Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

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It is not a laughing stock. I admit they are still naive to this all propaganda warfare but these mountain goats are now learning new ways of propaganda warfare and now they are trying to portray themselves as the legitimate gaurdians of Afghanistan. The normal people of Afghanistan do not know about these equipments and stuff.
Yeah, I said before, this shit is obviously propaganda. As a matter of combat, these guys don't know what the fuck they are doing.

Even their propaganda is as hollow as the images. It's the same Taliban who'll be fighting the same way they've been at it for the past 30 odd years.

They'll be caning women for reading and drafting young boys to join their ranks. They're feigning a sense of order, a sense of hope, civilization even. They're trying to present themselves as an alternative to the Afghan government.

Truth is, they're just a bunch of bloodthirsty Hajjis about to unleash hell on Afghanistan. They've done it before, they'll do it again.
 

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India should learn from its Past. we should try to repeat what we had done in Bangladesh but the reverse. instead of instigating a civil war, we should try to prevent it and only allow the ANA to fight and how they will fight it will be on us to decide.

An unstable Afghanistan will only make the situation worse. good and able people will try to flee Afghanistan and it will be left in rumbles and the faith of their people will be in the clutches of Talibs and Jihadists who will make them breed and fight like rats. An unstable Afghanistan will only strengthen them. Ashraf Ghani is making a very big mistake by pushing the country towards a civil war.
India is not instigating the civil war mate, Taliban are. Afghan govt not even party to “peace”negotiations between US & Taliban.

GoI has no say in what ever is happening on the ground in Afghanistan.

GoI is incapable of playing those kind of strategic games that you are assuming they are capable of.India’s Foreign ministry simply hasn’t recovered from IPKF shock.
 

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Yeah, I said before, this shit is obviously propaganda. As a matter of combat, these guys don't know what the fuck they are doing.

Even their propaganda is as hollow as the images. It's the same Taliban who'll be fighting the same way they've been at it for the past 30 odd years.

They'll be caning women for reading and drafting young boys to join their ranks. They're feigning a sense of order, a sense of hope, civilization even. They're trying to present themselves as an alternative to the Afghan government.

Truth is, they're just a bunch of bloodthirsty Hajjis about to unleash hell on Afghanistan. They've done it before, they'll do it again.
But those Hajjis are now governed by a sophisticated high command based in Qatar and Pakistan. now their commanders are no more some Ganja smugglers, they are now acting like professionals and diplomats. they now know more about propaganda and stuff and because most of the educated people of Afghanistan will escape to neighboring countries or USA or Europe, the people left behind will be the ones who have seen this before and for them it will be normal. the Afghan govt will lose the support of their people if there is any and will remain just what it is, Kabul Municipal Corporation.
 

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India is not instigating the civil war mate, Taliban are. Afghan govt not even party to “peace”negotiations between US & Taliban.

GoI has no say in what ever is happening on the ground in Afghanistan.

GoI is incapable of playing those kind of strategic games that you are assuming they are capable of.India’s Foreign ministry simply hasn’t recovered from IPKF shock.
I did not say India is instigating civil war in AFG, i said we should try to stop it. its the AFG govt that is pushing the country towards a civil war because their inexperienced and impotent commanders cant even protect their own people. What i am trying to express is that we should take the command and control of thier army in our hands and coordinate their efforts just like we did in 71. they are fighting in a very unprofessional manner and there is little or no coordination. If they want to defeat the Talibs they will have to mix and match different war and counter terrorism strategies, just like the Iraqis. bomb them when they are mobilising and apply counter terrorism strategies in urban areas.
 

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I did not say India is instigating civil war in AFG, i said we should try to stop it. its the AFG govt that is pushing the country towards a civil war because their inexperienced and impotent commanders cant even protect their own people. What i am trying to express is that we should take the command and control of thier army in our hands and coordinate their efforts just like we did in 71. until now they are fighting in a very unprofessional manner and their is little or no coordination. If they want to defeat the Talibs they will have to mix and match different war and counter terrorism strategies, just like the Iraqis. bomb them when they are mobilising and apply counter terrorism strategies in urban areas.
This is what POTUS Joe Biden said in his recent statement:

“We spent over $1 trillion over 20 years. We trained and equipped with modern equipment over 300,000 Afghan forces,” he said. “They’ve got to fight for themselves. Fight for their nation.”


It is their War and let them fight. India has realised this now after the US, so the aforementioned silence. India cant do much as it doesnt have direct airspaces or share a border. Afghanistan was always meant to be a battleground for superpowers.

In Fuedal Warlordship system, "who has the stick, has the buffalo".
 

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This is what POTUS Joe Biden said in his recent statement:

“We spent over $1 trillion over 20 years. We trained and equipped with modern equipment over 300,000 Afghan forces,” he said. “They’ve got to fight for themselves. Fight for their nation.”


It is their War and let them fight. India has realised this now after the US, so the aforementioned silence. India cant do much as it doesnt have direct airspaces or share a border. Afghanistan was always meant to be a battleground for superpowers.

In Fuedal Warlordship system, "who has the stick, has the buffalo".
I am also against to any direct military intervention by India but we should atleast provide them with Logistics, Intel and share the experience we have gained during these years. we have fought and defeated Jihadis in J&K, we have fought and defeated the separatists in the North East and we have successfuly contained the Naxals to some specific regions. we can guide them while sitting in AC offices in India.
 
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I did not say India is instigating civil war in AFG, i said we should try to stop it. its the AFG govt that is pushing the country towards a civil war because their inexperienced and impotent commanders cant even protect their own people. What i am trying to express is that we should take the command and control of thier army in our hands and coordinate their efforts just like we did in 71. they are fighting in a very unprofessional manner and there is little or no coordination. If they want to defeat the Talibs they will have to mix and match different war and counter terrorism strategies, just like the Iraqis. bomb them when they are mobilising and apply counter terrorism strategies in urban areas.
GoI got involved in bangladesh because of a refugee crisis triggered by Genocide of pak army, and the transport logistics to bangladesh was simplified because of being a next door neighbor.

the super power which spent 20 years and one trillion $ is not able to get enforce a peaceful outcome in that country, how will a country like India with zero successes in expeditionary military foreign policy will have any chance of success?

Simply put, Indian security establishment is incapable of such an operation.
 

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GoI got involved in bangladesh because of a refugee crisis triggered by Genocide of pak army, and the transport logistics to bangladesh was simplified because of being a next door neighbor.

the super power which spent 20 years and one trillion $ is not able to get enforce a peaceful outcome in that country, how will a country like India with zero successes in expeditionary military foreign policy will have any chance of success?

Simply put, Indian security establishment is incapable of such an operation.
But Pakistan is capable of those Ops?? a country 7 times smaller than us goes away with harboring terrorists that are threat to the whole world and yet there are no sanctions imposed on pakistan?? if we cannot provide any support to the Afghan govt we should atleast try to create a lobby of influential Afghans and create and support a loud and visible Afghan resistence community overseas. in the case of Balochistan we cant do much but here we are not only free to support them but we will also be appraised.
 

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But Pakistan is capable of those Ops?? a country 7 times smaller than us goes away with harboring terrorists that are threat to the whole world and yet there are no sanctions imposed on pakistan?? if we cannot provide any support to the Afghan govt we should atleast try to create a lobby of influential Afghans and create and support a loud and visible Afghan resistence community overseas. in the case of Balochistan we cant do much but here we are not only free to support them but we will also be appraised.
Yes, pak is capable because they are a security state. They think their entire existence depends on ensuring primacy of their security establishment over pak state.



Diplomatic support is a different matter, which is happening as evidenced by the UNSC meet on Afghanistan origanised by India few days ago. That will continue
 

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I am also against to any direct military intervention by India but we should atleast provide them with Logistics, Intel and share the experience we have gained during these years. we have fought and defeated Jihadis in J&K, we have fought and defeated the separatists in the North East and we have successfuly contained the Naxals to some specific regions. we can guide them while sitting in AC offices in India.

There is nothing unique that India brings to the table that China or even Russia can’t do better. Whether it is infrastructure, economy building, supply of goods or ammo supply.

Moreover, India has a reputation of not walking the talk. Remember the Chabahar port in Iran, which at one point was to rival Gwadar port? or the ambitious India-Myanmar-Thailand trilateral highway, which even 20 years later is still in a limbo?

The Taliban just like the Mujahideens before them, are sons of the soil with interest only in Afghanistan. Once they have control over most of the country, including Kabul, their priority will be to consolidate their power. Moreover, the Taliban of 2021 are not the same as their 1990’s predecessors.
 

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US Gov thinks Taliban cares two hoots about international opinion. Marxists have ruined US’s foreign policy from the inside with their mediocrity.
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If nearly 4 decades of presence, thousands of YOUR dead soldiers and civilians in Afghanistan couldn’t make you understand, and you’re waiting for Taliban to spell it out…

 

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US Gov thinks Taliban cares two hoots about international opinion. Marxists have ruined US’s foreign policy from the inside with their mediocrity.
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If nearly 4 decades of presence, thousands of YOUR dead soldiers and civilians in Afghanistan couldn’t make you understand, and you’re waiting for Taliban to spell it out…

Pakistan shouldnt simply get away with this. We must make them pay for what they had done to that beautiful country.
 

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Loc par topon ma muh kholde sena , bohot hua yuddhviram tatha vishram , ab punh sangram ka prarambh kare sena.
Mellachon ko saans nai Lane Dena chiye
This is not the perfect way to slap those Mallechas. Until the heat reaches the Punjabi Speaking Jenrayls of Pakistan and their children studying abroad their would be no damage done to the real culprits.
 

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