Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Well,I'd say we would be better not helping them,remember the kanglus,we helped them and what is the result?
They're now even more radicalized than pakis.

This idiot is showing his face now? Wow
Just wow he should flee to Tajikistan if he can .Resistance is done taliban wins.

 

[Srinivas_K]

Where is INDIA? The perfect time for boots on the ground is NOW. We need STRONG support. AFG under total Taliban control is the biggest threat to India.

Time is up for none-interference policy, in fact it is a dead warrant & surrender to terrorism that is sworn to destroy INDIA!

Kaka doesn't seem to understand that boots on ground in the world's shithole is not as simple as running a gofundme campaign sitting in the States.

One thing is for sure, India will not sit idle this time.

 

[tarunraju]

One thing is for sure, India will not sit idle this time.

I've stopped counting on Modi for any more big ideological payoffs. Right now this government's instinct appears to be to show the world that it can defend itself. It's an overly defensive strategic posture. Rolled up like an armadillo. It thinks the Democrats are after this government.

Ideally, Modi should heat up LC+IB to throw pakis off gear, keep the chicom border fully manned, sanction daring acts of sabotage deep inside pakistan, and make India's presence felt. This will also keep taliban on the backfoot as they'll not know what the Indians are up to. He should also defy the Biden administration and resume buying oil/gas from Iran. Start calling bluffs. Before all this, he should start blocking foreign SM, blunt their ability to carry out information warfare, and crush this ticket shitshow. Front-foot pe khelo warna pele jaaoge.

 

[Srinivas_K]

I've stopped counting on Modi for any more big ideological payoffs. Right now this government's instinct appears to be to show the world that it can defend itself. It's an overly defensive strategic posture. Rolled up like an armadillo. It thinks the Democrats are after this government.

Ideally, Modi should heat up LC+IB to throw pakis off gear, keep the chicom border fully manned, sanction daring acts of sabotage deep inside pakistan, and make India's presence felt. This will also keep taliban on the backfoot as they'll not know what the Indians are up to. He should also defy the Biden administration and resume buying oil/gas from Iran. Start calling bluffs. Before all this, he should start blocking foreign SM, blunt their ability to carry out information warfare, and crush this ticket shitshow. Front-foot pe khelo warna pele jaaoge.

They are waiting for the right moment.

Not only India even Iran, Russia and China are in the same posture.

Last night it would have been a good statement if India came out and supported Panjshir civilians and issued a statement that India is cancelling the ceasefire agreement with Pakistan.

 

[jackprince]

If India was like the chinese , pakistan would have disappeared in 1965 / 1971,

IMHO , look how the chinese went to war against US in north korea , chinese had no problem with half million dead chinese soldiers. and now they have a buffer state ( north korea ) between them and US ally south korea.
They can use north korea to prick japan - US and south korea .

we should have defied US+Soviets+China and cut pakistan down , merged kashmir. almost all the foreign problems we face now would have disappeared. afghanistan wouldnt have fallen to talibans , etc etc.

That is the fun of being the master in a dictatorship, you can bloody well do anything regardless of the cost. The leaders in democracies aren't so fortunate.

Nonetheless, Indian political leadership had always been weak kneed before western powers. Once the psyche has set in the character of a state, it is bloody difficult to shrug off the tradition. Unlike China, India always stressed on minimal loss and minimal impact of foreign wars in domestic arena. The result is Nehru running to UN in 1947, not allowing the IAF to bomb the shit out of Chinkies in '62, Indira Gandhi handed over victory to Pakistan in Shimla agreement, Vajpayee not allowing IA to cross IB - all are the signs that Indian military had always been let down by the political masters.

Even today, we refused to fuck up PAF after they intruded into India and tried to bomb our army base in J&K in 2019.

We basically don't have the guts to use our muscles.

 

[Jimih]

Oli has been replaced, but chicom stranglehold over Nepalese politics hasn't.

Sirji, was missing your posts on DFI.

You took a long hiatus.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

That is the fun of being the master in a dictatorship, you can bloody well do anything regardless of the cost. The leaders in democracies aren't so fortunate.

Nonetheless, Indian political leadership had always been weak kneed before western powers. Once the psyche has set in the character of a state, it is bloody difficult to shrug off the tradition. Unlike China, India always stressed on minimal loss and minimal impact of foreign wars in domestic arena. The result is Nehru running to UN in 1947, not allowing the IAF to bomb the shit out of Chinkies in '62, Indira Gandhi handed over victory to Pakistan in Shimla agreement, Vajpayee not allowing IA to cross IB - all are the signs that Indian military had always been let down by the political masters.

Even today, we refused to fuck up PAF after they intruded into India and tried to bomb our army base in J&K in 2019.

We basically don't have the guts to use our muscles.

Then why build muscles is a question i ask.
Can you tell me why we should?

 

[jackprince]

Then why build muscles is a question i ask.
Can you tell me why we should?

Because unless we have that muscle, our political leadership would be sucking chinky thumbs.

 

[Kumata]

Pakistans situation in near future...their open support will come back to haunt them ...

 

[Srinivas_K]

That is the fun of being the master in a dictatorship, you can bloody well do anything regardless of the cost. The leaders in democracies aren't so fortunate.

Nonetheless, Indian political leadership had always been weak kneed before western powers. Once the psyche has set in the character of a state, it is bloody difficult to shrug off the tradition. Unlike China, India always stressed on minimal loss and minimal impact of foreign wars in domestic arena. The result is Nehru running to UN in 1947, not allowing the IAF to bomb the shit out of Chinkies in '62, Indira Gandhi handed over victory to Pakistan in Shimla agreement, Vajpayee not allowing IA to cross IB - all are the signs that Indian military had always been let down by the political masters.

Even today, we refused to fuck up PAF after they intruded into India and tried to bomb our army base in J&K in 2019.

We basically don't have the guts to use our muscles.

India hits where it actually hurts the enemy, the issue is the enemy takes the beatings ,cries in private and then comes smiling infront of media.

 

[Coalmine]

 

[aystle]

In this Afghanistan scenario, Practically India neither share border with Afghanistan nor Indian boots had presence their officially.
But India is the only looser here on both sides.

 

[Tuco]

In this Afghanistan scenario, Practically India neither share border with Afghanistan nor Indian boots had presence their officially.
But India is the only looser here on both sides.

Why?

 

[Jimih]

In this Afghanistan scenario, Practically India neither share border with Afghanistan nor Indian boots had presence their officially.
But India is the only looser here on both sides.

Someone should post an Opinion Poll on DFI, titled 'Indian Boots on ground in Afghanistan, required or not'?

with options Yes and No

And check the responses.

 

[aystle]

Why?

Whatever amount we Invested there are all gone.
What we achieved after August 15 ? or will achieve in next 6 months still have no idea!!

 

[Jimih]

Whatever amount we Invested there are all gone.
What we achieved after August 15 ? or will achieve in next 6 months still have no idea!!

India did charity and not investment.

India didnt seek anything in return.

 

[Brood Father]

India didnt lost anything except the perception of regional power and aspiring super power. The changes going on our neighborhood and we don't have any stakes gives you the idea

Moreover northern sector has become a crisis with both the neighbors have become openly hostile and now with a terror rouge force under thier thumb will be a tough situation to say the least.

 

[INDIAFIRST]

In this Afghanistan scenario, Practically India neither share border with Afghanistan nor Indian boots had presence their officially.
But India is the only looser here on both sides.

India will not loose it....and let porkis do what they are if they come to east they will be fucked royally let them do bachabazi with gori brothers

 

[Dessert Storm]

Have been going through the posts since early morning today. Lots of ppl on forum are in despair (some masking their glee as despair) as if all is lost n game over..... curtains for India. Fact is that the situation is an evolving one and it's going to continue remaining fluid for times to come. Let them come out of the shooting match first (Mulla Barathar vs Haqqanis) n decide the government. Whichever ways it goes, it's going to be a stillborn. Simplistically put:
Scenario 1 - Akhundzada with Barathar as deputy. Rumor: The Haqqanis are not ready to accept Akhundzada as the supreme leader. That's probably only one of the reasons for shooting.
Result- Haqqanis will work to undermine Akhundzada n Barathar.
Scenario 2 - Haqqanis have their way.
Result - Barathar faction would work to undermine Haqqanis.
Please note (As per my understanding):
1. Barathar faction - Indo US sphere of influence.
2. Haqqanis - Sino Pak sphere of influence.
3. If some think NA is dead n buried. Think again. They would additionally be in play, whichever scenario of the two plays out.
4. Chinese investment or any investment cannot bear fruit in an unstable environment. Example being CPEC.
5. China is silent cuz it's obviously playing through Pak. India n Russia are silent cuz they r mature enough to understand that boots on ground ain't a feasible solution for either countries so they r being subtle but very much playing it.
6. Kinetic ain't the only way to fight such a war. You only play to maximise the gains out of a cluster foxtrot. Infact if somebody plays to win here, he loses.
7. The dump left behind by Americans ain't going to tilt any scales, neither conventional nor nuclear (from Indian POV). Only thing it helps in doing is further destabilise Afghanistan and Pakistan.
8. Any misadventure by Pakis to try n divert them to our side,would be met by punishing pre-emptive and/or retaliatory (overt/covert).
* The scenarios presented are the two obvious ones playing out as of now. There may be more.

 

[FalconSlayers]