Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

[another_armchair]

Murder of Farkhunda Malikzada - Wikipedia

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I hope Indian tweeters exercise caution and verify before sharing 'viral' content. This gives legitimacy to Taliban's claim that 'enemies of Afghanistan are conspiring to create unrest and dehumanise Taliban' while the bastards go about targeted killing unchecked.

 

[EarthCitizen]

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Nothing new, the fact is 95 percent of Indian Muslims do not support our country. They support Pakistan and its allies .
these 95 percent of Indian Muslims are waiting for a time when the war will break out between Indian and Pakistan and if .... if Pakistan by chance starts penetrating Indian borders, these 95 percent of Indian Muslims will gonna switch the side and gonna support the Pakistan army logistically and morally despite our nation has given them equal rights.
And this is the harsh truth, I myself pretended to be an indian Muslim for many years and I lived among them as Muslim by not telling my real identity and my conclusion is 95 per cent of Indian Muslims support Pakistan, Pakistan army . They are just waiting for correct time so that they can fulfil their ghazwa e hind thing


We have to be very careful if this amount of Indian Muslims support our enemy nation then look at our border areas,u will surprise to know in our border area with Pakistan, the Muslim population is increasing day by day and these people can turn out to be harmful in future

 

[Rudra7678]

Dont

Also let us not forget Rupen Katyal, who had his throat slit and his body was left on the tarmac.

 

[nWo 4 Life]

Okay guys, would like your input about whether this is accurate or not:

People's Anti-Fascist Front (PAFF) have released a video to claim responsibility for the attack on Indian Forces in Rajouri.

Fighters can be seen with L85A2 rifles with SUSAT scopes (which were shown before and possibly sourced from Afghanistan).

For one thing, it looks in bad condition, seems to be missing buttstock.

Plus, I'm pretty sure it's one person. 2 guys in the back are 2 photos of same guy and then edited into the same thing. And the guy up front maybe he’s the same guy but in different clothes.

Amateurs, who won't last long, but if their weapons and stuff has already started to come from Afghanistan, it's a bad sign already.

 

[doreamon]

Taliban ll be depended on china .. they wont target china ..

 

[sajobajo]

The only objection i have is may be target is nt china .. may be ...

Saar you be right about the may be. Unfortunately.

 

[Covfefe]

In fairness that’s a litte conspiratorial. Pak didn’t become that much of a failed state until the late 2000s. Until then you didnt have random jihadists running around blowing up buildings in lahore and karachi. But yes allowing Pak to get nukes was a massive foreign policy blunder on America’s part.

That's where US got it wrong. Pakistan's "State" establishment never failed. Its a well oiled machinery even today.

Here's a Paki terrorist timeline for y'all-

1) Insurgency in Kashmir-(1948)- The King of the Princely state of Kashmir acceded neither to India nor to Pakistan at the time of separation. Guess what Pakis did? Sent tribal lakshkars Afridis into Kashmir to kill, loot rape and invade. The King acceded to India and it was only then the Indian Army could intervene.
2)Insurgency in Afghanistan-(1974)- Pakis are extremely cunning at guilt tripping the self-depreciating liberal scholars of the West- "How can you blame us when you asked for the creation of Mujaheed". Well, that's one more shitty arguement. Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto had openly admitted to sending terrorists to Afghanistan to destabilise them.
3)"Invasion by Soviet Union"(1979)- It was never an invasion by the Ruskies. It was the legitimate ruler of Afghanistan who sought the help of Ruskies to contain this menace coming from Pak. The United States, in all its glory, blinded by its sheer hatred for Communists was happy to be in bed with Pakis to create something that's way more dangerous and barbaric than Communists.

Also, Soviet left Afghanistan in 1989. Had the containment of these radicals started by either Pak or the US in 1990s, you wouldn't have had this mess. What would be the average age of those who fought in 70s and 80s today?? In their 50s, right? But here you have teenagers and men in their 20s fighting in Afghanistan. Still buying the bullshit that "these are the men you helped create, how can you blame us for that?"

4) Rise in Insurgency in Kashmir(1990s)- The surplus stock of terrorists was conveniently diverted to Kashmir during the 1990s. Attaching a trend for you-

5) Global War On Terror(2001-2021) - Look at the map of Afghanistan. Bounded by Russian underbelly on the North, Iran on its west,a small rough corridor to China on the east and the Glorious Islamic republic of Pakistan on its South and east. US was already not on great terms with China, Russia or Iran to engage with them on a military cooperation. So who did you choose to go to war with? Jeevay Jeevay Pakistan. You should have just eliminated the Al-qaeda hideouts and got the hell out of there. The Kunduz airlift of 2001 wasn't enough of an eye-opener for you.

In parallel Indian Airlines hijack IC 814 happened, Indian Parliament Attack of 2001, Mumbai Attack of 2008, Bombay bombings of 1993, Pathankot, Uri, Pulwama and the list goes on.

The US got its own soldiers killed, its allies killed, ordinary citizens of Afghanistan and India killed and maimed- all thanks to its unflinching support of Pakistan through covert and overt economic and military aid.

One must question the intent of this war- was it ever about containing terrorism or just a sham to enrich its military-industrial complex by sacrificing the lives of so many soldiers and destroying the peace of the region.

And to your point-

Pak didn’t become that much of a failed state until the late 2000s. Until then you didnt have random jihadists running around blowing up buildings in lahore and karachi

Pakistan is not a failed state. Its economy is screwed, its infrastructure is almost non-existent and almost all its social indicators are bleak. But the arm that takes care of the stuff such as terrorism, nukes, and foreign policy (ironically its the same body there- Pak Army) is a well-oiled and well-financed machinery. Bomb blasts didn't happen in Lahore or Karachi because they were happening here in India, in Afghanistan or in the worship places of Shias and Ahmedis. Now, a few elements have started returning the favor.

And if the US thinks it can contain Pak by pandering to its tantrums of "you keep the cash flowing or we'll give the nukes to terrorists" then it is never going to work.

Pakistan is Al-Qaeda, ISIS(Terrorists), Iran(Rogue Islamic Nation with a vision of military dominance), and North Korea(Chinese vassal state with nukes) all rolled into one.

 

[Cheepek]

Okay guys, would like your input about whether this is accurate or not:

People's Anti-Fascist Front (PAFF) have released a video to claim responsibility for the attack on Indian Forces in Rajouri.

Fighters can be seen with L85A2 rifles with SUSAT scopes (which were shown before and possibly sourced from Afghanistan).

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For one thing, it looks in bad condition, seems to be missing buttstock.

Plus, I'm pretty sure it's one person. 2 guys in the back are 2 photos of same guy and then edited into the same thing. And the guy up front maybe he’s the same guy but in different clothes.

Amateurs, who won't last long, but if their weapons and stuff has already started to come from Afghanistan, it's a bad sign already.

Graphic designers in pindi working over time

 

[Covfefe]

Good man

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He may speak stupid at times but the clarity of his thought process is dearly missed

 

[Rudra7678]

The only objection i have is may be target is nt china .. may be ...

This is exactly my theory is about the "withdrawal of US" from Afghanistan. Let us put away cold war propaganda for a while. Both USSR and USA could have stayed in Afghanistan indefinitely. The reason USSR left was because Gorbachev decided to pursue his own ambitions of becoming a global leader (the chootiya he was and still is), he went about removing missile shields from Warsaw pact countries, one sided disarmament, abandoned allies (which also included Afghanistan). during the mid-1980s, around 1985-86, he made a strong case for Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan by 1989 because he said if we don't withdraw now, we will be stuck in Afghanistan for the next 20 years.

Similarly US too has decided that now Taliban or Islamic terrorism is not much of threat compared to China, they opened back channels and promised them to hand over Afghanistan to them if they could use their own influence to interfere in china's Xinxiang province and light up the fire of Islamic radicalism in western PRC. All those who are saying that Taliban defeated US, must realize that Taliban was nowhere as long as US forces were there. The US troop casualties dropped significantly in since 2015 and yearly figure has been reduced to double digits below 50. There has been almost no Taliban attack on US forces for several years barring roadside IED blasts or Helicopter being shot down. These Talibs could not even handle one Gurkha and fled leaving behind three of their own dead.

US has played its cards well and as the father of radical Islamic terrorism, they only know it too well how their boys are going to behave. PRC has been encircled by US allies viz, Japan, South Korea in East, an non-ally India in south and Taliban in the west. In the end, I am not saying this is how it will play out but it is an interesting mental exercise.

 

[Jimih]

Message from an Uyghur Sheikh to the Taliban: We are your neighbour not the China. We are your brothers in Islam. Don’t ally with China against us. Chinese doesn't like Islam.

 

[Covfefe]

Message from an Uyghur Sheikh to the Taliban: We are your neighbour not the China. We are your brothers in Islam. Don’t ally with China against us. Chinese doesn't like Islam.

Too much of incoming 'peace' in the region.

 

[Jimih]

Pakistan is 50 times more dangerous to the US and the world, says WSJ

Opinion | What’s 50 Times More Dangerous Than Afghanistan?

Pakistan has nuclear weapons and 200 million people, many of whom celebrate Taliban victory.

www.wsj.com

 

[Lost user]

Taliban ll be depended on china .. they wont target china ..

Looks like CIA was responsible for this guy's birth.. He just needs to ask his mother..

 

[Lost user]

So.. what do Press conference Iyas have to say about this..

Taliban Kill DW Journalist's Relative While Hunting For Him: Broadcaster

Taliban fighters in Afghanistan have shot and killed a relative of a Deutsche Welle journalist while hunting for him, the German public broadcaster said.

www.google.com

 

[Cheran]

Remember the people who fell from the plane? One of them was really young:-

The Afghan footballer who fell to his death from an airplane while trying to escape Taliban

Young Zaki Anwari was a student of the Esteqlal High school and hailed from a low-income household. He was a member of Afghan national soccer team. | OpIndia News

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Who was the Afghan footballer who fell to his death from the US C-17 plane while trying to escape Taliban rule. Details

"Anwari, like thousands of Afghan youths, wanted to leave the country but fell off a US plane and died," the General Directorate of Physical Education and Sports of Afghanistan said in a statement. As per his Facebook profile, Zaki Anwari was a student of the Esteqlal High school.

 

[Ayushraj]

Pakistan is 50 times more dangerous to the US and the world, says WSJ

Opinion | What’s 50 Times More Dangerous Than Afghanistan?

Pakistan has nuclear weapons and 200 million people, many of whom celebrate Taliban victory.

www.wsj.com

I don't know about US but porki are immediate threat to India.
US can easily deal with them.
Why we are so hesitant to accept Taliban rule.
At last in world geopolitics enemy of enemy is friend.
China and porkistan are friends since India is their similar enemy.
Japan, Australia, India , Vietnam , Taiwan are friends since all have common enemy China.
Taliban don't recognize Durand and we don't recognize loc.
At Taliban is only option for Afghanistan and their is no other option. If Taliban wants friendly relations with India we must accept them. What Taliban do in Afghanistan is their internal matter. We must not teach moral science to Taliban .
We must talk about business with them.
Always remember for porkistan Taliban will be far bigger threat than India if we used them properly

 

[Lost user]

I don't know about US but porki are immediate threat to India.
US can easily deal with them.
Why we are so hesitant to accept Taliban rule.
At last in world geopolitics enemy of enemy is friend.
China and porkistan are friends since India is their similar enemy.
Japan, Australia, India , Vietnam , Taiwan are friends since all have common enemy China.
Taliban don't recognize Durand and we don't recognize loc.
At Taliban is only option for Afghanistan and their is no other option. If Taliban wants friendly relations with India we must accept them. What Taliban do in Afghanistan is their internal matter. We must not teach moral science to Taliban .
We must talk about business with them.
Always remember for porkistan Taliban will be far bigger threat than India if we used them properly

Any business with the Taliban should be mutually beneficial. I guess India is waiting for some guarantees w.r.t Lashkar JeM...

 

[AMCA]

 

[another_armchair]

I hope all the 'talk to Taliban' crowd is aware that Taliban is 'katti' with us and communicates only through an intermediary.

Lets hold their hand in ours and ask 'Dard hua hai... pata hai... kidhar hai'?

Spring doesn't last for ever. Hold on to your wits y'all.