Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

[hit&run]

Tbf right wing governments havw done this before. Nazis for example

Nazi were socialists.

 

[nWo 4 Life]

Nazi were socialists.

No, it's not really like that.

To paint all socialists with the national socialist brush is as absurd as heralding Bill Gates and Augusto Pinochet in the same breath as examples of free market capitalism.

Economically, Hitler was well to the right of Stalin. Post-war investigations led to a number of discoveries about the cozy relationship between German corporations and the Reich. No such scandals subsequently surfaced in Russia, because Stalin had totally squashed the private sector. By contrast, once in power, the Nazis achieved rearmament through deficit spending. They actively discouraged demand increases because they wanted infrastructure investment. Under the Reich, corporations were largely left to govern themselves, with the incentive that if they kept prices under control, they would be rewarded with government contracts. Hardly a socialist economic agenda.

But Nazi corporate ties extended well beyond Germany. It is an extraordinarily little known fact that in 1933 a cabal of Wall Street financiers and industrialists plotted an armed coup against President Roosevelt and the US Constitutional form of government. The coup planners — all of them deeply hostile to socialism — were enthusiastic supporters of German national socialism and Italian fascism. You can read it in 1000 Americans: The Real Rulers of the USA by George Seldes.

Fascism is more or less a merger of state and corporate power. Nazis were NOT socialists just because of the word socialist in their name. Nomenclature in itself doesn't mean much. If so, then we would also have to believe that North Korea is really a democratic republic because its official name is Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

 

[jackprince]

Capturing GB and Badhakshan province afghanistan to provide supply route to NRA is still the best option. We have to risk backlash from the chinks now, no other option

Capturing GB means going through POK and getting into full blown war with porkis and Chinkis.

Do Indian people have the stomach for the fall out? It will not only be a few of our boys lost - it can possibly be hundreds lost, billions of $ in cost, potential severe damage to our infrastructure at at least in western parts of India, likely economic sanction resulting in economic depression.

The cost is not worth supporting some groups in Afghanistan. Not yet.

In may be 5 years, India would gain the economic might coupled with military muscles to pull through that. But, not yet.

The day our military becomes so powerful that it can smash Porki defences within a few days, especially in mountains of PoK and GB, will be the day we can venture to do such. Because India can't afford to get into a protracted war because failing economy would do more harm to Hindustan than any threat porkis or Talibs poses. Ours is not a nation where opposition too thinks good for the nation. The moment we engage in the venture, the opposition would start crying bloody murder and when the economic costs trickle down to the masses, the mass will go against the venture.

So, our military build up needs to reach to the point where Porkis become so bloody insignificant that it is only Chinkis we would have to worry when we will be going into PoK and GB. The current pace is good so long the procurement processes aren't protracted needlessly.

 

[WARREN SS]

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

We are not being misled, not now not ever .
We know talibs are ideological haramis , they will never change and no We dont fear them.

 

[AMCA]

 

[WARREN SS]

Capturing GB means going through POK and getting into full blown war with porkis and Chinkis.

Do Indian people have the stomach for the fall out? It will not only be a few of our boys lost - it can possibly be hundreds lost, billions of $ in cost, potential severe damage to our infrastructure at at least in western parts of India, likely economic sanction resulting in economic depression.

The cost is not worth supporting some groups in Afghanistan. Not yet.

In may be 5 years, India would gain the economic might coupled with military muscles to pull through that. But, not yet.

The day our military becomes so powerful that it can smash Porki defences within a few days, especially in mountains of PoK and GB, will be the day we can venture to do such. Because India can't afford to get into a protracted war because failing economy would do more harm to Hindustan than any threat porkis or Talibs poses. Ours is not a nation where opposition too thinks good for the nation. The moment we engage in the venture, the opposition would start crying bloody murder and when the economic costs trickle down to the masses, the mass will go against the venture.

So, our military build up needs to reach to the point where Porkis become so bloody insignificant that it is only Chinkis we would have to worry when we will be going into PoK and GB. The current pace is good so long the procurement processes aren't protracted needlessly.

I agree with you
But I don't agree on common people part

In all previous wars of India
People actually supported the Indian government
Even to the cost of economic depression

Nuclear tests of instance .

Surgical strike ,Air raids

Modi won after demonizing
experiments


Don't compare Indians with Westerners
Yes they maybe selfish when it comes to opting for their interests in Local leaders and freebies

But indian citizens at large specially the rural population always core nationalists.

And when the times comes they will ready send there sons to fight.

Large part of are armed forces comes from these villages.

 

[AMCA]

 

[jackprince]

I agree with you
But I don't agree on common people part

In all previous wars of India
People actually supported the Indian government
Even to the cost of economic depression

Nuclear tests of instance .

Surgical strike ,Air raids

Modi won after demonizing
experiments


Don't compare Indians with Westerners
Yes they maybe selfish when it comes to opting for their interests in Local leaders and freebies

But indian citizens at large specially the rural population always core nationalists.

And when the times comes they will ready send there sons to fight.

Large part of are armed forces comes from these villages.

We were never the aggressor in those wars. We were punishing Porkis after their mischief. Also, back when we fought real wars, we didn't have the left liberandu brigade misguiding our youths at that time, not did we have ummah loving oppostion and 15% ummah loving population at that time.


Rural people too aren't out of the clutches of these scums nowadays. See for eg. the horrendus transformation of Punjab. Punjab used to be the land of the braves and has been turned into land of charsis and khalistanis! Nothing else explains the sudden turn where Khalistan loving AAP and Sidhu have suddenly gotten upper-hand there.

It is not new or unique to Punjab either.

The hundreds of million $ pouring into India through NGOs are just for that manipulation of people of India.

It is common for almost every nation where the rural people forms the core of the military. Nothing special about India. But, it is also true that rural people tend to be more nationalist than the urban populace - through every economic class.

 

[Suryavanshi]

Should have mixed grease with gasoline and set it on fire. Will keep smouldering till the next invasion of Afghanistan.

That will be too much for climates conscious Buden

 

[ezsasa]

Tbf right wing governments havw done this before. Nazis for example

they were a product of a different era, an era which came immediately after fall of multiple monarchies in Europe. So regimes of that era borrowed a few habits from prior monarchies.

Our current era is of democracies, current generation of political leadership do no imbibe those old habits.

and more over, India post independence does not have history of violent political purges(what Indira Gandhi did during emergency was tame compared to those european folks, she and her son even paid the price for adventurous campaigns).

Let me rephrase my earlier statement, In Today’s world only Islamists and communists have the will to violently purge their opponents. These purges anyways don’t solve any problems, they just prolong the cycle of violence at the cost of stability.

 

[Jimih]

Christine Fair got cancelled live on air on BBC
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Quite gross from @BBCNews : our "impartiality" doctrine was used to basically shut down
@CChristineFair when she explained #Pakistan's jihad policy in #Afghanistan that has brought us all to this catastrophe — an issue on which there is no "balance" or "other side", factually.

Isnt this the same Christine Fair who was a ISI darling till 2014? she continuously toed the Pakistan's ISI line while she was there.

Now suddenly she became Anti-pakistan? what may be the reason? The most likely will be the Pakistan throwing her out of the country and denying her visa now made her going bitter against Pakistan.

We should not forget how vehemently she wrote Anti Hindu, Anti India and Anti Modi articles in the past and now she is trying to portray herself as Sharafat ki Devi.

 

[Stalingrad]

Afghanistan will "likely" erupt in civil war, the top US general tells US media, warning that those conditions could see a resurgence of terrorist groups in the country https://t.co/jLaECuEpAo https://t.co/ppQc7TeZs0

 

[Jimih]

If you've read Adrian Levy's latest book(spy something..)he said that that Gokhale and his stratnewsglobal is more or less the external affairs arm of the Indian government.
See this excerpt here from that book
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Nothing wrong in that

BBC- Extended arm of British Govt and Queen
Voice of America - Extended Arm of US Govt
NPR- Extended arm of US Govt
RT- Extended Arm of Russian Govt
Global Times- Extended arm of China CCP
TRT- Extended arm of Turkey govt
Al Jazeera- Extended arm of Qatar royalty


It is not that hard to judge about NG's allegience. Just look at the picture frame on the wall behind NG when he does Video Conferences, which building is it? and you will get the answer.

 

[ezsasa]

Isnt this the same Chritine Fair who was a ISI darling till 2014? she continuously toed the Pakistan's ISI line while she was there.

Now suddenly she became Anti-pakistan? what may be the reason? The most likely will be the Pakistan throwing her out of the country and denying her visa now made her going bitter against Pakistan.

We should not forget how vehemently she wrote Anti Hindu, Anti India and Anti Modi articles in the past and now she is trying to portray herself as Sharafat ki Devi.

Came across a tweet few days ago, paraphrasing here “ Pro-Pakistan lobby of America defeated Pro-Afghanistan lobby of America in Afghanistan”.

 

[Cheepek]

Video looks old!

 

[Jimih]

translation:

Commander- What brings you here Paki?
Talibani- Jihad, sir.
Cmdr- Against whom?
Talibani- America, sir.
Cmdr- where is America? is it here?
Talibani- ((Giggling))
Cmdr- Bose DK.. Le chapaat chapaat

 

[Jimih]

Interesting

Atta Mohammad Noor, Salahuddin Rabbani, Marshal Dostum and Mohammad Mohaqiq were supposed to form a coalition to support Ahmad Massoud front, but due to Turkish and Iranian governments oppositions, it has been postponed.

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

Came across a tweet few days ago, paraphrasing here “ Pro-Pakistan lobby of America defeated Pro-Afghanistan lobby of America in Afghanistan”.

What is a "pro Afghanistan lobby"? How and by whom is it funded?

 

[ezsasa]

What is a "pro Afghanistan lobby"? How and by whom is it funded?

The people in US establishment who were hoping karzai and Ghani to succeed.