Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

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did USA successfully drag china and russia into the fight.
well! RUssia is seasoned unlike china.
They won't get stuck in this muck. Neither Russia nor china will think two fucks before flattening large sections of the country wholesale.
 

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We can't classify it as failure. Afghanistan was a massive sinkhole of American money with no positive return. This money Americans want to use in other places.
Its bloody expensive to fight a war in today's age and fighting one half the world away will strain your budget.
At the end of day you always do cost-benefit analysis; what you invest and for that investment what you get in return. Americans where not getting fair value in return for their investment, hence Americans are just cutting their losses and refocusing in other domain.
If paying Taliban to stop use of Afghanistan as a base of operation or training against America aids them achieve their security objectives without having huge military presence in foreign country; so why not make the deal.
It was a failure because stated US goal was nation-building: that is, creation of a democratic Afghanistan. They failed in that, and it was thus a failure. But fact that pulling out meant that the campaign was a failure does not mean that pullout was a mistake.
 

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Must be a messup, a wrong target.. With all the US assets on evacuation operations and them winding up their business here, it would be harder for americans to get real intelligence and attack with precision.
but as usual..the media celebrated it as the success of white house.

Interesting times.
They have nothing to celebrate after the absolute shitshow which was a creation of the White House.

The damage is done and permanent. No amount of white washing or hailing them as heroes will help.

Hollywood will come to their rescue and make movies on multiple narratives to confuse the hell out of the Mango American who will sing hosannas of Biden and a well deserved US victory when there wasn't one to speak of.
 

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What "leverage" do Muricans have?
Have they decided to bankroll Taliban now? Wtf.


Substantial Control!! hmmm..interesting.
The usual controlled chaos..
Wondering when this will spill into Iran which is the end target with afghan being the ribbed condom to enter Iran.
 

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Meanwhile 2 Chinese Paki Army Pigs :pig: killed at Af-Pak border!

Who did it? ISI-K, Talibunnies, Al-Kaee-Da, Amreeka, TTP, Local Afgan Tribal, Afgan Refugee or ISI false flag? :confused1:

Satratigik Depth going deeper day by day! 2 Chinese Paki soldiers killed per day for couple of months! :lol:


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It was a failure because stated US goal was nation-building: that is, creation of a democratic Afghanistan. They failed in that, and it was thus a failure. But fact that pulling out meant that the campaign was a failure does not mean that pullout was a mistake.

It was a mistake specially when they haven't enabled afghan to defend themselves .

Their goals were stupid from the beginning too and the way they dealt with the situation was insane.


The only good thing is we had relative peace and time to built our forces to deal with them when they act against India.

We didn't utilised it completely that was our fault.
 

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It was a failure because stated US goal was nation-building: that is, creation of a democratic Afghanistan. They failed in that, and it was thus a failure. But fact that pulling out meant that the campaign was a failure does not mean that pullout was a mistake.
US goal was not creation of a democratic Afghanistan or nation-building. They don't give a shit about Afghanistan.
US goal was to destroy Al-Qaeda, its allies and eliminate their leadership to avenge 9/11.
Primary US goal was to stop/deny use of Afghanistan as a base of operation or training against America and its interest.
 

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It was a mistake specially when they haven't enabled afghan to defend themselves .
I wouldn't judge Afghans so harshly. Afghans were not fighting rag-tag bunch of terrorist but disciplined and well trained soldiers from Pakistan Army.
Taliban/PA had all sort of SIGINT, HUMINT, GEOINT , etc. compared to Afghans. As for why didn't Afghans use their air-force; it is because PAF was on stand-by.

For a typical Afghans solider it was loose-loose situation hence they surrendered on first chance they got.
 

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Meanwhile 2 Chinese Paki Army Pigs :pig: killed at Af-Pak border!

Who did it? ISI-K, Talibunnies, Al-Kaee-Da, Amreeka, TTP, Local Afgan Tribal, Afgan Refugee or ISI false flag? :confused1:

Satratigik Depth going deeper day by day! 2 Chinese Paki soldiers killed per day for couple of months! :lol:


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What "leverage" do Muricans have?
Have they decided to bankroll Taliban now? Wtf.


Yes.. It goes like this: Let our guys out.. and 1. Uncle SAM will sign free 10 year support agreement to all American equipment and air craft.

2. Taliban pilot training programs with Air Education and Training Command USAF..

3. Taliban officer exchange program at Westpoint to train future Taliban military leaders..
 

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Substantial Control!! hmmm..interesting.
The usual controlled chaos..
Wondering when this will spill into Iran which is the end target with afghan being the ribbed condom to enter Iran.
No entering Iran.. There will be ten thousand dead American soldiers.. and the American wokiyas have no appetite for it..
Max. there will be carpet bombing the Mullahs..
 

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Hi,
I was interested in somebody doing an analysis of all the weaponry that fell into Taliban hand. Which of these weapons India has immediate impact and which of these weapons we don’t really have an impact on. For example I would think rifles night vision and machine gun Will have almost immediate impact assuming some of this will get transferred to the pak army, However armored personnel carriers, trucks etc may not Because they will be utilized in a war only I mean against India.
 

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US goal was not creation of a democratic Afghanistan or nation-building. They don't give a shit about Afghanistan.
US goal was to destroy Al-Qaeda, its allies and eliminate their leadership to avenge 9/11.
Primary US goal was to stop/deny use of Afghanistan as a base of operation or training against America and its interest.
The US failed in even this goal.. Al Qaeda is alive and well in Afghanistan, and it will now flourish in Afghanistan now with the Taliban in command..
Al Qaeda leadership has been protected by Pakistan, and sometimes Iran..
 

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US goal was not creation of a democratic Afghanistan or nation-building. They don't give a shit about Afghanistan.
US goal was to destroy Al-Qaeda, its allies and eliminate their leadership to avenge 9/11.
Primary US goal was to stop/deny use of Afghanistan as a base of operation or training against America and its interest.
If that was the goal, why did they spend so much time in the Afganistan setting up a democratic government? All they had to do was to give power to tribal chiefs.
 

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What "leverage" do Muricans have?
Have they decided to bankroll Taliban now? Wtf.


Simply put financial leverage they need money the money is in US federal accounts number two they will have a very hard time if they don’t cooperate did the United States. It’s very different if they have nothing to lose here they have everything to lose.
 

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Hi,
I was interested in somebody doing an analysis of all the weaponry that fell into Taliban hand. Which of these weapons India has immediate impact and which of these weapons we don’t really have an impact on. For example I would think rifles night vision and machine gun Will have almost immediate impact assuming some of this will get transferred to the pak army, However armored personnel carriers, trucks etc may not Because they will be utilized in a war only I mean against India.
IA & BSF should be worried about the following,

NVG as you said

Some obvious ones could think of.

M249 LMG
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M2 browning

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M24 Sniper rifles with optics
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M224 mortar
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So far haven't noticed Barret M82 50 bmg in afghan army hands, if it does then it is a real problem

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H&K M110A1 Squad designated marksman rifle. again not sure if have been supplied to afghan army.
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