Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

[jackprince]

US has been pretty tame considering it's long lasting but now rapidly declining global hedgemon status.
Iran hasn't killed tens of thousands because that would get it in trouble with the rest of the cricling vultures up above. It definitely would if it could.

Imagine Iran as the top dog in a hypothetical world, replacing America, as your comparison draws it's logic.
Horrific.

Khomeini's Iran is 100 times better than USA under any colour. If fact, I wouldn't want change in Iranian leadership. Like it or not, a power vacuum in Iran would be thousand times worse than the vacuum of 2 decades in Afghanistan. And, if Khomeini and his fellow Islamist leadership is removed by force - if they can be at all, another Islamic regime would vie for power and the resultant fall out would even reach Indian shores. Iran is vital for our energy security and we cannot ignore that any power that might occupy throne in Iran, might or might not have favourable view towards India. We cannot forget that West is not a friend of India and a puppet regime of West in Tehran is not necessarily going to be good for India.

Those who think that moderate democratic force can take over power in Tehran and replace Khomeini, they need some strong coffee to wake up from their daze. Just like every other muslim nations, the rural people are and will remain orthodox and they would balk under forced imposition of western values on them. Heck, even Turkey couldn't save itself from falling down the chute of islamofascism and the crumbling began among the rural populace there too!

Believe it or not, democracy doesn't work in majority muslim nations - especially in ME.

As for Iran having a nuke. It is not that easy to develop one and even harder to make a functional one without testing. Nukes are not transistors.

Anyhow, if Iran gets the nuke, even then they wouldn't use it as they are not super crazy like Talibs or ISIS. It is a govt. and not a terrorist organisation. It would use it as deterrence and if I were an Iranian, I would also want one given the volatile archnemesis Israel and USA both have their share. Given how many times Iran gets threatened, it is natural for them to want a shield to protect itself.

 

[Jimih]

Another attack incoming, another legitimising exercise.

 

[Lost user]

US did the drone strike from Pakistani air base it seems.

It used Pak airspace.. as that's the only way in for US.. As per the article below, the drone flew from middle east.. Latest Reaper variants have higher range.. So, it could have taken off from Oman, bombed in Jalabad 1100 miles away and returned..
But, with more weapons range will be reduced.. So, it possible that a Pakistan base was used..

Biden warns another militant attack in Afghanistan is highly likely

President Joe Biden warned on Saturday that another militant attack was highly likely as U.S. troops began leaving Kabul airport after a two-week scramble by Washington and its allies to evacuate citizens and at-risk Afghans.

www.reuters.com

 

[The Shrike]

Thought I recognised one of the US Marines casualties from an earlier pic .

 

[Lost user]

Thought I recognised one of the US Marines casualties from an earlier pic .
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Poor girl..

 

[Jimih]

Thought I recognised one of the US Marines casualties from an earlier pic .
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List of Marines:

 

[The Shrike]

Turkey may be the first country to officially recognise Taliban Afghanistan

Should be looked at as a foreign base for the Turks.

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

There is a news in BBC, that eyewitness's are telling that maximum casualties (170+ and counting) from the Kabul incident didn't happen from the initial suicide blast but due to indiscriminate firing from US troops on the ground (after the blast) towards the panicking crowd.

 

[Jimih]

US Army Casualty- 1

US Navy Casualty- 1

 

[Jimih]

US Marines Casualties- 11

 

[jackprince]

Don't mind. But, when I am sorry that US service men and women lost their lives in Kabul bomb blast, but aren't we getting a lil too carried over with building shrines and memorials here in this thread? To us, they are just statistics - just like the thousands of ANA troops and thousands more civilians.

Heck, even US doesn't care for those deaths! In the days gone, US would have opened Bagram and cleared Kabul of Talibs and would have put things straight just to save its face and protect its global image, given the source of USS'es prosperity stems from the image of supah powahh it has built over decades. But, now US is such a pussy that it just ran away tucking its tail between its legs!

So, again, why are we building shrines of some 16-17 service men who lost their lives?

Our discussion should be about what comes next for Afghanistan and how India can control some of the fall out. That US got fcked shouldn't be our concern as they fell into the pit their leadership dug for them.

 

[Anandhu Krishna]

Why are we caring so much about US casualties!?

 

[Detective Pennington]

I think the best way forward to analyze what our ultimate goal is. What we want is for Pashtun naitonalists to want to take back the Pashtun lands east of the Durand Line. And we want Afghanistan to not be an area for which terrorists can infiltrate into Kashmir or even POK in the future.

Because of this, I think it's better to bet on the resistance fighters and not the Taliban. The latter will always have ISI influence, even if they're not as controlled as Pak wants them to be.

So therefore, if there is an opportunity to support the resistance, we should do so. This will be easiest if we actually take pack Pok and GB, or at least GB, so that we will have a border with Afghanistan. We don't even need POK for that actually, and would probably cause more problems than it is worth.

 

[Spitfire9]

Don't mind. But, when I am sorry that US service men and women lost their lives in Kabul bomb blast, but aren't we getting a lil too carried over with building shrines and memorials here in this thread? To us, they are just statistics - just like the thousands of ANA troops and thousands more civilians.

Heck, even US doesn't care for those deaths! In the days gone, US would have opened Bagram and cleared Kabul of Talibs and would have put things straight just to save its face and protect its global image, given the source of USS'es prosperity stems from the image of supah powahh it has built over decades. But, now US is such a pussy that it just ran away tucking its tail between its legs!

So, again, why are we building shrines of some 16-17 service men who lost their lives?

Our discussion should be about what comes next for Afghanistan and how India can control some of the fall out. That US got fcked shouldn't be our concern as they fell into the pit their leadership dug for them.

You and I do not know the situation on the ground, do we?

The US marines did what they could and showed great courage in trying to enable American citizens and others to evacuate. The cheap, objectionable comments about the US and how it does not care about those deaths are undeserved.

I happen to be 1/8 American. How would you like me talk about India and Indian troops who lost their lives in the same way? Please show a little respect.

 

[Srinivas_K]

It used Pak airspace.. as that's the only way in for US.. As per the article below, the drone flew from middle east.. Latest Reaper variants have higher range.. So, it could have taken off from Oman, bombed in Jalabad 1100 miles away and returned..
But, with more weapons range will be reduced.. So, it possible that a Pakistan base was used..

Biden warns another militant attack in Afghanistan is highly likely

President Joe Biden warned on Saturday that another militant attack was highly likely as U.S. troops began leaving Kabul airport after a two-week scramble by Washington and its allies to evacuate citizens and at-risk Afghans.

www.reuters.com

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It is most likely from Pakistan, as the pay load to hit the target needs shorter range for the mission.

Pakistani double speak and betrayals of their own people.

 

[WARREN SS]

US Marines Casualties- 11
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Irony is third marine

Rylee McCollum was Baby when 9/11
Happened

 

[Srinivas_K]

Why are we caring so much about US casualties!?

Every one who died because of bomblast should deserve atleast a mention.

 

[Srinivas_K]

What happened to Taliban 4 hour ultimatum?

Last time the news from Pakistani Twitter handles is that resistance has no chance against the ISI backed Taliban.

It seems Taliban is good on their own.

 

[WARREN SS]

You and I do not know the situation on the ground, do we?

The US marines did what they could and showed great courage in trying to enable American citizens and others to evacuate. The cheap, objectionable comments about the US and how it does not care about those deaths are undeserved.

I happen to be 1/8 American. How would you like me talk about India and Indian troops who lost their lives in the same way? Please show a little respect.

Well Indians doesn't have it like
That after any major terrorist attack or Uri attack
Or any such attack

Indian media hang Govt in power by balls

Situation on the ground created by US negotiators
Who shown Capitulation against Taliban

Which they themselves reconsider Terrorist
Organization
Which is responsible for over 3000+ deaths US service men
In last
20 years

Haqqani's Roaming Freely in the open
On streets of kabul

Terrorist who were Once consider National threat
Are Now considered Friendly assets

I mean Imagine It its like
India govt legitimately recognized Hafiz Shaheed and Rehaman Lakhvi
Responsible for 26/11 as same.

No wonder US never thought of targeting them out in last 20 years

You think Indians are fool
You think we don't know all this happening right now in Afghanistan
Falling of govt ANA surrendering
Like anything

It's just well coordinated act planned by Guys in DC

You guys take Indian's for fool
We literally run top end Big Tech giants in Silicon Valley

Afghanistan is in our Subcontinent
We live here for 8000 years

The mess US created in Afghanistan (Which was once vedic ancient land of Gandhara)along with its Abrahamic lackey Pakistan


Don't you think we Indians will have to live
Along two terror producing factories Next to its border that will result in thousands of Indian deaths
In coming decades.

Who's responsible for that??

While US lives with Canada.

How Americans are different from there Britsh forefathers who left India in mess
Hoping to destroy itself.
While there media still lives in Colonial hangover
Virtue signaling the Heathen's

Well We Indians are once Ancient global power house
For thousands of years along with Chinese civilization
Waiting for our time to Resurge Again like Chinese in 21st century

Our time will come .

 

[Srinivas_K]

Well Indians doesn't have it like
That after any major terrorist attack or Uri attack
Or any such attack

Indian media hang Govt in power by balls

Situation on the ground created by US negotiators
Who shown Capitulation against Taliban

Which they themselves reconsider Terrorist
Organization
Which is responsible for over 3000+ deaths US service men
In last
20 years

Haqqani's Roaming Freely in the open
On streets of kabul

Terrorist who were Once consider National threat
Are Now considered Friendly assets

I mean Imagine It its like
India govt legitimately recognized Hafiz Shaheed and Rehaman Lakhvi
Responsible for 26/11 as same.

No wonder US never thought of targeting them out in last 20 years

You think Indians are fool
You think we don't know all this happening right now in Afghanistan
Falling or govt ANA surrendering
Like anything

It's just well coordinated act planned by Guys DC

You guys take Indian's for fool
We literally run top end Big Tech giants in Silicon Valley

Afghanistan is our Subcontinent
We live here for 8000 years

The mess US created in Afghanistan (Which was once vedic ancient land of Gandhara)along with its Abrahamic lackey Pakistan


Don't you think we Indians will have live
Along two terror producing factories Next to its border that will result in thousands of deaths
In coming decades.

Who's responsible for that??

While US lives with Canada.

How Americans are different from there Britsh forefathers who left India in mess
Hoping to destroy itself.
While there media still lives in Colonial hangover
Virtue signaling the Heathen's

Well We Indians are once Ancient global power house
For thousands of years along with Chinese civilization
Waiting for our time Resurge Again like Chinese in 21st century

Our time will come .

Why this frustration dude?

India plays its own game. Why are you expecting US to do your own job?