Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

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US Marines are the ones who are pushing back heavily against the Mandatory Vaccination out of 4 Branches.

Did you read Vice Magazine's tweet yesterday? They compared US Marines with the Neo-Nazis.

Somethings not right here really. Very fishy I would say.
You saying this could be on purpose?
 

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The same folks who were writing opeds warning India on how the US wouldn't engage with us because of Modi's "Hindutva" are the ones telling us that we should all engage with the Taliban since they are in power anyway.


BHARAT’s economic ties with the amreekunts and vice versa should not come at the expense of slaughtering the heart of BHARAT's culture, which is Hindu Dharma : HINDUTVA. This message has to ring loudly in the amreekunt trashacademia. It has to be sent from both the Bhartiya Govt. and Bhartiya businessmen and wealthy individuals.
 

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I think it's just their bad luck.....comparing Marines to neo-Nazis. What a joke of a country. Then again, considering how they treated the Vietnam Vets when they came back home, it's not that big of a surprise.
What next? "Defund the Marines" just like Defund the Police?

Wokeism has gone to next level.
 

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What next? "Defund the Marines" just like Defund the Police?

Wokeism has gone to next level.
Slashing their defense budget actually might not be that bad of an idea. They could use a lot of that money to instead provide tax breaks to their citizens and severely undercut the influence of the War Party. Their extravagant military budget gives them an impetus to wage war around the globe. They should revert back to isolationism for some time, focus inwards and then come back anew.
 

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Slashing their defense budget actually might not be that bad of an idea. They could use a lot of that money to instead provide tax breaks to their citizens and severely undercut the influence of the War Party. Their extravagant military budget gives them an impetus to wage war around the globe. They should revert back to isolationism for some time, focus inwards and then come back anew.
Not happening, War is the economy for them. More wars means more money for the Cabal (actual rulers of USA)

This is how an Empire works, US is the modern day Roman Empire, not kidding.
 

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In my view this has following objectives;
1. Discouraging Afghani people to leave Afghan
2.Creating panic and ending evacuation as decided by end of August
3.Try and get economic relief from US and EU as all money is blocked.
4.to show people that they are at the mercy of IS/Taliban.

I do not agree with the views that India is looking to put it's men on Afghan field, that may not be wise decision. Yes, it can happen under UN peace keeping missions which includes India and other countries , I thing We are pushing for this solution .Let India/Russia/China have there men under UN which will suffice their purpose of not using this land for terror and will serve their interest.
The points 1-4 sound plausible but, are too simplistic for such a complicated situation.
The objective could be primarily two fold, one-to gain immediate recognition for America n Pak supported faction of Talis by projecting them as saviours from ISIS (although it's ISISK not ISIS, but the word ISIS rings a bell so why bother to find out as to what's the K). Two-Short-circuiting the alarmingly growing heft n image of Northern Alliance.
Where in the post, was it said that India is looking to put men. What was said was "India's role is critical". India in any case has a policy of deploying only under UN, but dosen't looks like happening as of now.
 
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The worst is yet to come in Afghanistan. According to the secretary of state, 6,000 Americans were still in Afghanistan when the Afghan army collapsed and Kabul fell. Some 4,500 of these have now been evacuated. The State Department is in touch with 500 other US citizens to effect their departure. As for the remaining 1,000, they do not know where they are.

What does this mean?

Hundreds of Americans are going to be left behind, along with scores of thousands of Afghan allies who worked with the US military or contributed to the cause of crushing the Taliban. And many of those Afghans are going to pay the price of having cast their lot with the Americans. After Aug. 31, the fate of those left behind will be determined by the Taliban, and the whole world will be witness to the fate the Taliban imposes.

This generation is about to learn what it means to lose a war.

When the war for Algerian independence ended in 1962, and the French pulled their troops out, scores of thousands of "Harkis," Arab and Muslim Algerians who fought alongside the French, were left behind. The atrocities against the Harkis ran into the tens of thousands. Such may be the fate of scores of thousands of Afghans who fought beside US.

Biden’s diplomats may be negotiating with the Taliban to prevent the war crimes of using US citizens left behind as hostages. But they are not going to be able to save all of their friends and allies who cast their lot with US and fought alongside the US.

America still has leverage. As The New York Times writes, the Afghan economy is "in free fall."

"Cash is growing scarce, and food prices are rising. Fuel is becoming harder to find. Government services have stalled as civil servants avoid work, fearing retribution."

The Taliban’s desperate need is for people to run the economy and for money from the international community to pay for imports of food and vital necessities of life.

What will also be needed from America, soon after the fall of Afghanistan, is a reappraisal of America’s commitments across the Middle East. They still have 900 US troops in Syria who control the oil reserves of that country and serve as a shield for the Syrian Kurds. How long should they keep them there?

They still retain several thousand troops in Iraq. Why?

And most importantly, America needs to get its head out of its ass. Trump set the table and Biden sat down for the meal. But it turns out it is a very difficult feast to consume. The Establishment of both parties sees no war that they do not love - and the Establishment of which Biden is a part is now turning on him. And of course Israel’s sock puppets in the US political establishment will call for even more US involvement in the Middle East and the neighborhood.

More glaringly, the Taliban (like the Assad government) has been fighting ISIS; yet the US has been fighting the Taliban............to defeat ISIS??

Same with Syria; Assad is fighting ISIS and company but the US is fighting Assad. Does this all really make any sense?
 

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For now yes , but the true picture will be revealed only after US exit
Why do you think that US is exiting? It's just the soldiers who r exiting. Optics. Reasons:
1. Mulla Barathar n company are US backed, that's why a deal was struck with them in Doha. Pls also refer to Barather,'s release episode + Gitmo 5 episode for release of Khairulla Khairkhwa (the designated defence minister)
2. Haqquanis are Paki backed.
3. If Haqqani is security in-charge of Kabul, obviously 1,2 have to tied up.
4. Why would US leave behind the arms, if it was not to support the Tali faction they support + Pakistan.
Looks like US has abandoned Afghanistan to its fate
It hasen't abandoned. Just trying to keep it unstable, so that economies from this side of the world have stunted growth n r unable to challenge US.
Another interesting thing is that US is not simping Pak this time (politically) or else in this time of crisis US would coordinate with Pakistan extensively , early days but maybe and just maybe US will also abandon Pakistan
It's politics, n not simping of Pak by US. As far as coordination goes, what happened yesterday night-early morning is a prime example of great coordination amongst the 3+2 of them. Pls also refer to Indian Embassy in Turkey's calling out the operation, though naming Pak only.
 

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US Military suffering from Stockholm Syndrome

Apparantly yes. But given that US govt has signed a deal with Talis, do the armed forces have an option to call em otherwise. That's how democracy works. The US armed forces are just towing the line of their executive. Don't blame the army for that.
 

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Apparantly yes. But given that US govt has signed a deal with Talis, do the armed forces have an option to call em otherwise. That's how democracy works. The US armed forces are just towing the line of their executive. Don't blame the army for that.
Iam not blaming the Rank and File officers.

Any officer from 1 Star to 4 Star is a politician and an executive in itself, Iam blaming them.
 

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Iam not blaming the Rank and File officers.

Any officer from 1 Star to 4 star is a politician and executive in itself, Iam blaming them.
It's not abt rank n file or starred officer of Army. The armed forces in democracies follow the signature on dotted line by the executive. Politician+executive+army man can happen only in places like Pakistan, Lebanon (Gaddafi), China.
 

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