that when super power like murica is negotiating a safe passage withdrawal with Taliban, It’s a no brainer that they too can negotiate safe passage withdrawal for afghan govt with taliban.

 

[Anandhu Krishna]

 

[ezsasa]

See.. Ghani is nobody now.. Whether he stays or goes makes no difference..

maybe it’s time to create a list of trusted sources of our own for this thread, just so that members don’t end up discussing pages and pages based on fake news.

 

[Lost user]

have to consider the possibility that local city councils are mediating between Taliban and ANA for ANA safe withdrawal, to prevent their cities from becoming Syria type civil war situation.

Afghan citizens are not stupid to not realise that when super power like murica is negotiating a safe passage withdrawal with Taliban, It’s a no brainer that they too can negotiate safe passage withdrawal for afghan govt with taliban.

US negotiating a safe passage withdrawal, and packaging it as some peace deal was the worst part.. US saying that it's OK to kill Afghan soldiers, if the Taliban don't kill US soldiers, is like UK telling Germany, that it's OK, to kill French soldiers but not British soldiers, during the Dunkirk evacuation in 1940.. Do the Americans have no sense of honor.. ? At the most a few dozen US soldiers would have been killed during the withdrawal, if there was no deal between the US and Taliban.. Are the lives of a few dozen US soldiers so important that you junk the credibility of a nation..? What signals does it send to US allies..? What if Russia closes the Suwalki gap through Belarus.. Will the US sacrifice thousands of American soldiers to claw back the baltics which are part of NATO..? Maybe it's the cultural decline that has turned Americans to the cowards they are..

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars once they had a Air force capable of air superiority and fully trained army. But now have to rely on militia and a air force can't be operated without contractors. The black hawks, tucano can't even carry out a COIN mission without the contractors.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Ya'll Nibbiars once they had a Air force capable of air superiority and fully trained army. But now have to rely on militia and a air force can't be operated without contractors. The black hawks, tucano can't even carry out a COIN mission without the contractors.

The Soviet trained afgan fauj was a different things altogether

 

[Lost user]

Rumors that Ismail Khan is taken captive by Taliban..

 

[Lost user]

My take is that Taliban leadership based in Pakistan, or even the ISI has not much control, on what's happening on the ground now in Afghanistan.. That Taliban fighters will not stop, even if the leadership in Pakistan tells them to...

 

[Haldilal]

The Soviet trained afgan fauj was a different things altogether

Ya'll Nibbiars still the Afghan Commando can resist the taliban onslaught. Kabul will fall today or tomorrow but by the December if nothing works. Or even October. Buy if somehow in the mazershariff they are able to hold. Then they can hold them for longer. But it's time either the ANA improvise their strategy of hand over what ever remains to the resistance to the taliban.

 

[Lost user]

Sh*t keeps getting worse..

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars there are still few generals from the ANA who were trained by the Soviets. There a chance they may mount resistance to buy some time. But can't win without external support as they don't have any COIN supports.

 

[Lost user]

Ya'll Nibbiars there are still few generals from the ANA who were trained by the Soviets. There a chance they may mount resistance to buy some time. But can't win without external support as they don't have any COIN supports.

Unlike after the Soviet withdrawal, almost all Afghan elites have a backup plan, where they have lives and property in rich Western nations. So, they won't fight the Taliban, the way, the communist regime fought the Mujahideen post Soviet withdrawal..

 

[MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00]

The Soviet trained afgan fauj was a different things altogether

I believe Soviet Trained Afghan Army were able to hold on to areas much longer without Soviet support against Islamist Militants and Taliban terrorists than the current American trained one. back then Afghan Army had real tanks and Afghan Airforce had real fighters jets.