Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

[Stalingrad]

Whatever amount we Invested there are all gone.

Do u seriously think they are going to b|ast the bloody dam, parliament etc to smithereens? They are not going to do jirga panchayat under banyan tree, and store water in ponds.
We invested in infra- HR, however small it might be the returns will have a positive impact in Afg. And no we didn't lose our investment, just that the caretaker changed in case of our infra. HR, yes it was a hit, not for us but the poor Afghans, and ain't that the case with most nations which spent $ for restructuring?

People need to stop whining as if we are the sore losers in Afg.
Afg populace lost an opportunity to go as far away from 7th cen. Pakis today are happy at the misery of Afg, when are they not!

No worry about spillover either. Whoever comes here will be Tandoori-ed, that's certain.

 

[Srinivas_K]

Things unfolding are favourable to India as well.

Have been going through the posts since early morning today. Lots of ppl on forum are in despair (some masking their glee as despair) as if all is lost n game over..... curtains for India. Fact is that the situation is an evolving one and it's going to continue remaining fluid for times to come. Let them come out of the shooting match first (Mulla Barathar vs Haqqanis) n decide the government. Whichever ways it goes, it's going to be a stillborn. Simplistically put:
Scenario 1 - Akhundzada with Barathar as deputy. Rumor: The Haqqanis are not ready to accept Akhundzada as the supreme leader. That's probably only one of the reasons for shooting.
Result- Haqqanis will work to undermine Akhundzada n Barathar.
Scenario 2 - Haqqanis have their way.
Result - Barathar faction would work to undermine Haqqanis.
Please note (As per my understanding):
1. Barathar faction - Indo US sphere of influence.
2. Haqqanis - Sino Pak sphere of influence.
3. If some think NA is dead n buried. Think again. They would additionally be in play, whichever scenario of the two plays out.
4. Chinese investment or any investment cannot bear fruit in an unstable environment. Example being CPEC.
5. China is silent cuz it's obviously playing through Pak. India n Russia are silent cuz they r mature enough to understand that boots on ground ain't a feasible solution for either countries so they r being subtle but very much playing it.
6. Kinetic ain't the only way to fight such a war. You only play to maximise the gains out of a cluster foxtrot. Infact if somebody plays to win here, he loses.
7. The dump left behind by Americans ain't going to tilt any scales, neither conventional nor nuclear. Only thing it helps in doing is further destabilise Afghanistan and Pakistan.
8. Any misadventure by Pakis to try n divert them to our side,would be met by punishing pre-emptive and/or retaliatory (overt/covert).

 

[Srinivas_K]

I agree with him, time for Indian strategic response.

 

[Stalingrad]

Is this acc not compromised yet?

Translation : "Freedom".

 

[Stalingrad]

I agree with him, time for Indian strategic response.

Baba concurs. He activated Farkhor - Ayni and Campbell Bay.

 

[FalconSlayers]

 

[SavageKing456]

Time to take actions against times now and republic media channels these do more harm than good.

 

[srevster]

To dear members,

What the fck do you want India to do?

Some here want India to get in a full blown war with Pak and China to open a supply route to Afghanistan through GB. As if Northern Alliance is trapped in Wakhan territory and not in Panjshir! Why the hell should India spend upwards of $10-12 billion at minimum in an uncertain war to reach a region that too is under Taliban control and get embroiled in a unconventional war against an enemy that has mastered the tactics in last 2 decades? Not to mention our own supply line will remain under constant threat through a hostile newly conquered territory by one of the major military powers of the world as well as another strong conventional force and its irregulars. And don't forget that the infrastructure in PoK and GB is so rudimentary, that even if we manage to win the area and hold it, we will face uphill battle to send sufficient amount of supply through that region from India.

And, all that to create a supply line to support a resistance in Panjshir at Afghanistan where the situation remain fluid?

I mean I have seen my share of craziness in this forum, but it definitely takes the cake?

As for Tazik airbase. India most likely doesn't maintain any fighter fleet there and even if they did, that fleet can't swoop in to support Panjshir where the airspace is owned by PAF now. Again, to deter PAF from attacking our fighter fleet in Afghanistan, we would have to assault PAF in our IB, which would again see all international player wetting themselves for fear of Nuclear fall out and India would be forced again, to restrain itself. India would lose face and would have to pay in diplomatic coins and for what gain?

If India attacks Pakistan, it will be a bloody battle and when I am in all support for that, the reason can't be for trivial reason as supporting Afghanistan resistance. It is September here and in a few months, winter will set in. If you think Indian Army will start a campaign in mountains of PoK and GB in September, you gave to be crazy!

we want India to create a clear ten year plan of strategy and execute it without fear.

what does India want from China, Russia, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran?

you can’t say nothing. These are powerful countries in our neighborhood. Simply putting our head in the sand and being caught off guard by world events isn’t kosher with me. India needs a clear policy and it’s internal interests which it is willing to shed money, blood and energy for. Creating a neighborhood in our own image is a path forward to superpower status. Every super power has done this. USA, Japan, Russia.

 

[Cheepek]

Let's see what happens first. Will Afghanistan become Pakistan or will Pakistan become Afghanistan?

 

[srevster]

Let's see what happens first. Will Afghanistan become Pakistan or will Pakistan become Afghanistan?

Why not engineer one outcome instead of waiting and watching?

 

[Cheepek]

Why not engineer one outcome instead of waiting and watching?

Not easy to "engineer" an outcome with $2k per capita.

 

[jackprince]

we want India to create a clear ten year plan of strategy and execute it without fear.

what does India want from China, Russia, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran?

you can’t say nothing. These are powerful countries in our neighborhood. Simply putting our head in the sand and being caught off guard by world events isn’t kosher with me. India needs a clear policy and it’s internal interests which it is willing to shed money, blood and energy for. Creating a neighborhood in our own image is a path forward to superpower status. Every super power has done this. USA, Japan, Russia.

That's a goal for long term. I talked about the demand of some guys here to put Indian boots on ground.

Afghanistan is a trap. It is better to stay clear of it.

 

[Srinivas_K]

Baba concurs. He activated Farkhor - Ayni and Campbell Bay.

It is not about bases, I think you should remember Pakistan wanted talks with India repeatedly. Now
Pakistan successfully pissed of Tajiks and central Asian republics by brutal kidnappings and killings.
Just for info. Resistance did not die last night. Their leadership is intact and are getting funding.

No self respecting nation supports or even toes the line of radicals. Pakistan just went and poured petrol on the fire I think the fire will engulf Pakistan soon.

the idea that some how Pakistan can control the terrorists is a delusion . The countries who are staying quite now know deep down that Pakistan cannot be trusted and Pakistan is the arsonist, expect Pakistan’s isolation to continue and countries will not show sympathy for Pakistani establishment. Since last night proved that Pakistan is the real terrorist in this region.

 

[Srinivas_K]

If resistance has will to fight Countries will find them and will give what ever weapons they need.

estimated budget for this is 5 Billion, this include media ops, setting up manufacturing facilities, airforce maintenance.

this includes paradropping of soldiers into valley.

 

[Srinivas_K]

Time to take actions against times now and republic media channels these do more harm than good.

they are doing good job, the rag tag militants and opportunist fox Pakistan are not what they show themselves. They will run the moment they taste the defeat to the same caves from which they came up.

the media ops are to justify Indian actions that are going to be taken in future. People should understand why India fights wars.

 

[Knowitall]

I've stopped counting on Modi for any more big ideological payoffs. Right now this government's instinct appears to be to show the world that it can defend itself. It's an overly defensive strategic posture. Rolled up like an armadillo. It thinks the Democrats are after this government.

Ideally, Modi should heat up LC+IB to throw pakis off gear, keep the chicom border fully manned, sanction daring acts of sabotage deep inside pakistan, and make India's presence felt. This will also keep taliban on the backfoot as they'll not know what the Indians are up to. He should also defy the Biden administration and resume buying oil/gas from Iran. Start calling bluffs. Before all this, he should start blocking foreign SM, blunt their ability to carry out information warfare, and crush this ticket shitshow. Front-foot pe khelo warna pele jaaoge.

Defy the US?

Good luck with that. It took a bit of meddling by the US for modi to directly intervene and unban an NGO engaged in anti India activities.

We pretty much let go of chabahar under US pressure and later on threw russia away too and paid the price for it.

India would not break the ceasefire on its own without any reason as it helps us concentrate on china which infact was a major reason we even agreed to such nonsense in the first place.

The best course of action is to make it clear that any attack originating from anywhere in Afghanistan will result in pakistan facing 10x the damage.

Hit them hard hit them publicly and after a few attacks they themselves will start keeping the terrorists at bay.

 

[Srinivas_K]

Defy the US?

Good luck with that. It took a bit of meddling by the US for modi to directly intervene and unban an NGO engaged in anti India activities.

We pretty much let go of chabahar under US pressure and later on threw russia away too and paid the price for it.

India would not break the ceasefire on its own without any reason as it helps us concentrate on china which infact was a major reason we even agreed to such nonsense in the first place.

The best course of action is to make it clear that any attack originating from anywhere in Afghanistan will result in pakistan facing 10x the damage.

Hit them hard hit them publicly and after a few attacks they themselves will start keeping the terrorists at bay.

Iran did not want chahbahar to get operationalised.

 

[another_armchair]

Defy the US?

Good luck with that. It took a bit of meddling by the US for modi to directly intervene and unban an NGO engaged in anti India activities.

We pretty much let go of chabahar under US pressure and later on threw russia away too and paid the price for it.

India would not break the ceasefire on its own without any reason as it helps us concentrate on china which infact was a major reason we even agreed to such nonsense in the first place.

The best course of action is to make it clear that any attack originating from anywhere in Afghanistan will result in pakistan facing 10x the damage.

Hit them hard hit them publicly and after a few attacks they themselves will start keeping the terrorists at bay.

Our standard response saw a paradigm shift with Balakot.

People can only keep second guessing our response but in the end we decide when, where and with how much force we hit back. I think it is a pretty good strategy in ensuring the enemy can't game our response.

That is why I rate Modi Govt very highly for their Balakot response.

Our post Galwan response was also praise worthy given nobody in the Quad has even come close to what we did.

 

[SavageKing456]

they are doing good job, the rag tag militants and opportunist fox Pakistan are not what they show themselves. They will run the moment they taste the defeat to the same caves from which they came up.

the media ops are to justify Indian actions that are going to be taken in future. People should understand why India fights wars.

By showing clips of video games?
Lmao that's embarrassing and idiotic.
You don't do information/narrative warfare like that.

 

[shade]

>Indian boots on ground in Afghanistan

Just let them stew, eventually there is going to be a 2-way or 3-way power struggle between Haqqani faction, the Baradar faction and some rag tag coalition made up of hazara/uzbek/tajik.

Also the Amer-i-Cunts may have removed their own boots on the ground, but that doesn't mean they won't encourage in glow-niqqery to secure their "interests"

As it is with that cursed country since 100 years, the inhabitants always lose after whatever version of the Great Game has concluded.