Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

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As far as I see what taliban is , they can never be neutral with respect to india.
Taliban means student , they were children of afgan refugees in pakistan who went there in 80s .
The kids were intended by isi and pakis to control afganistan forever .
Mohammad doud khan , pm of afaganistan did not recognise Durand line , right in 1947.
Thus be it kingdom of afganistan or pdpa , none did.
So taliban comes here , they were educated with saudi money in pakistan madrashas in wahabbi ideology .
Hence , they have no sense of regionalism ( what ever they say about fight against non afgans is a farce )
So taliban previously attacked mujahedin , then nato forces and now afgan govt.
They attack any one who is legitimate , they are wahabis hence they will dilute pashtun culture .
Therefore they must be defeated , at any cost
 

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Chinese themselves have no surplus reserves as they show to flaunt it in C.Asia. They are loosing significant amount of their trade advantages post COVID.
Lol what?

Let us start with Tajikistan

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Chinese have overwhelming influence over tajikstan. Tajikistan owes 1.3 billion USD to the Exim Bank of China, which is 40 percent of the total foreign debt of Tajikistan.

They also maintain a military base in that country.


Let us take an other example Kyrgyzstan

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China is accounted for 45.3% of Kyrgyzstan's external debt (May 2019).

Same goes for Kazakhstan Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan whose percentage varies between 10-25%.

One must also remember that most central Asian countries have china as one of their largest trading partners. China corporations control most of the gold mineral hydrocarbon plants in these countries.

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All these combinations combined given china overwhelming influence in Central asia.

Afghanistan clearly is the next logical step.
 

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Lol what?

Let us start with Tajikistan

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Chinese have overwhelming influence over tajikstan. Tajikistan owes 1.3 billion USD to the Exim Bank of China, which is 40 percent of the total foreign debt of Tajikistan.

They also maintain a military base in that country.


Let us take an other example Kyrgyzstan

View attachment 102331

China is accounted for 45.3% of Kyrgyzstan's external debt (May 2019).

Same goes for Kazakhstan Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan whose percentage varies between 10-25%.

One must also remember that most central Asian countries have china as one of their largest trading partners. China corporations control most of the gold mineral hydrocarbon plants in these countries.

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All these combinations combined given china overwhelming influence in Central asia.

Afghanistan clearly is the next logical step.

These are the things happened when China is earning fat profits. Now the situation has changed. They are trying hard to lift themselves up now a days.
 

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How has the situation changed?

Do you actually have any stats tables to show or just statements?
Just a sample, the tech shares of China listed in US saw highest fall this week.

US imposed restriction on exports related to semi conductor chips from China. Their 5 G which they invested heavily is banned stalling their advances.

In fact Huawei is on the decline because of Jack Ma episode.

You can take out the recent speeches of Xi before pandemic, he talks about digital revolution instead of infra push more. Now the situation in this regard has changed a lot and china do not hold the advantages.

Due to the Pandemic exports of EU and US have fallen and yet to recover.

 

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Just a sample, the tech shares of China listed in US saw highest fall this week.

US imposed restriction on exports related to semi conductor chips from China. Their 5 G which they invested heavily is banned stalling their advances.

In fact Huawei is on the decline because of Jack Ma episode.

You can take out the recent speeches of Xi before pandemic, he talks about digital revolution instead of infra push more. Now the situation in this regard has changed a lot and china do not hold the advantages.

Due to the Pandemic exports of EU and US have fallen and yet to recover.
Damn it seems you barely understand anything but keep on saying random stuff.

Go check the economics thread you will understand why your answer makes no sense.

To explain in brief tech shares are falling because the chinese govt is forcing these companies to enlist in hong kong to promote china as a financial hub. EU's largest trading partner is now china and digital revolution is the next buzzword so everyone talks about.

Anyways none of this actually related to the topic of central asia.

Debt is debt and friendly govt's helpful in maintaing influence.
 

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Damn it seems you barely understand anything but keep on saying random stuff.

Go check the economics thread you will understand why your answer makes no sense.

To explain in brief tech shares are falling because the chinese govt is forcing these companies to enlist in hong kong to promote china as a financial hub. EU's largest trading partner is now china and digital revolution is the next buzzword so everyone talks about.

Anyways none of this actually related to the topic of central asia.

Debt is debt and friendly govt's helpful in maintaing influence.
They are pulling the capitol to invest in their own country, which indicates either they are cutting their losses or they lost the privilege the US has given to them.

China is export driven economy, what ever they make they have to export it. they have banked on Huawei and 5 G as their next trump card, previously it was infra. Now those plans are in jeopardy.

They are loosing the manufacturing edge. They are restructuring their economy to become consumption based. All this points to the fact that China is not betting on foreign ventures specially in a place called Afghanistan which gives no returns.

They are playing a strategic game in Afghanistan, economy and prosperity as just a buzz word coming from China not a reality.

The big economic gamble of close to1 Trillion did not give them returns. OBOR is almost stalled.

They thought they can buy strategic assets like ports, land and companies and wanted to integrate it to their manufacturing base in main land. They now realized it is not their game.

Specially in Afghanistan, what China wants to do is like what they did to Pakistan in the name of CPEC. Occupy strategic points and then black mail the host country for access and accommodate Hans.

Regarding my knowledge, what ever you have said.

I want to know about you, what are you?

you might be that pizza general who sold his country trying to sell CPEC and fake dreams?

China develops Afghanistan and Central Asia, have you ever checked the GDP and GDP percapita and the investment opportunities of these republics ?
 

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They are pulling the capitol to invest in their own country, which indicates either they are cutting their losses or they lost the privilege the US has given to them.

China is export driven economy, what ever they make they have to export it. they have banked on Huawei and 5 G as their next trump card, previously it was infra. Now those plans are in jeopardy.

They are loosing the manufacturing edge. They are restructuring their economy to become consumption based. All this points to the fact that China is not betting on foreign ventures specially in a place called Afghanistan which gives no returns.

They are playing a strategic game in Afghanistan, economy and prosperity as just a buzz word coming from China not a reality.

The big economic gamble of close to1 Trillion did not give them returns. OBOR is almost stalled.

They thought they can buy strategic assets like ports, land and companies and wanted to integrate it to their manufacturing base in main land. They now realized it is not their game.

Specially in Afghanistan, what China wants to do is like what they did to Pakistan in the name of CPEC. Occupy strategic points and then black mail the host country for access and accommodate Hans.

Regarding my knowledge, what ever you have said.

I want to know about you, what are you?

you might be that pizza general who sold his country trying to sell CPEC and fake dreams?

China develops Afghanistan and Central Asia, have you ever checked the GDP and GDP percapita and the investment opportunities of these republics ?
china is export driven economy, what ever they make they have to export it. they have banked on Huawei and 5 G as their next trump card, previously it was infra. Now those plans are in jeopardy.
yea right.


Anyways you have still not explained to me on how china has lost it's influence despite owning massive debts and having friendly govt's in power in central asia.
 

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Just a sample, the tech shares of China listed in US saw highest fall this week.

US imposed restriction on exports related to semi conductor chips from China. Their 5 G which they invested heavily is banned stalling their advances.
:facepalm:
China had 792,000 5G base stations as of end-February: report (rcrwireless.com)


In fact Huawei is on the decline because of Jack Ma episode.
:facepalm:
Jack Ma is the boss of Alibaba - a chinese version Amarzon.
He has nothing to do with Huawei.

You can take out the recent speeches of Xi before pandemic, he talks about digital revolution instead of infra push more. Now the situation in this regard has changed a lot and china do not hold the advantages.
:facepalm:
infrastructure of 5G is part of Chinese digital revolution.

What is China's New Infrastructure Plan and Will it Benefit Tech Investors? (china-briefing.com)

Due to the Pandemic exports of EU and US have fallen and yet to recover.
:facepalm:
China Ends 2020 With Record Trade Surplus as Pandemic Goods Soar - Bloomberg
 

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I will reply to you soon.

there is no Chinese digital revolution or tech revolution. Those are Chinese flaunting of non existent wealth and grabbing resources from poor country.

try feeding your own population first.
 

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