Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

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I don't have any insight into that... but if India wants US to backtrack on support for Pakistan and become more positive towards India, annoying US would not help, would it?
The US doesn't get "annoyed". They do things in their interest at a time of their choosing. China has never been the safe haven of human rights and personal liberties but it is only recently that the US and its 'allies' have discovered a heart bleeding for the Muslims in Xinjiang (they love Islamic dictatorship all throughout the world though). Human Rights, 'Rule-Based World Order', Feminism, Gay Rights, Environmental Protection- issues such as this are less of libertarian principles and more of bargaining levers in International Politics.

The West will not backtrack its support for Pakistan regardless of what India does, for it offers a long-term guarantee to keep India engaged.
 

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I would say recognize teletubbies, speak to them. At least try to get some cookies from the jar. Morality can fuck itself. Even if a democratic govt comes they will still be Islamic and do Islamic things like .

So if we can get something back for our investment I would be happy. Them got Lithium tons and tons of it.
he said this 1000 years ago ... it was true back then as well .. :facepalm:

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The West will not backtrack its support for Pakistan regardless of what India does, for it offers a long-term guarantee to keep India engaged.
You think so? Why would the West be concerned about India when India does not constitute a security threat to the West or the world?

The West does not feel threatened by India. In all my conversations with people from Europe and North America I have never heard such a concern voiced. The West does feel threatened by Islam and Islamic states because of the violence committed by Muslims. Apart from the very occasional act of terrorism by members of the extreme right in Europe, Muslims have a monopoly in acts of terrorism.
 

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to be on high table one needs tools for negotiation unless taliban become a exporter of terror. what are the tools qatar have wrt to influence any decisions. or taliban with nuclear bombs is a guarantee that saudi dont overrun qatar. since pakistan can not become that guarantee.
qatar has been taking a different approach to be at the high table, US politicians ilhan Omar, rashida tlaib are backed by Qatari funded CAIR.
 

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Mark this terror organisations will be bhasmasuras for pak and no china wont be shri mohini for pakis,they will discard pak as soon as they havevtaken enough advantage of pak
 

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Why would the West be concerned about India when India does not constitute a security threat to the West or the world?
They don't focus solely on security threats, it's more of the overall clout which they don't want to shift.
Maintaining Israel as a counterbalance in the ME, pitting Saudis against the Iranians thru proxies, keeping Turkey subservient, Japan and S. Korea as a protectorate, maintaining Pakistan as their military garrison to contain India, India as a balance to China. It's all about maintaining the status quo, the state in which they remain the Masters.
 

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They don't focus solely on security threats, it's more of the overall clout which they don't want to shift.
Maintaining Israel as a counterbalance in the ME, pitting Saudis against the Iranians thru proxies, keeping Turkey subservient, Japan and S. Korea as a protectorate, maintaining Pakistan as their military garrison to contain India, India as a balance to China. It's all about maintaining the status quo, the state in which they remain the Masters.
In fact no power today can pose a security threat to the West given the vast balance of power in their favor. China with 2 aircraft carriers (one of which spends more time in the workshop than in sea) can't challenge the West militarily. That does not stop the West from taking actions to contain the Chinks in their tracks.
 

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They don't focus solely on security threats, it's more of the overall clout which they don't want to shift.
Maintaining Israel as a counterbalance in the ME, pitting Saudis against the Iranians thru proxies, keeping Turkey subservient, Japan and S. Korea as a protectorate, maintaining Pakistan as their military garrison to contain India, India as a balance to China. It's all about maintaining the status quo, the state in which they remain the Masters.
You're talking about one western country - America.
 

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This is a question worth pondering upon, isn't it? what is qatar getting out of all of it?

no heavy mining machinery will ever be able to operate in hinterlands of Afghanistan, that's a given. it doesn't take more than one mining worker to rub a local tribesman the wrong way and the whole tribe will be gunning to cut the throats of everybody in the mining operation in that area. so large scale mining will never take place in afghanistan.

whatever minerals that are going to come out of afghanistan are hand dug by locals from the caves.

so why is qatar doing all this, has been doing all this for past 25 years.

i'd say to reach parity with saudi royal family, just like pakistan seeks parity with India.
if not financial parity with saudi royal family they atleast get seat at the high table rubbing shoulders with world powers, influencing their decisions, accumulate power at global diplomacy. power and influence seems to be qatar's game.
Qatar aka Al Jazeera funded by BBC is a British front in ME. The desire to have its own policy in ME and independent of American interests.
 

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