Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

[another_armchair]

Things were very bad during Khalida Zia.. NE groups were provided with tactical support .. Many subverive anti india activities were going on .. ISI made a very strong presence in bangladesh during that time .. Its a time bomb waiting to explode again and this time it cld be worse . We have to prepare for that . If Bangladesh become hostile and it comes to military intervention as u say then whole gain of 1971 becomes delegitimized ..

If Khalida Zia's BNP captures power in Bangladesh, expect China to have a massive footprint in the country along with ISI.

Will be nothing short of a nightmare for us. We don't have a great deal of leverage over the rabid Islamist Bangladeshi's. They don't see reason beyond a FMJ. The Jamaat-e-Islami has enormous leverage over Indian and Bangladeshi Muslims. It will be an 'all hands on deck' situation for Indian establishment again. The honey moon with Sheikh Hasina won't last forever.

 

[another_armchair]

Can you provide some incidents about that khalida zia era ?
I mean how hostile the situation really was

It can be best described as S.N.A.F.U - Situation Normal All Fucked Up.

 

[doreamon]

Can you provide some incidents about that khalida zia era ?
I mean how hostile the situation really was

Read abt ten truck arm case .. It happened with collusion of ISI , china and BNP . Smuggling of arms to NE was high .. Many times some anti india elements used to use Bangladesh to escape .

Edit : in ten truch arm case 4,930 different types of sophisticated firearms; 27,020 grenades; 840 rocket launchers, 300 rockets, 2,000 grenade launching tubes; 6,392 magazines; and 1,140,520 bullets were being smuggled to India for ULFA ..

 

[chetan_chpd]

You know, Pakistan's take-over of Afghanistan could serve as a nice blueprint for India's take-over of Nepal. They used Islam (as an excuse, not ideology), we'll use Hindu-nationalism. The ingredients are there. Just need some balls in Delhi.

It will be a perfect tit-for-tat (Pakistan chasing out NATO from Afg compared with India chasing out maoist communism from Nepal). Chicoms can't support Nepal tactically.

not possible! Hinduism as mixture of theologies with a lots of "à la carte" options cannot produce the level of hatred like the "other one" does!

 

[Mikesingh]

Sir , I have a question.
Do we really keep fighter squadrons there as of now ?
I dont think so

At present? Well, that info is not for public consumption!!

 

[Srinivas_K]

The govt is not sitting idle by maintaining the ceasefire with pakistan despite their actions in Afghanistan.

We have been forced into this situation.

The reason govt is unable to light up the LOC to put pressure on pakistan to some extent is because of the pressure that we face on our eastern borders with china.

Most of army us currently locked in a tense standoff with the PLA and has been constantly moving in more supplies and troops since last year.

Simply put we do not have enough resources to maintain two hot borders at the same time and the govt has done a great deal to work under the threshold of a direct conflict.

Escalation and miscalculation at LOC might put us in a direct two front confrontation which is something we are not prepared for.

It was only after the bulk of our army had shifted to the east did pakistan start redeploying it's troops towards the Afghan border.

Finally lack of any credible allies sealed the last few options we had.

We were in no situation to help the NA directly at any point and our only hope was other regional players who turned their back on us.

Not correct, India gave the cease fire agreement and did not attack.

Chinese are a non player in this.

India can light up Sindh border or can attack Sialkot.

What ever ISI behaviour people are seeing vis-a-vis Panjshir is a trap in itself. US and west left the space only to engage the eastern countries like China, India and Russia through these radical sunny groups.
We can expect the same behaviour in the coming days I mean back to the era of terror attacks in India by ISI backed terrorists from now on.

And the message from the west is one can hold western people as hostage and take over South Korea or Taiwan.

This has more to do with emerging Asia and they want put a check using these groups.

 

[The Shrike]

Fact that we rejoiced when IA inducted SiGs shows how woefully inadequate we are in terms of equipment.

Even if they do manage to articulate it well, will MoD oblige and even if they do, will it be the exact same equipment matching the specifications described or will MoD change it to suit the 'budget constraints' at home where Missus and kids have a long wishlist?

We are making progress compared to UPA but are still woefully slow. All small arms and infantry level equipment should have been procured within the first 3 years of NDA if indirect taxes numbers are to be looked at separately but hey, toilets bhi toh banana tha na? Then the dozens of welfare yojanas to bring votes.

Equipment doesn't bring votes. Instead, a few dead soldiers at the border raises the patriotism pitch to a new crescendo.

It needs to be articulated to the public (not our feckless politicians or worse babus) in such a way that it costs votes in elections - thats the only currency that matters in the end in a democracy.

Re Sigs, you don't even have to go to small arms, we had to run to the US to get their winter clothing. Just think about it, the US which would only need this in case of a Russian invasion of Iceland, Alaska, or Nordic countries OR in case they decide to invade Russia in the winter, had ten's of thousands of winter clothing sets to spare, while India, who's 100% or disputed borders are in mountainous terrain, who has been manning high and super high altitude posts throughout winter in Siachen and Kargil for decades, suddenly discovers that it does not have the required winter ware for the troops required even in one sector of one front?

 

[Srinivas_K]

Released an audio

Resistance is regrouping , Taliban will face the brunt of Tajiks for what they have done to the Panjshir.

 

[Covfefe]

What ever ISI behaviour people are seeing vis-a-vis Panjshir is a trap in itself. US and west left the space only to engage the eastern countries like China, India and Russia through these radical sunny groups.
We can expect the same behaviour in the coming days I mean back to the era of terror attacks in India by ISI backed terrorists from now on

Well, then it need not end well for the West necessarily. The next 911(after the Afghan fiasco, it's not a matter of 'if' but 'when') may be 'motivated' by these Asian countries to say them 'Hello' in Europe or N America or Australia or UK. After all, we are all "kaafir"s. If 'Murica can prop up ETIO or LeT, who is to stop the funding of ISIS-K or AQ or HN.

 

[Srinivas_K]

I am not sure why these Sunni radicals are enjoying the company of China and Russia.

Soviets put a check on Islamic fundamentalism in it’s former republics.

China just finished off Islam in Xingxiang and gearing up for Afghanistan and Pakistan.

 

[Srinivas_K]

Well, then it need not end well for the West necessarily. The next 911(after the Afghan fiasco, it's not a matter of 'if' but 'when') may be 'motivated' by these Asian countries to say them 'Hello' in Europe or N America or Australia or UK. After all, we are all "kaafir"s. If 'Murica can prop up ETIO or LeT, who is to stop the funding of ISIS-K or AQ or HN.

All of them are a creation of ISI, except AQ.

The policy of west is use these radicals for strategic purpose but never let these groups to stand on their own. Interesting times ahead for sure.

I am liking it.

 

[tarunraju]

not possible! Hinduism as mixture of theologies with a lots of "à la carte" options cannot produce the level of hatred like the "other one" does!

Not as an ideology, as an excuse.

Taliban used Islam as an excuse, they overpowered the ANA as NATO left. Once they saw the regime has changed, the mango-Afghans played along with Taliban's "liberation" BS. The Indian strategy will be to overpower Nepalese defenses (yes, I include the famed Gorkhas) under the pan-Hinduism excuse. Once they know the regime has changed, they'll play along.

Other than some internal legislative changes, Modi is yet to make a mark on the world stage (which could make India's weight felt). This could be it.

 

[aarav]

people here are having meltdown over nothing ,afghanistan's value for india was to exploit bakis insecurity, 3 bomb blast by TTP & 2 by baloch groups after taliban takeover shows baki propaganda will fall flat now even for aam abduls & TTP & BRAS will continue the good work against bakjabi elite, some who expected an intervention are living in fool's paradise ,with no safe supply line IA going would have been a literal suicide move or at the mercy of forces through which supply lines go,hence who say its much better to fight jihadis in af-pak rather than on LoC grossly mistaken,the sustainability of jihadi state with no real economy & incoming humanitarian crisis will keep taliban preoccupied for short to mid term & those who say that minerals will keep economy stable ,for returns to meet at this sector there needs to be largescale investment with no gains in short to medium term hence India is no way loosing anything infact bakis will have very serious long term losses if taliban fails to sustain the nation ,it still hasn't announced its government you see it in serious predicament if it include minorties & women ,hardliners will move to ISKP & if it doesn't no international aid

 

[mokoman]

Republic TV Runs Video Game Clip As Pakistani Airforce Attacking Panjshir | BOOM

BOOM found that the footage aired by Republic TV and Zee Hindustan is from the video game Arma-3

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pakistanis are having fun pumping out these fake news and everyone is eating it up.

Amazing , ISI+Pakistani army teamed up with talibs - fucked west , and got away with it . no repurcussions so far .

 

[tarunraju]

Well he has been replaced now.

Well timed trip to Nepal by our R&AW Chief.

Oli has been replaced, but chicom stranglehold over Nepalese politics hasn't.

 

[Mikesingh]

Unconfirmed report: Resistance Front shoots down Pak chopper with Pak NSG. Watch this space for confirmation.

 

[tarunraju]

Unconfirmed report: Resistance Front shoots down Pak chopper with Pak NSG. Watch this space for confirmation.

Ghafooriya cyber-abduls are typing away on overdrive. Don't fall for any of this. Panjshir is gone.

 

[ClawReed787]

Republic TV Runs Video Game Clip As Pakistani Airforce Attacking Panjshir | BOOM

BOOM found that the footage aired by Republic TV and Zee Hindustan is from the video game Arma-3

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pakistanis are having fun pumping out these fake news and everyone is eating it up.

Amazing , ISI+Pakistani army teamed up with talibs - fucked west , and got away with it . no repurcussions so far .

Republic and times now joke . I can't even watch arnab for a minute. What a shitshow debate he does.

 

[Stalingrad]

Where is INDIA? The perfect time for boots on the ground is NOW. We need STRONG support. AFG under total Taliban control is the biggest threat to India.

Time is up for none-interference policy, in fact it is a dead warrant & surrender to terrorism that is sworn to destroy INDIA!

Kaka doesn't seem to understand that boots on ground in the world's shithole is not as simple as running a gofundme campaign sitting in the States.

 

[SavageKing456]

Where is INDIA? The perfect time for boots on the ground is NOW. We need STRONG support. AFG under total Taliban control is the biggest threat to India.

Time is up for none-interference policy, in fact it is a dead warrant & surrender to terrorism that is sworn to destroy INDIA!

Kaka doesn't seem to understand that boots on ground in the world's shithole is not as simple as running a gofundme campaign.

Well,I'd say we would be better not helping them,remember the kanglus,we helped them and what is the result?
They're now even more radicalized than pakis.