Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

[Knowitall]

They are not known to hold cities, they use hit and run tactics. I think Afghan president Ghani said Afghan govt. can handle the situation given the resources and support.

What are you on about? Do you even know anything about the civil war that was going on before the US invasion.

Taliban at it's peak had pushed well into the north and was already holding on to kabul. It was only through the intervention of US and its allies that the front finally collapsed.

 

[Srinivas_K]

What are you on about? Do you even know anything about the civil war that was going on before the US invasion.

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Taliban at it's peak had pushed well into the north and was already holding on to kabul. It was only through the intervention of US and its allies that the front finally collapsed.

Posting maps as if some one is going to do a deal with you for your achievement of grabbing territory of Afghans. The maps are not accurate.

 

[Knowitall]

Posting maps as if some one is going to do a deal with you for your achievement of grabbing territory of Afghans. The maps are not accurate.

Maps are not accurate lol.

What is accurate your baseless statements with no proof?

Come back with sources and not comedic statements.

 

[notaname]

It's a faulty one. The rotor blades are below the helicopter, if you look closely. As soon as the Taliban took control of the city and were approaching the airport, the Afghan forces removed the parts from the helicopter anticipating defeat.

Besides removing its rotor blades, they also incapacitated the helicopter by stripping it of its combat capabilities and engine.

The Taliban can't use it in its current state. At least someone in the Afghan military has some brains.

You seem to be have got wrong info mate, have a look at this

 

[nWo 4 Life]

You seem to be have got wrong info mate, have a look at this

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Hmmm, I read about this from Joseph Dempsey. He too said that the engine and main rotors had been removed, but the rotors could be seen below the helicopter. So he said it might not be for spare parts for other helicopters but they removed them intentionally to prevent the Taliban from using it. Possibly he is wrong, hard to know for sure.

 

[MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00]

Our first problem isn't about air strikes or ground attack. Taliban doesn't have any issues with India for now.

Dilemma is whether we want to make Taliban an enemy (they can Kashmir hell for India again, make it hell for Indian troops in Afghanistan if go powerful) or accept them as ruler. If Taliban intervenes in Kashmir, then it makes up a reason for India to jump against them in war.

For now, they will rather choose to ask aid from Indian government which India was providing to Afghanistan government earlier without bothering us. In a couple of months, Taliban will start to ask money from India like Afghan government used to.

We Have Nothing Against India and Need its Help to Reconstruct Afghanistan, Says Taliban Envoy

Are you actually trusting the words coming from a lslamic terrorist group? A terrorist group that is more evil than ISIS if you count the number of civilians and minorities they massacred or displaced. A Taliban controlled terrorist state is same thing as what ISIS had done in Iraq and Syria. Taliban terrorists already trains terrorists for Pakjabi terrorist groups and porkis inturn fund money back to Taliban from all drug trade which go through India and poisons India’s youth. so what is India trying to achieve here by trying talk to these monsters. The Islamic terrorists will backstab India and in end India will be the only one looking like fool. Taliban terrorists aren’t going to come and fight in J&K UT directly and even if they do come they will be slaughtered just like trashmiri and pakjabi vermin before them.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

Again

Russia and Pakistan are going to come closer together in near future. Russia and Pakistan are together collaborating to remove American forces out of Afg. With removal of American forces it will led to great power gap in middle east and taliban security threat will give Russian arms industry more business and more influence . Chinese dislike radical islamists and taliban threatens them too soo they would have wanted to keep talibs in check but porks have Russian backing and if some proposal to sanction Pakistan comes in UN cheen and Russia will veto it.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Are you actually trusting the words coming from a lslamic terrorist group? A terrorist group that is more evil than ISIS if you count the number of civilians and minorities they massacred or displaced. A Taliban controlled terrorist state is same thing as what ISIS had done in Iraq and Syria. Taliban terrorists already trains terrorists for Pakjabi terrorist groups and porkis inturn fund money back to Taliban from all drug trade which go through India and poisons India’s youth. so what is India trying to achieve here by trying talk to these monsters. The Islamic terrorists will backstab India and in end India will be the only one looking like fool. Taliban terrorists aren’t going to come and fight in J&K UT directly and even if they do come they will be slaughtered just like trashmiri and pakjabi vermin before them.

Well, I don't work in MEA to trust anyone or not. Taliban is the one which hacked IC814. Since there are little chances that Afghan government would survive, there is no point helping them.

And since we don't have direct borders with Afghanistan, we have to decide whether we can have normalised relations with a Taliban administered Afghanistan unless we choose to directly go hostile against them and face all geographic disadvantages.

 

[nWo 4 Life]

A suicide bomber detonated his bombed Humvee near the headquarters of government forces in the city of Lashkargah in Helmand province. According to sources, 15 police officers were killed and injured.

This is the main factor here. The Afghan soldiers and civilians don't want to die, whereas the Taliban is a terrorist jihadist organization that will go to any means to achieve its goals. Killing oneself in the name of Allah is their highest calling. These type of attacks therefore are going to be hard to defeat. Not only will one person kill dozens of others along with him in one suicide attack, these things weaken morale hugely and will create fear and panic among the people opposing the Taliban, which will naturally compel them to surrender instead of fighting. No matter what Ghani or the Afghan government may pretend, it's not going to be long now before the Taliban ousts them.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Russia and Pakistan are going to come closer together in near future. Russia and Pakistan are together collaborating to remove American forces out of Afg. With removal of American forces it will led to great power gap in middle east and taliban security threat will give Russian arms industry more business and more influence . Chinese dislike radical islamists and taliban threatens them too soo they would have wanted to keep talibs in check but porks have Russian backing and if some proposal to sanction Pakistan comes in UN cheen and Russia will veto it.

India should get out of afganistan completely , any way isn't india attending another meeting at doha

 

[Srinivas_K]

Alternately, you can make the isolate the countries which are supporting this and tighten the screws for their barbarism.

This is exactly is what is happening now. The more they try to meddle in foreign countries the more their future looks uncertain.

FATF black list and sanctions waiting it seems.

they cannot threaten neighbors using drug infested, radicalized and orphan Pashtuns to detonate themselves.

A suicide bomber detonated his bombed Humvee near the headquarters of government forces in the city of Lashkargah in Helmand province. According to sources, 15 police officers were killed and injured.

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This is the main factor here. The Afghan soldiers and civilians don't want to die, whereas the Taliban is a terrorist jihadist organization that will go to any means to achieve its goals. Killing oneself in the name of Allah is their highest calling. These type of attacks therefore are going to be hard to defeat. Not only will one person kill dozens of others along with him in one suicide attack, these things weaken morale hugely and will create fear and panic among the people opposing the Taliban, which will naturally compel them to surrender instead of fighting. No matter what Ghani or the Afghan government may pretend, it's not going to be long now before the Taliban ousts them.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

Well, I don't work in MEA to trust anyone or not. Taliban is the one which hacked IC814. Since there are little chances that Afghan government would survive, there is no point helping them.

And since we don't have direct borders with Afghanistan, we have to decide whether we can have normalised relations with a Taliban administered Afghanistan unless we choose to directly go hostile against them and face all geographic disadvantages.

Taliban and every other islamst nation feeds on Islam is under threat formula. Be it Indian Muslims which cry when Israel bombs Palestine or some thousands of EU Muslims which joined isis hard core Muslims will always come together when they will see Islam is under threat ( heck a African Muslim told me that we support Pakistan over india because it's a Muslim country).

It would be very difficult for Taliban to resist the urge to send troops to kashmir as their main funds provider China and Pakistan will force them financially and rest of the pressure of their ideology will make sure they end up in kashmiri graveyards and we to remember Taliban doesn't have a single identity nation grouping. It's controlled by different warlords no one knows who is control.

That's the biggest issue we can't trust anything which comes out of Talibans mouth.

 

[nWo 4 Life]

Alternately, you can make the isolate the countries which are supporting this and tighten the screws for their barbarism.

This is exactly is what is happening now. The more they try to meddle in foreign countries the more their future looks uncertain.

FATF black list and sanctions waiting it seems.

they cannot threaten neighbors using drug infested, radicalized and orphan Pashtuns to detonate themselves.

Which sanctions? UN? They have the backing of Russia, Iran and even China (at least for the moment) has their back. You can't really do much to them by trying to convince other countries or international organizations to do something about them.

Our best approach is to strengthen our defenses and think of new strategies and policies on how to handle them when they send their insurgents and jihadis to Kashmir and other places. Because, no matter what, after Afghanistan, the Taliban will come to India.

 

[pipebomb]

Russians are UNSC member a major military powerhouse in the world
It's still enjoys leverage in to global geopolitics

They are meaked by there economic constraints
But they arec still a very much a Globar power
Which even US fears

They are power players in every major aspect
Of geopolitics
Sriya ,Libya Turkey ,Afghanistan
North Korea, middle east

Single Authoritarian regime with Unaccountable
Leadership makes them dangerous player.

And that is why we can't junk our bilateral relationship with Russia to appease US, but neutralize undue russian leverage on our defence equipment by indigenization. Until then we can't deal with them on equal terms.

One fact should be beyond debate by now that we can not hold off china through imports. Or brandishing nuclear arms, we have creat our MIC very fast.

 

[nWo 4 Life]

we have creat our MIC very fast.

This. Unlike America, we NEED a military-industrial complex at all costs.

 

[Srinivas_K]

Which sanctions? UN? They have the backing of Russia, Iran and even China (at least for the moment) has their back. You can't really do much to them by trying to convince other countries or international organizations to do something about them.

Our best approach is to strengthen our defenses and think of new strategies and policies on how to handle them when they send their insurgents and jihadis to Kashmir and other places. Because, no matter what, after Afghanistan, the Taliban will come to India.

Haha, Taliban will dismatle pakistani before they come to India. Why hide your shaking shalwar's (or is it soiled salwars) behind Taliban?

Kiddo , you cannot even control your tribal areas you are talking about India.

Last time you tried your hit and run tactics, you ran to uncle sam for saving grace.

If there is any army which consistently lost the battles and wars, it is Pakistani army.

 

[nWo 4 Life]

Haha, Taliban will dismatle pakistani before they come to India. Why hide your shaking shalwar's (or is it soiled salwars) behind Taliban?

Kiddo , you cannot even control your tribal areas you are talking about India.

Last time you tried your hit and run tactics, you ran to uncle sam for saving grace.

If there is any army which consistently lost the battles and wars, it is Pakistani army.

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Okay, you have officially lost your mind. Not going to waste my time.

 

[WARREN SS]

Which sanctions? UN? They have the backing of Russia, Iran and even China (at least for the moment) has their back. You can't really do much to them by trying to convince other countries or international organizations to do something about them.

Our best approach is to strengthen our defenses and think of new strategies and policies on how to handle them when they send their insurgents and jihadis to Kashmir and other places. Because, no matter what, after Afghanistan, the Taliban will come to India.

Thousand of Pakistani soldiers sitting border
For 70 yrs
With all Military might

Taliban are like Rag tag militia

Best they can do is few suicide bombing
That already known to our agency
We are better prepared for what we were 30 years ago
Back when Gurkhas and Sikhs usually Slaughter
These rats daily with less resources

Pastuns were never like by Gujjars in kargil
Even kashmiri doesn't like them

Finally things our getting interesting
For RR let the Rats come

 

[nWo 4 Life]

Thousand of Pakistani soldiers sitting border
For 70 yrs
With all Military might

Taliban are like Rag tag militia

Best they can to is few suicide bombing
That already known to our agency
We are better prepared for what we were 30 years
Back when Gurkhas and Sikhs usually Slaughter
This rats daily with less resources

Pastuns were never like by Gujjars in kargil
Even kashmiri doesn't like them

Finally things our getting interesting
For RR let the Rats come

Their first target will be Pakistan. Regarding us, they are not stupid enough to even attempt conventional attacks with us. What they'll try is suicide bombings and covert terrorist operations. Would have to exterminate them, if we allow the Hooman Rights RR people to carry out their usual antics, then it's going to be disastrous.

 

[Spitfire9]

Since there are little chances that Afghan government would survive, there is no point helping them.

And since we don't have direct borders with Afghanistan, we have to decide whether we can have normalised relations with a Taliban administered Afghanistan unless we choose to directly go hostile against them and face all geographic disadvantages.

It is a big problem without a good solution.

No overwhelming force is going to try to remove a Taliban regime. The overwhelming force is pulling out. I imagine that a lot more people will die if the Taliban face determined resistance - some in battle, some when a victorious Taliban executes its defeated opponents.