Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

[nWo 4 Life]

The fate of one of the Mi-17V-5 helicopters received for repair by Ukraine from Afghanistan has become known.

According to a source, it was still handed over to the Afghan authorities before the collapse of the regime. But, according to available information, it did not get to the Taliban. It is now being used by the resistance forces in Panjshir.

The information about the second Mi-17V-5 is still unknown.

 

[chetan_chpd]

Well
Taking into account the "Grandfather paradox"
Your motive: end the MoMo, Terminator style

If you were to travel to 7th century AD Arabia, pull off a terminator on MoMo
You have done the action
The action will result in a chain of events and formation of an alternate timeline, in this scenario, MoMo didn't exist in the 7th century Arabia(since you did a terminator on MoMo) therefore the motive doesn't exist for you to perform the action
Bottomline, in a timetravel scenario as such, the motive and action, both cannot exist simultaneously, hence the timeline will constantly contradict each other

In other words, sapne dekhna band karo nibbaaaaaaaaaaaa

(lets move this to physics thread...so that pakistanis will ignore it)

disagree! changing the events in past does not make an alternate timeline- it affects the one and only flow of time...

time is like a river i believe...

consider following thought experiment

along the direction of river flow, there are three points - A(past), B(present) and C(future)

if i travel from B to A upstream and release red color in water...

water at A, B and C will become red.

only problem is that "how can i travel between A-B-C" aka time machine


so in grandfather paradox situation, if i go back and kill my grandfather...i would immediately disappear like avengers endgame

 

[Tactical Doge]

so in grandfather paradox situation, if i go back and kill my grandfather...i would immediately disappear like avengers endgame

First of all,
Time is not a unilateral flow like a river
Hence
In your own words, you'll disappear from the timeline when you kill your grandfather, which means you don't exist to made the decision which caused the chain of events leading to you killing your grandfather,
Then it implies you did not kill your grandfather, it is contradictory as phok

 

[Darth Malgus]

Resistance against the terrorist Taliban is a presumption for each of us #ولسوالی Hesar Bridge, Deh Salah and Beno in Baghlan have been captured by the popular resistance forces. The resistance is still alive.

 

[Jimih]

Well
Taking into account the "Grandfather paradox"
Your motive: end the MoMo, Terminator style

If you were to travel to 7th century AD Arabia, pull off a terminator on MoMo
You have done the action
The action will result in a chain of events and formation of an alternate timeline, in this scenario, MoMo didn't exist in the 7th century Arabia(since you did a terminator on MoMo) therefore the motive doesn't exist for you to perform the action
Bottomline, in a timetravel scenario as such, the motive and action, both cannot exist simultaneously, hence the timeline will constantly contradict each other

In other words, sapne dekhna band karo nibbaaaaaaaaaaaa

That was deep.

 

[LaIllahaSigmar]

The fate of one of the Mi-17V-5 helicopters received for repair by Ukraine from Afghanistan has become known.

According to a source, it was still handed over to the Afghan authorities before the collapse of the regime. But, according to available information, it did not get to the Taliban. It is now being used by the resistance forces in Panjshir.

The information about the second Mi-17V-5 is still unknown.

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I don't get why Uzbekistan is aiding anti Taliban forces.

Is this the russian way of keeping Taliban on their toes to prevent terror export to their backyard?

Is the consensus on Taliban controlled Afghanistan limited to kicking nato out?

 

[Waanar]

I don't get why Uzbekistan is aiding anti Taliban forces.

Is this the russian way of keeping Taliban on their toes to prevent terror export to their backyard?

Is the consensus on Taliban controlled Afghanistan limited to kicking nato out?

Could be of sentimental value too. Uzbek minority in Afghanistan will face hell if Uzbekistan abandons them and Uzbek government itself has always been extremely paranoid of Islamic resurgence and the inevitable overthrow of the pseudo dictatorship that may follow. A stable, secular Afghanistan suits everyone in "da hood" except Pakistan.

Of course, you're also correct in your assumption. There must be some pressure by the Russians as well.

Remember, when Taliban was at its peak, so was Chechen separatism. There is a relative causation there.
Many AQ and Taliban members had Chechen fighters in their ranks and those fighter would go back and wreak havoc till Basayev died and Kadyrov took control.

As soon as Murica invaded Afghanistan, the chechen insurgency died out, with not a bang, but a whimper as support and experienced jihadis also came in short supply.

Similar to India.

 

[WARREN SS]

I don't get why Uzbekistan is aiding anti Taliban forces.

Is this the russian way of keeping Taliban on their toes to prevent terror export to their backyard?

Is the consensus on Taliban controlled Afghanistan limited to kicking nato out?

Russians doesn't trust taliban whatsoever
Because of there long history
With CIA and ISI
They didn't forgotten the Soviet days

Saleh has Russians support all over him.
Ghani left in Russian planes isn't it strange.

They will practically start Northern alliance movement in North.

Afghanistan will be back to 90's
With northern alliance solidifying itself
In next few years
Which is good for us ultimately
To target Pakistan

 

[vjoshi]

Could be of sentimental value too. Uzbek minority in Afghanistan will face hell if Uzbekistan abandons them and Uzbek government itself has always been extremely paranoid of Islamic resurgence and the inevitable overthrow of the pseudo dictatorship that may follow. A stable, secular Afghanistan suits everyone in "da hood" except Pakistan.

game is yet to unfold.

 

[indus]

Could be of sentimental value too. Uzbek minority in Afghanistan will face hell if Uzbekistan abandons them and Uzbek government itself has always been extremely paranoid of Islamic resurgence and the inevitable overthrow of the pseudo dictatorship that may follow. A stable, secular Afghanistan suits everyone in "da hood" except Pakistan.

Wonder how all ethnicities are taken care off, except Hindus and Sikhs who are taken for granted to be the first line of refugees

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

Know your Itihasa!!

Afghan Humanitarian Pashtana Durrani mentions that Taliban's uprising would seek to destroy Afghan nation like shitlamic version of "Mahratta".

Mahratta is used in Pasthun slang as any inevitable upheaval, like a blitzkrieg, similar to the speed with which Mahratta Empire (Hindupat Padshahi) expanded across India and almost managed to reverse around 300 years of Islamic State gains in Indian subcontinent.

Mahrattas, although remembered in BHARTIYA subcontinent majorly as a positive Hindu stalwart military-state who reversed much of the roach-Afghan shietlamic gaandmasti, have a sharp contrast in depiction in historiography of jihadis as genocidal Hindu nationalist war-mongers.

On 14th January 1761 ad the Pasthun armies of Durrani-Rohilla Alliance fought to stop the "Hindu Mahratta" Empire that was going to wipe out the limping shietlamic mooghal State of Delhi (which was already a Mahratta tributary) and the Rohilla Afghans from India.

The long drawn campaign resulted in more afghan casualties than Mahratta but climatic conflict on 14th January 1761 was won by pashtun using long-ranged artillery. Durranis successfully massacred & scattered the 500,000 Hindu pilgrims accompanying 45,000 strong Mahratta army.

So called father of Afghan Nation, Ahmad Shah Durrani repeatedly refused to battle the Marathas. It required five of the most prominent Islamic religious and political figures living in the world at that point of to convince him to undertake the Jihad against the mighty Mahratta Empire.

A list of traitors to Bharat Mata :

Pir Saheb Shah Chisti of Lahore , Shah Waliullah Dehlawi , Caliph of Islam Pir Paigambar Ottoman Gazavat-E-Sultan Mahmud I ,Rohilla Khan Najibudaullah Yousafzai Durrani Darbari Qazi Qadris and Topi sultan.

It was only after these 5 convinced him that Abdali dared to challenge Marathas.

Coomer shah Waliullah Dehlawi's Deobandi ideology-based talibfags is said to strive for an "shietlamic Mahratta" of Afghan nation when it was Shah Waliullah himself who had invited Ahmad Shah Durrani for Jihad against the Mahratta Empire!

Aim of Mahratta :

Recommended reading :

 

[vjoshi]

Russians doesn't trust taliban whatsoever
Because of there long history
With CIA and ISI
They didn't forgotten the Soviet days

Saleh has Russians support all over him.
Ghani left in Russian planes isn't it strange.

They will practically start Northern alliance movement in North.

Afghanistan will be back to 90's
With northern alliance solidifying itself
In next few years
Which is good for us ultimately
To target Pakistan

also most of afghanistan mineral wealth is situated in northern region

 

[Waanar]

game is yet to unfold.

Yes, indeed. Make no mistake, there'll also be infighting in Taliban's own ranks as they jump over each other for more influence and material.
As Major Gaurav Arya (Retd.) says-
"Jab Bakra katega, tab hi toh batega" (The mutton will be shared only after the goat is slaughtered)

The goat has been slaughtered.
Now two factions will want the liver, some may ask for the leg, some will want the ribs.

Infighting develops.

Wonder how all ethnicities are taken care off, except Hindus and Sikhs who are taken for granted to be the first line of refugees

They aren't. Their life has no value there.

How I wish the government would use non uniformed Hindu militias to wreak terror on them (as they have upon my people).
I don't care how unethical, unrealistic and suicidal it is. I'd join in a heartbeat.
Unleashing such a militia on PoK after capture will win us the civilizational battle itself.
No self conscious empire stays tolerant,
No tolerant empire stays self conscious.
See what happened to Chengiz Khan's offsprings. Converted and now at the mercy of Pashtuns he so easily conquered (Hazaras are Mongols who settled in Afghanistan, tolerated Islam and converted later on). Wouldn't have been so if he forcefully converted Afghanistan to Shamanism.

 

[Darth Malgus]

 

[WARREN SS]

Know your Itihasa!!

Afghan Humanitarian Pashtana Durrani mentions that Taliban's uprising would seek to destroy Afghan nation like shitlamic version of "Mahratta".

View attachment 105840

Mahratta is used in Pasthun slang as any inevitable upheaval, like a blitzkrieg, similar to the speed with which Mahratta Empire (Hindupat Padshahi) expanded across India and almost managed to reverse around 300 years of Islamic State gains in Indian subcontinent.

View attachment 105847

Mahrattas, although remembered in BHARTIYA subcontinent majorly as a positive Hindu stalwart military-state who reversed much of the roach-Afghan shietlamic gaandmasti, have a sharp contrast in depiction in historiography of jihadis as genocidal Hindu nationalist war-mongers.

On 14th January 1761 ad the Pasthun armies of Durrani-Rohilla Alliance fought to stop the "Hindu Mahratta" Empire that was going to wipe out the limping shietlamic mooghal State of Delhi (which was already a Mahratta tributary) and the Rohilla Afghans from India.

The long drawn campaign resulted in more afghan casualties than Mahratta but climatic conflict on 14th January 1761 was won by pashtun using long-ranged artillery. Durranis successfully massacred & scattered the 500,000 Hindu pilgrims accompanying 45,000 strong Mahratta army.

So called father of Afghan Nation, Ahmad Shah Durrani repeatedly refused to battle the Marathas. It required five of the most prominent Islamic religious and political figures living in the world at that point of to convince him to undertake the Jihad against the mighty Mahratta Empire.

A list of traitors to Bharat Mata :

Pir Saheb Shah Chisti of Lahore , Shah Waliullah Dehlawi , Caliph of Islam Pir Paigambar Ottoman Gazavat-E-Sultan Mahmud I ,Rohilla Khan Najibudaullah Yousafzai Durrani Darbari Qazi Qadris and Topi sultan.

It was only after these 5 convinced him that Abdali dared to challenge Marathas.

Coomer shah Waliullah Dehlawi's Deobandi ideology-based talibfags is said to strive for an "shietlamic Mahratta" of Afghan nation when it was Shah Waliullah himself who had invited Ahmad Shah Durrani for Jihad against the Mahratta Empire!

Aim of Mahratta :

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Recommended reading :
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War that Maratha's would have won easily

But lost due to
Internal rivalry btw Maratha chieftains , Sadashiv bhao ignorance
And
Peswaha hatred for his brother Ragunath Rao who was
A veteran commander and defeated the Durrani's
And Abdali's son in Pakistan with sikh alliance .

Battle which would have changed the world
And India history forever.

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

War that Maratha's would have won easily

But lost due to
Internal rivalry btw Maratha chieftains , Sadashiv bhao ignorance
And
Peswaha hatred for his brother Ragunath Rao who was
A veteran commander and defeated the Durrani's
And Abdali's son in Pakistan with sikh alliance .

Battle which would have changed the world
And India hiatory forever.

Frenly reminder :

 

[nWo 4 Life]

I don't get why Uzbekistan is aiding anti Taliban forces.

Is this the russian way of keeping Taliban on their toes to prevent terror export to their backyard?

Is the consensus on Taliban controlled Afghanistan limited to kicking nato out?

I would answer you, but @Waanar and @WARREN SS have already explained it in such detail below, that there's nothing much to add to that.

 

[fire starter]

 

[LaIllahaSigmar]

Could be of sentimental value too. Uzbek minority in Afghanistan will face hell if Uzbekistan abandons them and Uzbek government itself has always been extremely paranoid of Islamic resurgence and the inevitable overthrow of the pseudo dictatorship that may follow. A stable, secular Afghanistan suits everyone in "da hood" except Pakistan.

Of course, you're also correct in your assumption. There must be some pressure by the Russians as well.

Remember, when Taliban was at its peak, so was Chechen separatism. There is a relative causation there.
Many AQ and Taliban members had Chechen fighters in their ranks and those fighter would go back and wreak havoc till Basayev died and Kadyrov took control.

As soon as Murica invaded Afghanistan, the chechen insurgency died out, with not a bang, but a whimper as support and experienced jihadis also came in short supply.

Similar to India.

Russians doesn't trust taliban whatsoever
Because of there long history
With CIA and ISI
They didn't forgotten the Soviet days

Saleh has Russians support all over him.
Ghani left in Russian planes isn't it strange.

They will practically start Northern alliance movement in North.

Afghanistan will be back to 90's
With northern alliance solidifying itself
In next few years
Which is good for us ultimately
To target Pakistan

Could be a mix of all the above factors.

Northern alliance right now could be an insurance if talibs don't shakeoff paki influence.

For now there does appear to be a tacit understanding between talibs and Russians as they too didn't evacuate their embassy.

Any idea what happened to the aid we airlifted to Afghanistan recently?
(As alleged by paki media.)

 

[fire starter]