Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

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For example:

Afghan Defense Ministry: 439 Taliban terrorists were killed and 77 militants were injured as a result of operations by Afghan security forces in the provinces of Nangarhar, Laghman, Logar, Paktia, Uruzgan, Zabul, Gor, Farah, Balkh, Helmand, Kapisa and Baghlan in the past 24 hours.

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This would suggest that the ANA is actually doing pretty good and driving out the Taliban, though who knows if it's accurate or not.
 

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You are very wrong in this statement. Afghan war accelerated the fall of Soviet Union along with the Cold War with US.
Soviet economy was falling way back in early 80's
Soviet states already in Dis erray
Influenced by Western democracies

USSR always on Ticking time bomb
Undermining the local ethnic groups
Injecting them with Marxism never been
A successful phenomenon.


There were always ethnic and political animosity amoung various groups
That combine with Failed leadership in later years

There fall was inevitable.

Even if there will be no coldwar.
 

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True..
Russian version is their concern on India US and the pacific, quad etc...thats just the smoke.. blah blah blah
but the reality is Russia is in chinese pockets.
Russia likes to play the both sides.

On one hand they are conducting exercises with India and in the other hand they are conducting exercises with China.



 

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Russia likes to play the both sides.

On one hand they are conducting exercises with India and in the other hand they are conducting exercises with China.



These are all gimmicks so that
Russian state run industrial complex
Don't loose indian military contracts

And maintenance support contracts

Russian Geopolitical goals are more aligned with Chinese OBAR and even Pakistan

There Geopolitical stand on every issue from kashmir to Indo Chinese tension is Neutral to Chinese centric.


Hell even we participated with Chinese military in joint exercises for years

Ultimately having a bloody skrimish killing
Each other soldiers.

 

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Soviet economy was falling way back in early 80's
Soviet states already in Dis erray
Influenced by Western democracies

USSR always on Ticking time bomb
Undermining the local ethnic groups
Injecting them with Marxism never been
A successful phenomenon.


There were always ethnic and political animosity amoung various groups
That combine with Failed leadership in later years

There fall was inevitable.

Even if there will be no coldwar.
Iam all aware about the points that you have mentioned above. And they are correct to some extent.

Soviet Union was bound to fail from the start. They were pushing their version of communism to the Muslim majority regions in the union. They did this with Afghans. Although Afghanistan was not in the Union.

Americans, the shrwed they are, didnt loose the oppertunity to hit back at its adversary. They raised and armed the millitia Mujhaideen to topple the Communist regime at that time.

Soviet-Afghan war was a part of the Cold War, remember the US version of war was all about containing Communist Russia and outplaying them. And they did with the dissolution of Soviet Union.
 

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Due heavy reliance on Russian equipment, they have an undue leverage on us which manifest itself on these kind of situation where our strategic interests are not aligned with them. This is unhealthy for our bilateral relationship.

Instead of addressing this problem we keep on aggravating it by going for ak103, ka226, fmbt(or whatever its called) etc.

Indigenisation is our ticket out
 

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These are all gimmicks so that
Russian state run industrial complex
Don't loose indian military contracts

And maintenance support contracts

Russian Geopolitical goals are more aligned with Chinese OBAR and even Pakistan

There Geopolitical stand on every issue from kashmir to Indo Chinese tension is Neutral to Chinese centric.


Hell even we participated with Chinese military in joint exercises for years

Ultimately having a bloody skrimish killing
Each other soldiers.
Thats why I wrote, "they play both sides", dont you think that anyone in DFI doesnt know about what you posted above about their MIC and Chinese centric Geopolitical goals? It is clear as glass.

What Russia can offer to anyone except Military Hardware and Natural Gas?
 

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Iam all aware about the points that you have mentioned above. And they are correct to some extent.

Soviet Union was bound to fail from the start. They were pushing their version of communism to the Muslim majority regions in the union. They did this with Afghans. Although Afghanistan was not in the Union.

Americans, the shrwed they are, didnt loose the oppertunity to hit back at its adversary. They raised and armed the millitia Mujhaideen to topple the Communist regime at that time.

Soviet-Afghan war was a part of the Cold War, remember the US version of war was all about containing Communist Russia and outplaying them. And they did with the dissolution of Soviet Union.
More or less US play it bits but

Soviet economy and ethnic tensions was major reason
that can disintegrate any nation
Like USSR

Had USSR adopted Chinese Free market model
They would have survived the points I mentioned.

Economy is always top reason

When citizens reap The economic benefits
From the state all problem goes into back burner.
 

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Thats why I wrote, "they play both sides", dont you think that anyone in DFI doesnt know about what you posted above about their MIC and Chinese centric Geopolitical goals? It is clear as glass.

What Russia can offer to anyone except Military Hardware and Natural Gas?
Russians are UNSC member a major military powerhouse in the world
It's still enjoys leverage in to global geopolitics

They are meaked by there economic constraints
But they arec still a very much a Globar power
Which even US fears

They are power players in every major aspect
Of geopolitics
Sriya ,Libya Turkey ,Afghanistan
North Korea, middle east

Single Authoritarian regime with Unaccountable
Leadership makes them dangerous player.
 

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More or less US play it bits but

Soviet economy and ethnic tensions was major reason
that can disintegrate any nation
Like USSR

Had USSR adopted Chinese Free market model
They would have survived the points I mentioned.

Economy is always top reason

When citizens reap The economic benefits
From the state all problem goes into back burner.
Why did the the Soviet economy failed in the first place? werent they competing with the United States in all aspects?

Ofcourse they didnt had/followed the free market model.

China is a fast learner they studied the Cold War and adapted well for their fight against the US, which commentators all around the world now termed it as Cold War 2.0. They are now aware that without the economic might they cant topple the US hegemony and be a complete superpower. And that is their ultimate aim.

Ethnic tensions were bound to happen, Communists being the "godless" cant force their idealogy to other believers. With fall of Soviet Union and Russia returning to orthodox christianity things has definitely eased out.
 

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Why did the the Soviet economy failed in the first place? werent they competing with the United States in all aspects?

Ofcourse they didnt had/followed the free market model.

China is a fast learner they studied the Cold War and adapted well for their fight against the US, which commentators all around the world now termed it as Cold War 2.0. They are now aware that without the economic might they cant topple the US hegemony and be a complete superpower. And that is their ultimate aim.

Ethnic tensions were bound to happen, Communists being the "godless" cant force their idealogy to other believers. With fall of Soviet Union and Russia returning to orthodox christianity things has definitely eased out.
Well Communist state control is the
Best reason it failed

Rest you answered this point in your point itself
Not adopting Free market economy

Reason why India economically failed
Until it's model economic collapse in 1990

Then Emerges Economic policy that created a modern india of 2021
Given economic freedom to invidual for choice
.
 

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Taliban HMMWVs and Navistar 7000 series flying the white standard. As per sources the Taliban has well over 1,500 HMMWVs, Ford Rangers, and Navistar trucks, which were all captured from the ANA in recent months. Giving the ANA equipment and military hardware is just an indirect way of transporting it to the Taliban.

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Taliban doing a little trolling by posing for a picture in the uniform of former Afghan VP Abdul Rashid Dostum after they ransacked his home during the fall of Sherberghan.

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Meanwhile Marshal Dostum on a high in the morning
Way things are going it wont be surprising if we get news of his mutilated corps hanging from some lamp post a few weeks from now.
 

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Way things are going it wont be surprising if we get news of his mutilated corps hanging from some lamp post a few weeks from now.
I would have to agree. Their Army has become a joke, no match for the Taliban anymore. Their only hope is the Afghan Air Force now, and even then it would take a miracle for them to turn things around.
 

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I would have to agree. Their Army has become a joke, no match for the Taliban anymore. Their only hope is the Afghan Air Force now, and even then it would take a miracle for them to turn things around.
Things are lost , it .
May ve easy to capture a city but to recapture it is a mess.
Plus all those desertions etc plus huge cache of equipment etc ?
India should provide SAMs to taliban to establish a relation ship with them
 

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