Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

[Jimih]

Baba is in another dimension

What we saw yesterday in Afghanistan was a childish attempt of information and psychological warfare. Footage from Syria, UK and US were widely shared as if in were Panjshir.

But thanks to internet, all were instantly debunked.

 

[Jimih]

Now this call for a Revolution, Panjshiris and Tajiks will not tolerate disrespect to their Dear Leader

 

[ezsasa]

The proxy takeover of Afghanistan by Pakistan has now spawn a generation of Afghans who will be remain utterly bitter against them.

The new generation of Afghanistan will never forget what treachery Pakistan did to them. There will be repercussions and Pakistan should be ready to face it in not so distant future.

Since yesterday night, processions against Pakistan in Afghanistan is in all time high and it will spread all over the country. Pakistan has now just kicked a Hornet's nest.

Need to keep in mind that Kabul is not Afghanistan and Afghanistan is not Kabul. it’s been the case since Afghanistan was a kingdom. those photos of skirt Wearing afghan women from 60’s and 70’s (that libtards use for their female empowerment narrative) are from only in a part of Kabul not even entire Kabul.

the protest images that we are seeing in western media are manufactured protests against the state(Taliban state), not so different from our own CAA protests backed by the same global libtards.

we should learn to able to distinguish between western scripted protests and natural protests.

for example: if a afghan protest is having placards written in English, then perhaps it is for western NGO consumption. why does a Taliban need to be communicated in English, when they can perfectly communicate with each other in local language?

 

[Jimih]

Turkey isnt happy either on Taliban's antics

 

[The Shrike]

What I am observing these days that, Institutional anger in US against Pakistan is now at an all time high.

Both within intelligence & administration community, the anger against Pakistan is growing and is coming out in the open like never before. It is unprecedented.

And as @ezsasa rightly mentioned that, there exists a pro-pak and a pro-afghan lobby in DC. The Pro-Afghan lobby is now royally pissed upon Pakistan.

Any examples? Analysts like that body builder Jeff Smith, Cristian Fair aunty have been crying about Paxi perfidy for a long time but they have close to no influence on US policy. Its people (or rather ) like Lindsey Graham and his democratic party equivalents that will really give a good indicator of what US is going to do next.

 

[Jimih]

Need to keep in mind that Kabul is not Afghanistan and Afghanistan is not Kabul. it’s been the case since Afghanistan was a kingdom. those photos of skirt Wearing afghan women from 60’s and 70’s (that libtards use for their female empowerment narrative) are from only in a part of Kabul not even entire Kabul.

the protest images that we are seeing in western media are manufactured protests against the state(Taliban state), not so different from our own CAA protests backed by the same global libtards.

we should learn to able to distinguish between western scripted protests and natural protests.

for example: if a afghan protest is having placards written in English, then perhaps it is for western NGO consumption. why does a Taliban need to be communicated in English, when they can perfectly communicate with each other in local language?

You may be right about the manufactured protests, but that doesnt nullify the Afghan's genuine dislike for the Pakistanis.

And this hatred will now amplify, not stopping.

 

[Jimih]

Any examples? Analysts like that body builder Jeff Smith, Cristian Fair aunty have been crying about Paxi perfidy for a long time but they have close to no influence on US policy. Its people (or rather ) like Lindsey Graham and his democratic party equivalents that will really give a good indicator of what US is going to do next.

Go through this discussion

 

[ezsasa]

You may be right about the manufactured protests, but that doesnt nullify the Afghan's genuine dislike for the Pakistanis.

And this hatred will now amplify, not stopping.

sure, no disagreement on this.

I’ll put it in another way. from an Indian self interest point of view, goals of manufactured protests will be in line with objectives of sponsors of the protests.

if we are not sponsoring those protests, can’t have expectations that outcome of those protests will have India’s interests in mind. Ultimately protests are done to meet political objectives.

 

[mandestiny]

Pakistan engineered its outcome with $1.6k per capita and 1/10th our GDP.

Yes, are you willing to pay the same cost as Pakistan paid?

Nahin humko nahin chahye. We are happy what we have, just need to be more secured.

 

[tarunraju]

Yes, are you willing to pay the same cost as Pakistan paid?

Yes, because it's the same cost America, Soviets, Britts, French, and chicoms, paid when they funded insurgencies across the globe.

No UNSC-P5 member got there playing by the rules. They got there by breaking them...and on a large scale.

Delhi is foolish enough to think that by being a rules-abiding country, someone will pull out the P5 chair for them. Bullshit. You invade every single country around you for sheer sport, and slaughter people by the tens of millions, to even pass the screening test for UNSC permanence. Germany and Japan stand a much better chance at this.

If Pakistan was India's size (and India was Pakistan's), Pakistan would be a UNSC-P5 member by now.

 

[hit&run]

When your analysis fails start distributing hope or karma curses.

Last time when asked why Pakistan has been taking risk without caring much about world opinion no one came to answer it. The key is right here in this question to decode what is happening now in our region and Afghanistan.

What India has been doing make perfect sense and one can write detailed analysis on the advantages of our strategic restraint.

Current government has been quite better than previous because it has tweaked our strategic restraint to calculated response. They have added an overt dimension to their action which has not only helped us brought about peace (relative) in Kashmir, tricked them to yield Kartarpur corridor (was expect from its beneficiaries not to see it) and improved internal security situation manifold.

This is such a silly proposition to fight a low intensity war on our borders which is being responded with similar intensity. These people do not even understand escalation ladder of a limited low intensity war. There is a dead end after escalating it to artillery.

The topping on the cake of this sillyness is suggesting knee jerk reaction now in Afghanistan when people like me were screaming their lungs out to build multiple Cantonment zones in Afghanistan for last 10 odd years.

All so called hawks who have never read, Mao, Jinnah, Iranian revolution were blinded by their colonised Hindu minds are still scared of taking risks. Leave alone colonisers, we are still scared of Mughals who perished centuries ago.

Many reminds me of those loud courtiers of Porus who told him to stay neutral when Persia was ransacked by Greeks.

Always confront monsters before they start chasing you.

The lack of institunalized response; media run by clowns or traitors, leadership bogged down by election cycles and citizens with no strategic vision but personal point scoring; nothing seems to have any connection. Sab apna apna lage hui hain.

Now we have only two options; overt response to internal security challenges and covert sabotage to enemy interests. The current government is anyhow doing it. Therefore there is no need to run our imagination amok.

 

[WARREN SS]

Pakistan engineered its outcome with $1.6k per capita and 1/10th our GDP.



Nahin humko nahin chahye. We are happy what we have, just need to be more secured.

We twice engineered same thing in our neighborhood
It's about political will

Bangladesh and srilanka is examples

Had Indian Leadership doesn't backed out supporting LTTE in late 1980s
We might had been dominating that island

 

[Knowitall]

You mean to say they should be allowed to get away with Quadcopter strikes on Jammu AFS, dropping arms in Punjab & now the next level deployment of armed drones in Panjshir... if it is ok & that's allowed to happen then we are accepting a new normal which would be disastrous for us.

Next what? armed drone strikes in srinagar to help "freedom fighters" or on Indian bunkers on LOC for easy conveyance of Jihadis... or in very near future use of EW version of the Turkish ANKA drones to jam the communications of our forward companies on LOC to segregate & ambush them.

Escalate or ....!

waise iss heated argument ka koi faayda nahi

A saying "Give me 10 good men & I will impregnate the bitch"

The Paki bitch has already been impregnated. Wait for the results.

That's not the point.

The point is will ve bomb pakistan to support NA in Afghanistan.

Jammu base incident is something that Is long over now so we won't be picking that up.

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

We twice engineered same thing in our neighborhood
It's about political will

Bangladesh and srilanka is examples

Had Indian Leadership doesn't backed out supporting LTTE in late 1980s
We might had been dominating that island

In Sri Lanka both their civilian government and LTTE was against us. We were fighting the LTTE, while the campaign was subverted by Sri-Lankan president himself, who ordered their own army to supply intelligency and arms to the LTTE.

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

How realistic is it for us to strike them via air?

Strike whom? Taliban? We have nobody on the ground directing airstrikes and have a hostile Pakistani Airspace in the way. Even if we manage to pass through hostile Paki airspace, we will reach the other side and not know who or what coordinate to hit at what time. Even if we strike one place, we can't keep a persistent presence there without Tajikistan allowing us access to their airbase. Which they won't without permission from Russia. Which Russia won't give because if they wanted to, they could have done this job themselves. They won't come out in open against Taliban.

 

[ezsasa]

When your analysis fails start distributing hope or karma curses.

Last time when asked why Pakistan has been taking risk without caring much about world opinion no one came to answer it. The key is right here in this question to decode what is happening now in our region and Afghanistan.

What India has been doing make perfect sense and one can write detailed analysis on the advantages of our strategic restraint.

Current government has been quite better than previous because it has tweaked our strategic restraint to calculated response. They have added an overt dimension to their action which has not only helped us brought about peace (relative) in Kashmir, tricked them to yield Kartarpur corridor ( was expect from its beneficiaries not to see it) and improved internal security situation manifold.

This is such a silly proposition to fight a low intensity war on our borders which is being responded with similar intensity. These people do not even understand escalation ladder of a limited low intensity war. There is a dead end after escalating it to artillery.

The topping on the cake of this sillyness is suggesting knee jerk reaction now in Afghanistan when people like me were screaming their lungs out to build multiple Cantonment zones in Afghanistan for last 10 odd years.

All so called hawks who have never read, Mao, Jinnah, Iranian revolution were blinded by their colonised Hindu minds are still scared of taking risks. Leave alone colonisers, we are still scared of Mughals who perished centuries ago.

Many reminds me of those loud courtiers of Porus who told him stay neutral when Persia was ransacked by Greeks.

Always confront monsters before they start chasing you.

The lack of institunalized response; media run by clowns or traitors, leadership bogged down by election cycles and citizens with no strategic vision but personal point scoring; nothing seems to have any connection. Sab apna apna lage hui hain.

Now we have only two options; overt response to internal security challenges and covert sabotage to enemy interests. The current government is anyhow doing it. Therefore there is no need to run our imagination amok.

Taliban Commander to Protesting Afghan Women: You have no documentary evidence and we do not need Pakistan to bomb Panjshir valley.

Protesting women: So what is the head of the Pakistan ISI doing here?

All Women chant "Death to Pakistan".

 

[WARREN SS]

In Sri Lanka both their civilian government and LTTE was against us. We were fighting the LTTE, while the campaign was subverted by Sri-Lankan president himself, who ordered their own army to supply intelligency and arms to the LTTE.

That was not the case india leaders backed stabbed LTTE and done a peaceful deal with Srilankan govt

Indo-Sri Lanka Accord - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Read the reason for IPKF intervention in Srilanka

 

[Lost user]

Turkey isnt happy either on Taliban's antics

All leaders in the proposed government seem to be Pashtun/Pathan.. No turkic, Kazakh, or Tajik in important positions..
The inclusive government rhetoric is just that..

 

[mandestiny]

That was not the case india leaders backed stabbed LTTE and done a peaceful deal with Srilankan govt

Make our govt in neighboring countries, nothing else required.

 

[Lost user]

Meanwhile.. Indian idiotic news channels.. repeating Balakot folly

Indian news channel @TimesNow has broadcast a clip of an American F-15 flying in Wales and claimed it is proof of a "full fledged Pakistani invasion" of Afghanistan.