Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

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Every evidence we have in hand shows that IS-K cells have their roots in Talibs & Haqqani network particularly the ones operating in Kabul. Talibs denying links with ISIS is identical/similar to denial of Pak on Quetta Shura. Talibs hv leanred vry well from the master.
 

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ISIS vs Taliban now

ISIS and taliban are same. 99%of members of ISIS in Afghanistan are ex taliban fighter who were against peace talk with Americans.
ISI is playing new game by saying ISIS is involved in kabul blast by this statement they legitimise taliban rule over afghanistan and washing hands of taliban.
Now porki are dreaming to be next saudi Arabia by giving transit route to afghanistan and controlling 3 trillion dollar minerals of afghanistan. :pound::pound:
Porki never stop dreaming.
 

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THE PASHTUNS

Pashtuns comprise just 40% of Afghan population. Hazaras are 25%, Tajiks 21%, Uzbeks 6%. Rest are various small ethnicities and tribal origins. In most census the Hazaras ( Shias ) are deliberately undercounted ( as you can see from graph below ).

Now let’s look at Pashtuns.

At top of the pecking order are blue blooded DURRANI elites (12%). The other blue bloods are the BARAKZAI & POPALZAI sub clans and the commoner amongst them GHILZAIS (15%).

The ZADRAN, the progenitor of the HAQQANI clan, are more numerous, spreading in the eastern provinces of Nangarhar, Pakhtia, Khost.

The HAQQANIS are considered LOWER in the TRIBAL PECKING ORDER , compared to the 'blue blooded' Barakzais and Popalzai, or the Ghilzais.

Even among GHILZAIS , there have been intra-tribal grudges between AHMEDZAIS and ISHAQZAIS, both sizably numerous SUB-CLANS of GHILZAIS, or between the ISHAQZAIS and NOORZAIS.

All of the above clans and sub clans fought between each other.

And also within same clan as described below:

Though both Mullah Akhtar Mansour and Mullah Rasool were ISHAQZAIS ( a sub clan of GHILZAIS), both fought over control of respective drug empires and links in Iran.

Mullah Akhtar Mansour’s possible distancing from Pakistani control and progressive reliance on Iran was not liked by the ISI's Taliban handlers. He was killed in a US drone attack in May 2016, inside Balochistan while on his way back from Iran. ( CIA + ISI coordination )

Haibatullah Akhundzada : NOORZAI ( GHILZAIS )

Mullah Baradar : POPALZAI

Serajuddin Haqqani : ZADRAN / HAQQANI

The top two are blue blood and Haqqanis are “commoners” but numerically superior and trusted soldiers of ISI.

So the solution for peace is "NO PAKISTAN" on world map
Info Courtesy: Dr. Gaurav Pradhan
* No graph attached in original
 

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Good Taliban, Bad Taliban, ISIS, ISIS-K, Al-Qaeda, Lashkar, Jaish e Muhammad, Haqqani Network.......for me, it's all the same. Braindead terrorists, all from one death cult.
Well, there is a say in Africa , if you want USA to leave your country, just killfee dozen of their soldiers and redtbwould run away with their tail tucked between their legs, this after soomalia exit of us troops after blackhawk copter incident .
 

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Well, there is a say in Africa , if you want USA to leave your country, just killfee dozen of their soldiers and redtbwould run away with their tail tucked between their legs, this after soomalia exit of us troops after blackhawk copter incident .
Not to forget they will give you brutal retribution, with some 3k civilians paid for their lives.
Uncle Sam is having the same problem as all empires have they have reached the decay stage, the society is lethargic, the equality thing has become some sort of religion.
I encourage everyone to have a look at the essay 'fate of empires: search for survival' gives a good account of how empires rise and fall
 

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OSINT saying 1.3 thousand people injured in the bombings. Tf?
That's a lot of death.
If the controlled explosion news was correct, that would amount to a mere 4-5 explosions causing such calamity in a single night.
 

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They were providing bouncer service, in below video throwing out a woman who was able to scale the wall while she screams. Its not all cute taking care of babies (PR) down there.
They have no fear from Taliban as they all seems to be pious muslims,
 

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So in the eighties till 2001 US fought alongside Taliban to remove NA as N.A was in russian/soviet camp.
From 2001 to 2021 US fought alongside N.A to fight Taliban.
Now 2021 onwards US is fighting along Taliban to fight ISIS-K. :crazy::megusta:
 

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You don't need an MBA too understand that Taliban is doing a rebranding exercise...They have outsourced terrorism to its other branches and acting to be innocent. Inherent DNA has the letter T written all over it...As trump says it's a disaster with a big D
 

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Good discussion! Check out what Chris Alexander from Denmark has to say about Pak perfidy in Afghanistan in the vid below.

The question which the Americans and the West can't or do not want to answer is:

Why aren't the US and West sanctioning Pakistan for their duplicitous, disingenuous, devious, indirect, sneaky, role in Afghanistan and who are responsible for the killings of thousands of Americans and NATO troops over the last 20 years, in spite of being fully aware of the Pak hand?? No answer, but a thousand excuses not to!!

In other words, mollycoddling Pak is more important than protecting the lives of American citizens and soldiers in Afghanistan! They care a damn. Their priority seems to be to keep the Generals in Pak in good humour. And due to that old worn-out excuse that Pak is a nuclear state and the danger of their nukes falling into jihadi hands blah blah and more blah!!! So how can they sanction Pak? If they do, there's the danger of jihadists taking control of Pak's nuke assets and blowing up the world to smithereens! Kitsch! Gimme a break!

And needless to say, Biden is beholden to the Pakis for awarding him the “Hilal-i-Pakistan” (Crescent of Pakistan) in recognition of his consistent support for Pakistan. It's like, you scratched my back, so now I'll scratch yours! It's a mutual appreciation club. Far from sanctioning Pak, Biden is going to release billions in anti-terror funding for taking on ISIS, etc to help 'protect the world from catastrophe'! Jeeez!!

The region is being forced to come full circle and repeat the errors of its tragic past.

 
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The Punjabi trio of Sawhney, Panag and Gupta, just can't stop themselves from shilling for Pakistan and the Taliban..

Also look how he speaks Pakistani talking points about BJP ideology being the hindrance stopping a love fest with the Taliban.. God knows how these dogs get into the Army..
 
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My biggest concern about the growing calls to sanction Pak is that these idealistic liberals (who dominate MSM narratives outside of Fox) will content themselves with calling to sanction Pak with some mild sanctions that won't do shit (cuz of China, Turkey bailing them out and possibly Russia trying to undercut the US) as if it was some super intelligent policy. It's like Obama patting himself on the back for winning a few trade lawsuits against China that were ultimately meaningless in the long run because you are dealing with sociopathic insects that see the game through a completely different lens. These people's understanding of politics is limited to putting a #BLM hashtag on a tweet they copied and pasted from someone else.

You need to actually fuck with Pak, Ajit Doval style, not just throw on some token sanctions. If ISIS-K attacks the US again, start funding, training and providing logistics to the BLA.
I have zero sympathy for the US soldiers who died like pigs in the attack yesterday.. American policy makers have 10 times more information about ISI links to Al qaeda and Isis.. but they will still continue to suck Pakistani c**k..
 

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The Punjabi trio of Sawhney, Panag and Gupta, just can't stop themselves from shilling for Pakistan and the Taliban..

Also look how he speaks Pakistani talking points about BJP ideology being the hindrance stopping a love fest with the Taliban.. God knows how these dogs get into the Army..
Punjabi shilling for Paki Punjab is dangerous for us, Punjab is wealthiest in Pakistan because rest are poor, while Punjab in India is decently developed considering the socialism and insurgency.

Indian Punjab should be developed as much as possible so that this shilling get’s reversed and helps us.
 

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