Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

[Srinivas_K]

That's not how geopolitics works.

Yes geopolitics works based on emotions

 

[Srinivas_K]

Taliban will inevitably control most of its historic Pashtun strongholds in South Afghanistan. But world powers should ensure that North and East Afghanistan do not succumb to the jihadi extremism.

Taliban cannot be sufficiently weakened in Pashtun dominated Afghanistan but again the Afghan Pashtuns are not a unified group. But they do all agree on opposing foreign occupation and wants a Pashtun Supremacy.

So the Partition of Afghanistan should be the best policy option to the United States and its allies.

Pakistan will definitely oppose the partition. Because Pakistan seeks a strategic gain once the U.S. military withdraws from Afghanistan.

Pashtun Afghanistan will again be a hotbed of international terrorism, a dangerous outcome that will engulf the region.

Russia already has started preparing, So should India...time is ticking fast.

The region will simmer for sure if Taliban establish as a power there in Afghanistan. Taliban do not even accept the durand line how come they accept partition.

 

[Jimih]

The region will simmer for sure if Taliban establish as a power there in Afghanistan. Taliban do not even accept the durand line how come they accept partition.

Stretch out Russia, Stretch out China.

Seems now to be a well planned strategy from Unkil Sam. I do believe it now.

 

[Srinivas_K]

Stretch out Russia, Stretch out China.

Seems now to be a well planned strategy from Unkil Sam. I do believe it now.

More like keeping the east on the toes.

 

[WARREN SS]

there are friends and then there are time tested friends in India's case.

Sight me example apart from USSR era

Chinese Raised Kashmir UNSC
France vetoed it not Russia

 

[Srinivas_K]

Sight me example apart from USSR era

Chinese Raised Kashmir UNSC
France vetoed it not Russia

It is because of Russia 1971 happened. There are many examples of it.

 

[MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00]

Well, I don't work in MEA to trust anyone or not. Taliban is the one which hacked IC814. Since there are little chances that Afghan government would survive, there is no point helping them.

And since we don't have direct borders with Afghanistan, we have to decide whether we can have normalised relations with a Taliban administered Afghanistan unless we choose to directly go hostile against them and face all geographic disadvantages.

There is no guarantee that Taliban will open up Central Asian routes for India. They can and will backstab India anytime. Taliban terrorists said the similar things in so called “Doha Peace Deal” that they are “willing” to come to negotiating table but nothing happened they immediately reversed everything the moment US said they are withdrawing. They will definitely open up Afghanistan to foreign terrorist groups because same Jihadi ideology and to create leverage against regional powers. I believe we will lose more soldiers if we let Taliban terrorists win in Afghanistan. The vast reaches of Afghanistan are perfect place train to thousands of Islamic terrorists send them in hordes against India.

 

[Lost user]

That's not how geopolitics works.

Trust takes decades to develop.. The current Afghan administration is a successor of the northern alliance.. As we do not have direct access to Afghanistan, and have to depend on Iran's benevolence, there is only so much India can do to alter the situation on the ground in Afghanistan..
But I hope we are doing much more than is publicly evident to assist our friends.. Credibility in geopolitics is built upon how you help your partners during hard times... How Russia and Iran, helped Assad beat back the US sponsored regime change plan in Syria, has made Russia's Credibility sky rocket.. And Credibility cannot be bought..
Even if it's a losing cause, India should do whatever little is possible, for the Afgham government..

 

[nWo 4 Life]

Amid all the horrible news of all the atrocities being committed by the Taliban, here's something that might inspire people:

A 70 year old former Mujahideen fighter, Yousuf Khan who fought against the Soviets posted up with his PK to fight against the Taliban in Herat.

There has been heavy fighting going on in Herat for a few days now. However, special reinforcements of the Taliban are going to reach there any time now. But Yousuf Khan refused to leave when children and the elderly were being evacuated saying, "This is my land. No Taliban's going to chase me off of it."

On being told that the Taliban reinforcements are only a few days away he says, "So? I have lived here for over fifty years. I'm not going to leave now. I've killed Soviets, I've killed Pakistanis, I've killed other enemies of Afghanistan, now I will kill the Taliban. I know where to hide and I know how to shoot. This is my land and I will fight for my land."

He might have been in the Northen Alliance.

AK slung on his back too.

Give them hell, old man.

 

[Suhaldev]

Taliban's interview to India today

 

[WARREN SS]

It is because of Russia 1971 happened. There are many examples of it.

Like I said you have no recent example except 50 years old one
And that was USSR totally different
Nation of what today's Russia is.
An economically dependent on Chinese monetary assistance

If we go by alliance US as SEATO member
Helped Pakistan more

USSR not only penetrate our internal Political spectrum but KGB agents infiltrated
Defense acquisition

Honey trapping out military officers was common
You are comparing Apple ND oranges

 

[Indx TechStyle]

It is because of Russia 1971 happened. There are many examples of it.

Like I said you have no recent example except 50 years old one
And that was USSR totally different
Nation of what today's Russia is.
An economically dependent on Chinese monetary assistance

If we go by alliance US as SEATO member
Helped Pakistan more

USSR not only penetrate our internal Political spectrum but KGB agents infiltrated
Defense acquisition

Honey trapping out military officers was common
You are comparing Apple ND oranges

It was same USSR which held back India from annihilating Pak in 1965. They supported India only after Indo-Soviet treat in 1969 and became indifferent again after treaty expired.

Their influence on Indian politics and generation communist groups across country is something unprecedented what US and China couldn't do.

 

[Srinivas_K]

It was same USSR which held back India from annihilating Pak in 1965. They supported India only after Indo-Soviet treat in 1969 and became indifferent again after treaty expired.

Their influence on Indian politics and generation communist groups across country is something unprecedented what US and China couldn't do.

1965 is a blunder on India’s part. They would have captured some territory and then went for negotiations.

 

[Jimih]

1965 is a blunder on India’s part. They would have captured some territory and then went for negotiations.

They did, but they let it go at Tashkent's round table.

 

[Srinivas_K]

Like I said you have no recent example except 50 years old one
And that was USSR totally different
Nation of what today's Russia is.
An economically dependent on Chinese monetary assistance

If we go by alliance US as SEATO member
Helped Pakistan more

USSR not only penetrate our internal Political spectrum but KGB agents infiltrated
Defense acquisition

Honey trapping out military officers was common
You are comparing Apple ND oranges

If there is any counter weight for China against India. It is Russia.

China is a perfect sandwich between two countries.

 

[WARREN SS]

If there is any counter weight for China against India. It is Russia.

China is a perfect sandwich between two countries.

Russians are puppets of Chinese policies u doesn't seems to see it.

And Geopolitical ambition to outweighs Western powers that cost them USSR

India is too insignificant for Russia when it comes to its Geopolitical ambition for counter weighting US and NATO

We are aligned are Ourselves to western Nations
That is totally opposite to Russia policies.

 

[Srinivas_K]

Russians are puppets of Chinese policies u doesn't seems to see it.

And Geopolitical ambition to outweighs Western powers that cost them USSR

India is too insignificant for Russia when it comes to its Geopolitical ambition for counter weighting US and NATO

We are aligned are Ourselves to western Nations
That is totally opposite to Russia policies.

70 % of Indian military hardware comes from Russia. India is buying S400 from Russia.

India is not a small country to choose sides. India chooses its own policy based on interests.

 

[WARREN SS]

I mean look at the language of Russian Envoy on kashmir
There language is meak on Indo Chinese tension.

There neutral stance against most important
Statergic concerns like kashmi.

Marginalization if india in Afghanistan
Failing are Doctrine

Alignment to Pakistan role in Afghanistan
Agreeing to Chinese centric Geopolitical ambition.

NO objection On OBOR project passing through
India

I can count on Multiple points were Russians ditched Indians

And Even though US is Self-serving has turned out to be more reliable partners than
Are "Vodka brothers"

Sorry today Like Pakistan who totally reliable on Chinese Assistance to their every Geopolitical roal.

Saving them in FATF , playing Kashmir bid in UNSC,
Military assistance, Monetary assistance.

India is in limbo when comes to out Geopolitical role.

 

[fooLIam]

70 % of Indian military hardware comes from Russia. India is buying S400 from Russia.

India is not a small country to choose sides. India chooses its own policy based on interests.

Its funny you say that, the fact that 70% of our hardware is imported is very much nail in the 'independent foerign policy'. India is importing weapons because we are not making ourself. No country is friend ,its always give and take when it comes to diplomatic relations.

 

[doreamon]

The region will simmer for sure if Taliban establish as a power there in Afghanistan. Taliban do not even accept the durand line how come they accept partition.

Who ll provide sea access to taliban .. certainly nt Iran after wht they ll do to shia population .. Who ll operate their drug trade ... weapon .. ammunition .. So taliban ll always be pakistani proxy and india wont have any liverage .. And chinese ll get their share in mining . Pakistan ll get its strategic security by crushing pastun nationalism . Afgan ll get their pure islamic rulling .. sharia etc ..


India shd lobby for removal of sanction from iran and be a bridge between iran usa .. We have a lots of stake there .. Starting from access to central asia , russia to energy security .