Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

[Kumata]

Let us see it happen. I don't see any harm coming their way after they were let off not once but twice for attacking the WTC.

The Headley saga only reaffirms the fact that the whore and her client can never be separated completely. They will keep meeting up now and then for a quickie all for old times sakes.

Same as India and Russia which pisses off Langley no end.

Ours and russian was different per se TBH. Rest all, well Put

 

[mokoman]

Agreeing to a ceasefire when we had just managed to turn the tide in 1965 and we were just outside Sialkot.

Sometimes wonder if Russia managed to extract more in return than it offered to India.

If India was like the chinese , pakistan would have disappeared in 1965 / 1971,

IMHO , look how the chinese went to war against US in north korea , chinese had no problem with half million dead chinese soldiers. and now they have a buffer state ( north korea ) between them and US ally south korea.
They can use north korea to prick japan - US and south korea .

we should have defied US+Soviets+China and cut pakistan down , merged kashmir. almost all the foreign problems we face now would have disappeared. afghanistan wouldnt have fallen to talibans , etc etc.

 

[IndianYonko]

Critisizing US for the debacle is true , they fucked up Afghanistan . But why blame them for Indian interest collapse.
It's us who don't have a definite foreign policy , we still flip flop between US , Russia and even non alignment under the garb of some non existent autonomy .
US is clear about their interest , our interest was based on piggy backing US so much so that we did not even had a back up plan for such debacle

But we also don't want to have a security partnership with US by allowing US boots on Indian soil.
Its us to blame period not anyone else and now is the time to choose , either Russia or US and choose firmly because when chips are down like today we will dance alone like headless chickens blaming others for the mess

Criticising US won't do a thing, I agree, but our interests were too tightly linked with US existing in Afg. We cannot expect to break a deal with talibaan. And once US left, no one was there to stop talibaan, we all saw that.

US or Russia, nah, Russia has already played its card and has already given us enough signals. It would be really dumb on our part, if we trust Russia any further. And US, well US is US, at any point it can take a big U turn.

 

[Brood Father]

The govt is not sitting idle by maintaining the ceasefire with pakistan despite their actions in Afghanistan.

We have been forced into this situation.

The reason govt is unable to light up the LOC to put pressure on pakistan to some extent is because of the pressure that we face on our eastern borders with china.

Most of army us currently locked in a tense standoff with the PLA and has been constantly moving in more supplies and troops since last year.

Simply put we do not have enough resources to maintain two hot borders at the same time and the govt has done a great deal to work under the threshold of a direct conflict.

Escalation and miscalculation at LOC might put us in a direct two front confrontation which is something we are not prepared for.

It was only after the bulk of our army had shifted to the east did pakistan start redeploying it's troops towards the Afghan border.

Finally lack of any credible allies sealed the last few options we had.

We were in no situation to help the NA directly at any point and our only hope was other regional players who turned their back on us.

Yes, as of now we cant take any risk as both of our borders are hot and unless we have credible backing we can't do shit.
On the hindsight agreeing for ceasefire with Pakistan was the stupid move , again our Babus and gernails like foresight ..

 

[Brood Father]

Criticising US won't do a thing, I agree, but our interests were too tightly linked with US existing in Afg. We cannot expect to break a deal with talibaan. And once US left, no one was there to stop talibaan, we all saw that.

US or Russia, nah, Russia has already played its card and has already given us enough signals. It would be really dumb on our part, if we trust Russia any further. And US, well US is US, at any point it can take a big U turn.

Then we are in a pickle. In that case keep low and don't do anything stupid because one thing is certain , Pakistan knows how to fuck up and Taliban is strong now . Five years down the line who knows what will happen.

 

[Kumata]

What happened to those statements from rawat that we can very well manage 2 front war!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[FalconSlayers]

 

[Brood Father]

What happened to those statements from rawat that we can very well manage 2 front war!!!!!!!!!!!

So what do you expect him say that we can handle one front but if two fronts are open then we will lose !!
Every gernail will say this. This statement is for media and public consumption.

 

[ezsasa]

Credible?

nope.

 

[Covfefe]

What happened to those statements from rawat that we can very well manage 2 front war!!!!!!!!!!!

Doesn't mean we have to go looking for it. Defence on two fronts is different from offence-defence combo on either end. Economically, we are going to be in a sweet spot now.
Like Israelis say- the war will be over the day Arab start loving their children more than they hate ours. We don't have to be the proverbial Arabs.
Pakis will celebrate for a while with sweeping statements from Qureshi and DGISPR, and then they will fuck it up. And this time, there is more gunpowder around- we just need to light the right matches from time to time

 

[Knowitall]

What happened to those statements from rawat that we can very well manage 2 front war!!!!!!!!!!!

He won't say otherwise. No general we say such a thing but it does become evident with our actions.

India's shift toward IBG's and rapid mobilization was mostly facilitated due to to such concern's.

One of rawat's statement "we need to finish the war with pakistan in 10 days" or its of no use pretty much sums up th matter.

If India gets bogged down in pakistan without a decisive victory we will be let into a battle of attraction and industrial might which puts us at a serious disadvantage.

 

[Kumata]

He won't say otherwise. No general we say such a thing but it does become evident with our actions.

India's shift toward IBG's and rapid mobilization was mostly facilitated due to to such concern's.

One of rawat's statement "we need to finish the war with pakistan in 10 days" or its of no use pretty much sums up th matter.

If India gets bogged down in pakistan without a decisive victory we will be let into a battle of attraction and industrial might which puts us at a serious disadvantage.

Well, in current scenario, IMO, 10 days would be too many to pound porkies and get them on knees . Don,t want to make a chest thumping statements per se but prokis are at most vulnerable so far in my opinion...we had same fear in 1971 as well of monkeys opening a new front in NE but the subtle pounding of 67 kept them in check.. this when US egged them to open a front in NE....We had a similar situation now.. they had the reminder in galwan and they won;t open a front to support some thing like porkis... remember kargil when Musharraf was caught with pants down in Beijing.... situation is no different...

 

[The Shrike]

To be completely honest, had it been the case when I was in college, my grades would have been much better.

bencho, I wasted too much time staring at my crushes (a new one in every class) than listening to the professors!

Naah, instead you would have been looking out of the window admiring the grazing goats and sheep.

 

[hit&run]

Melt down thread.

Go homes ladies. We lost nothing we gained noting because we invested nothing.

Let them fight it out. Enjoy the show.

Don’t let internal Congi apologists use it to score over current government. These snakes must not be allowed to run amok because they will creat confusion after blunting us all those years.

Good Night, Sweet Dreams.

 

[Jimih]

Released an audio

 

[Knowitall]

Well, in current scenario, IMO, 10 days would be too many to pound porkies and get them on knees . Don,t want to make a chest thumping statements per se but prokis are at most vulnerable so far in my opinion...we had same fear in 1971 as well of monkeys opening a new front in NE but the subtle pounding of 67 kept them in check.. this when US egged them to open a front in NE....We had a similar situation now.. they had the reminder in galwan and they won;t open a front to support some thing like porkis... remember kargil when Musharraf was caught with pants down in Beijing.... situation is no different...

That's not why the Chinese were kept outside it was the massing of Soviet troops along their border that made them reluctant to help pakistan despite US pressure.

Times have changed now CPEC is important for china and it's plans in central Asia and the elimination of pakistan will put them in situation where India will be able to concentrate the entirety of its forces towards them which is simply unacceptable to them.

Pakistan was not a big part of chinese calculus in the last few decades as china itself was slowly emerging as a regional power.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Ours and russian was different per se TBH. Rest all, well Put

Husband wife? You said it's different that's why I asked.

 

[Jimih]

Taliban under pressure to include non-Pashtuns, technocrats. If they don’t, expect international isolation, internal resistance.

 

[Kumata]

That's not why the Chinese were kept outside it was the massing of Soviet troops along their border that made them reluctant to help pakistan despite US pressure.

Times have changed now CPEC is important for china and it's plans in central Asia and the elimination of pakistan will put them in situation where India will be able to concentrate the entirety of its forces towards them which is simply unacceptable to them.

Pakistan was not a big part of chinese calculus in the last few decades as china itself was slowly emerging as a regional power.

Let us disagree else it will not in diff direction !!

 

[ezsasa]

Srilankan Tamil population turning against india, ethnic cleansing of hindus in Bangladesh, Chinese foothold on sl economy, Coup in Bangladesh and killing of mujib, complete islamisation of Bangladeshi population, return of 93,000 packie war criminals etc. These are not some tactical mistakes which resulted from lack of mod procurement, these are strategic blunders.Russia intervened in Ukraine when it felt ethnic russian are in harms way. If hasina goes eastern India will lit up

Can't change the past, might as well dwell on whether if similar scenario present itself again, what course of action will future Indian establishment take in that scenario considering current institutional capability as baseline.