Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

[Bhairav]

US has paid the cost of trusting Taliban. Although it's just image related and most probably adminstration wont care.

It's not just image related damage. these incidents have triggered a domino effect of distruction and we all will have to pay for it and sadly yes, the Biden administration wont care.

 

[Jimih]

Reports of fighting between Taliban soldiers and fighters loyal to Ahmad Massoud and Amrullah Saleh in Jabul Siraj in Parwan province. Reports of casualties and fatalities. Phone and Internet services intermittent

 

[Bhairav]

Reports of fighting between Taliban soldiers and fighters loyal to Ahmad Massoud and Amrullah Saleh in Jabul Siraj in Parwan province. Reports of casualties and fatalities. Phone and Internet services intermittent

 

[Bhairav]

Reports of fighting between Taliban soldiers and fighters loyal to Ahmad Massoud and Amrullah Saleh in Jabul Siraj in Parwan province. Reports of casualties and fatalities. Phone and Internet services intermittent

And look at his wording, "Taliban Soldiers" and "Loyal Fighters"

 

[Srinivas_K]

Our full interview with Ramin Yousufi who is the relative of victims of a US drone strike. Ramin says in total 10 family members killed including 7 children, the youngest 2 years old. They had received special visas to travel to America #Afghanistan

All of them are given asylum to USA why did they not board the plane to USA?

USA is giving message to people that they will not spare anyone who have links to suicide bombers I guess. Very unfortunate.

Media ops, military ops, smoke screens all going on at the same time.

 

[Detective Pennington]

1. Electing Trump as their President was the best thing they did to their country (if you look from their perspective)
2. Actually It was solely USA's fault in letting China become the Factory of the world. Those Chinis werent even able to produce quality steel.

As for number 1, that's actually debatable. Trump in the short run did a lot of good things. He delegitimized the MSM and created a shit-ton of distrust in them, and by winning the election, he cracked their power (although you could attribute to Russia/wikileaks and project veritas a lot of credit for that). He shifted the overton window to make nationalism okay to talk about in center-right circles.

But he also associated nationalism with MAGA buffonery (culimnating in January 6th). There is an extent to how retarded you can be. Denying climate change, refusing to wear masks or get vaccinated, crying like a baby and throwing tantrums on twitter did more harm than good to nationalism. Trump, on everything that mattered, basically caved to neocons. He fired Steve Bannon after Charlottesville so he could beg the left to not call them racist, assassinated Solemani almost triggering war with Iran (though he did back off at the last second), moved the US embassy to Jerusalem and sacrificed the Palestinians to formalize peace between Israel and the relevant Arab countries (this is a good thing, but it's still neocon), put a shit ton of extra sanctions on Russia (despite all of the BS about being a Kremlin agent) etc, didn't ask the republican senate to go nuclear to build the war or mass deport anyone, let alone crack down on H1Bs.

2. Yeah I agree, there is actually a good quora answer on this. I can't find it though.

 

[Bhairav]

As for number 1, that's actually debatable. Trump in the short run did a lot of good things. He delegitimized the MSM and created a shit-ton of distrust in them, and by winning the election, he cracked their power (although you could attribute to Russia/wikileaks and project veritas a lot of credit for that). He shifted the overton window to make nationalism okay to talk about in center-right circles.

But he also associated nationalism with MAGA buffonery (culimnating in January 6th). There is an extent to how retarded you can be. Denying climate change, refusing to wear masks or get vaccinated, crying like a baby and throwing tantrums on twitter did more harm than good to nationalism. Trump, on everything that mattered, basically caved to neocons. He fired Steve Bannon after Charlottesville so he could beg the left to not call them racist, assassinated Solemani almost triggering war with Iran (though he did back off at the last second), moved the US embassy to Jerusalem and sacrificed the Palestinians to formalize peace between Israel and the relevant Arab countries (this is a good thing, but it's still neocon), put a shit ton of extra sanctions on Russia (despite all of the BS about being a Kremlin agent) etc, didn't ask the republican senate to go nuclear to build the war or mass deport anyone, let alone crack down on H1Bs.

Hence proved, Muricans never get anything right

 

[Shaan123]

Afghanistan civil war fears as Taliban battles Isis-K, Panjshir Valley rebels… and itself

There are precedents for US-Taliban working together, according to Earl Anthony Wayne, a former US ambassador with deep experience in Afghanistan.

In Kunar province in 2020, there were coordinated attacks against Isis bases, in which United States air power cleared the way for the Taliban to go on the ground.

Good Terrorist Bad Terrorist, go inside a rotating door as bad terrorist come out as good terrorist , US is a one nasty killing machine.

 

[Jimih]

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I am still not sure if it is true.

Myth 1: The Taliban have captured $88 billion worth of weapons & equipment. Not true. That number is according to SIGAR. The sum total of funding appropriated (not all of which was spent) for security reconstruction (mostly, the ANDSF) since 2002.

Some of that $ was used for weapons & military equipments, but a major cost driver for the ANDSF was salaries. Which means a good chunk of that $88B dissipated as paychecks into Afghanistan’s economy (or was skimmed into offshore accounts by AFG’s corrupt security leaders).

In addition, a lot was spent on maintenance & sustainment of the weapons & equipment purchased (typically done via contractors).

A lot of $ was spent on consumables like fuel. Last, a bunch of the weapons & equipment purchased by the US was destroyed in the course of fighting & some was previously pilfered & sold on the black market by corrupt members of the ANDSF.


Myth 2: The numbers in the infographics as posted above is now floating around purporting to show how much stuff the Taliban captured. They’re inaccurate. Not all of this still exists.

As an example, according to SIGAR here’s how many aircraft were actually in Afghanistan as of the end of June. Note, for example, only 3 C-130s. One of them was out of Afghanistan for maintenance.

There have also been reports of ANDSF pilots having flown aircraft to neighboring countries. The most credible of these is this report by Alan Cullison of the WSJ who wrote that 46 aircraft were flown to Tajikistan & Uzbekistan.


Myth 3: The Taliban know how to use all the stuff they’ve captured. They don’t. They might be able to coerce or co-opt a trained ANDSF pilot to do so, but organically? No.

 

[Jimih]

The list only includes captured Afghan aircrafts of which photographic or videographic evidence is available till Aug 16 2021

Aircraft (10)

• 
  1 A-29B
• 
  1 Cessna 208
• 
  8 An-26/32 [Inoperational for several years at the time of capture]

Helicopters (38)

• 
  11 Mi-17
• 
  13 Mi/24Mi-35 [12 were inoperational for several years at the time of capture]
• 
  4 UH-60A Blackhawk
• 
  10 MD 530F

Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (7)

• 
  7 Boeing Insitu ScanEagle

 

[Srinivas_K]

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Listened to gaurav arya latest video , to the point indeed.
Best part is we are now blameless about any thing which happens in the land of pure.

 

[Srinivas_K]

Listened to gaurav arya latest video , to the point indeed.
Best part is we are now blameless about any thing which happens in the land of pure.

I repeat what I have said earlier, if India goes to war people will know. It is not India's way of doing things.

4 decades of terrorism inside India and India can hit back at the point of choosing. But India has followed a different path vis-a-vis Pakistan.

India is going with the world order against Terrorism. If India feels its strategic aims are threatened then India will declare it is on its own.

TTP is more of a group of groups, some times Pakistan uses it to oppress pasthuns and some times Pasthuns themselves fight back against the Pakistan army.

The weapons left by USA is for the splinter groups to pick them up, Violence in the region will rise.

 

[ezsasa]

BREAKING: The US withdrawal from Afghanistan is officially complete



#Taliban militants firing celebratory shots across #Kabul.

 

[Lost user]

So, the chapter ends..

Last US military planes have left Afghanistan, marking end to chaotic exit from the longest war in US history

August 30, 2021 Afghanistan-Taliban news

The last US military planes have left Afghanistan, marking the end of the United States' longest war. Follow here for the latest news updates.

www.cnn.com

 

[Detective Pennington]

Now we see what truly unfolds.

 

[abingdonboy]

Cross posting

‘Taliban’ with a LOT of high speed kit (including modern NODs and IR illuminators) and even the high ready carry

I don’t think it’s going to happen immediately but if/when Indian forces come up against these guys one day, it’s not going to be the kind of fight they are used to.

this may be particularly devastating for the tip of the spear (PARA SF)

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LeT/local Kashmiris are spray and pray/throw a grenade and bug out insurgents. Coming up against some hardened Taliban (ex ANA SF?) who have the means to target at long range and who will stand and fight is a very very different game entirely

 

[vampyrbladez]

Cross posting

LeT/local Kashmiris are spray and pray/throw a grenade and bug out insurgents. Coming up against some hardened Taliban (ex ANA SF?) who have the means to target at long range and who will stand and fight is a very very different game entirely

Looks like only the MARCOS have some decent gear as of now, followed by NSG and surprisingly CRPF QAT.

MARCOS

NSG

CRPF QAT

PARA SF 'Distributed Encounter Resource Procurement (D.E.R.P)'

 

[Jimih]

"Americans opened fire fearing next explosion": Witnesses of chaotic Kabul suicide bombing aftermath speak to RT

One of the patients brought to the local hospital had at least four bullet wounds in addition to multiple shrapnel injuries. The doctors could not save him.

‘Americans opened fire fearing next explosion’: Witnesses of chaotic Kabul suicide bombing aftermath speak to RT

In the pandemonium that followed the suicide bombing at Kabul Airport, witnesses told RT’s Murad Gazdiev they ran for their lives as the shooting started. One injured woman described US troops opening fire as civilians fled.

www.rt.com

 

[no smoking]

1. Electing Trump as their President was the best thing they did to their country (if you look from their perspective)

From their perspective? Let's see:
1. Over 20m Covid case, 600,000 death. Just happened in the world No.1 superpower;
2. Instead of focus on China's trade dispute, he opened fire on everyone. As the result, US has to fight alone. He wasted the golden chance (probably the only chance) to win the trade war;
3. By pissing off every US' ally, he makes it an mission impossible for any future US president to create a meaningful anti-China alliance;
4. He promised to bring back the manufacturing departments to home, but he cut federal budget on public education and public health system, which actually push up the labor cost in low and middle manufactures.
5. His public anti-China announcement did a great favor for CCP: now even those anti-CCP Chinese have to support Xi's government because they can't allow China to lose a potential war against a superpower.

Yes, he was the best president for China.

2. Actually It was solely USA's fault in letting China become the Factory of the world. Those Chinis werent even able to produce quality steel.

Totally nonsense.
It was Japanese built the first modern steel production plant in China in 1978: Baoshan Steel which made Chinese steel industry bridge 30 years tech gap.
It was Germanies built the first modern car production plant in China in 1985: Santana which again bring Chinese car industry from 1940s into 1980s world.
It was Hongkong teach Chinese to produce modern consumer products and cloths with modern standard.

The below was the chart of percentage that the number of US companies (brown) and the amount of US investment accounted in the total: