Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

[doreamon]

Most likely orders from CIA. They don't want opposition to Taliban.

All western MSM and SM companies are heavily controlled by CIA.

Thats the thing .. CIA controlls them all like CCP controlls everything in china .... The only difference is larger acceptance due to historical reasons .. And the best possible camaflague / propaganda of freedom of speech etc ... People in india are deluded ... Living in binary like democracy vs dictatorship is our delusion ... may be our relation with china ll change after xingping is out of power after a decade or two and india gather some economic advantage ..

 

[Jimih]

Military, at least according to the information floating around.

So they are in 10K or 20K in numbers?

Blackwater Group did employed these contractors in the past.

Dont know about the current status of the company

 

[nWo 4 Life]

So they are in 10K or 20K in numbers?

Blackwater Group did employed these contractors in the past.

Dont know about the current status of the company

Don't know how many there are, just bits and pieces of videos on Internet showing them being stopped by American troops from reaching the airport.

Blackwater was what first came to my mind too, but like I said, after the Nisour Square Massacre, or the Blackwater Incident as it is famously known, NATO doesn't deal with them anymore. Plus, I'm pretty sure they went defunct around 2015 or so.

Definitely something fishy going on, how are they here and who hired them?

 

[chetan_chpd]

Historic defiance against Taliban by Afghan nationals. Locals in Kabul replace the Taliban flag with the Afghan national tricolour flag at the famous Abdul Haq Square. Loud noise cheering from behind audible. Several protests against Taliban held, waving the Afghan flag. https://t.co/7niFkqMD9w

send this chadarmod to afghanistan...lets see how brave a "farmer" really is

 

[Anandhu Krishna]

That is a great example of a news organ incapable of organising a debate. Suppressing those in the know (reporters who are there on the ground) who were invited to give their account of events invalidates the exercise. The chair's assertion that various western governments are pressurising independent supporters to whitewash the Taliban is unlikely beyond belief.

It was interesting to learn (if true) that India has accepted all Afghans seeking refuge.

Western nations does seem a little keen on whitewashing taliban. Maybe not a lot definitely not all the way, but a bit.

 

[Spitfire9]

that would mean just because some member said some thing, you instinctively chose to believe it to be false.

Mate, next time you have such doubts just ask for source. more often than not, everything that is said at DFI has a data source behind. simply just ask for the source or context. Members will oblige.

Not the case. I referred to what somebody said in the Republic debate and said so. It's there a few pages back for all to see. It might be an idea for people to check things before jumping to assumption. Anyway that is long gone. I'm just bemused that people become so irate without thinking about what was written.

 

[Cheepek]

Historic defiance against Taliban by Afghan nationals. Locals in Kabul replace the Taliban flag with the Afghan national tricolour flag at the famous Abdul Haq Square. Loud noise cheering from behind audible. Several protests against Taliban held, waving the Afghan flag. https://t.co/7niFkqMD9w

That's why the first thing Taliban did was disarm the population. This rage will die if weapons not provided.

 

[Narasimh]

 

[doreamon]

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A quick read on Taliban 2.0 and the fall of Kabul :

1.The change of regime was engineered by the US in full public gkare including promises of a transition and interim government

2.The ISI did not subscribe to the idea but asked the Talibs to play along regardless
3.The old guard (Northern Alliance) Amarullah Saleh , Ata Muhammad Noor and Abdul Rashid Dostum were sidelined by Ghani on the directions of Zalmay Khalilzad

4.The fissures in the government were visible in the public posturing of the old guard which smelt a rat from the outset
5. As fighting erupted in Faryab and Herat, ANA and ANDSF fought back ferociously and managed to reverse initial losses

6. A message went went out from the Presidential Palace asking the ANA/ANDSF to stand down as a power sharing agreement was being worked out.
7. The Taliban true to their nature used this ceasefire to encircle ANA/ANDSF units and in some cases executed surrendered troops

8. There was total lack of cohesion at the command level and sustained infowar by the ISI ensured that troops deserted in large numbers
9.The Americans did not provide close air support (CAS) and delayed overhaul of key aviation assets which were critical to resupply ANA/ANDSF troops.
9. The decisions taken in Qatar and Washington were not communicated to CENTCOM in full.This led to a situation where the US Troops in Afghanistan did not get enough time to deploy demolition teams to destroy sensitive war fighting equipment
10. This was deliberate done because any such step would have led to widespread panic amidst the Afghan Forces who were battling the Taliban across a widely spread put front

11. The Taliban did not trust the Americans from the outset and made a lightening dash to Kabul
12. This was a classic "Hug" your opponent move which ensured that it had a good chunk of Foreign citizens and troops encircled in Kabul.A great bargaining chip to get the Americans to stop bombing their positions in the North and the West
13. This truly surprised the Americans as well a Ghani who was looking at a power sharing agreement with the Taliban alongwith Abdullah Abdullah and chief negotiator Hamid Karzai
14. Ghani was tipped off by his well wishers and made a quick exit allegedly with a lot of money (Critical in buying his Asylum)
15. Saleh had a Plan B in place by end of June 2021.However the Taliban put paid to his plans by taking Herat , Mazar-i-Sharif and Kunduz in quick succession.This cutoff all traditional Northern Alliance gateways

16. His retreat to Panjshir has landed him in a precarious situation as he doesn't have strategic depth to fall back. It is a position which he may have to abandon if he does not manage quick territorial wins to enable a land bridge to Tajikistan
17. ANA/ANDSF troops loyal to him have been unable to make way to Panjshir in the numbers he would have liked.His supply lines are non-existent and his allies look on helpless as supplying him by air is a very risky affair (not impossible)
18. The ISI has coached the Taliban well in projecting a more humane face.Ironically WAPO and NYT seem to be lapping up and are displaying new found love for Taliban 2.0
19. The Chinese will keep their cards close to their chest until the last American Soldier leaves Afghanistan.They will pay the ISI a bomb to get their hands on sophisticated American hardware
20. Ironically this isn't the first time that the Americans have left behind military hardware.The value of equipment left behind during the fall of Saigon was roughly estimated to be $1Billion in 1975

 

[Anandhu Krishna]

India Should Remove the Roadblock to a Strong Defense Partnership With the U.S.}

This is an article this same idiot wrote. Forget the stupidity in this but the arrogance and the sence of self importance is the nature every US relations with other countries.

 

[Sir pe tapla]

God speed to these boys.

 

[Cheepek]

"When the Taliban first sacked Kabul 25 years ago, the group declared that it was not out for revenge, instead offering amnesty to anyone who had worked for the former government. “Taliban will not take revenge,” a Taliban commander said then. “We have no personal rancor.” At the time of that promise, the ousted president, Mohammad Najibullah, was unavailable for comment. The Taliban had castrated him and, according to some reports, stuffed his severed genitals in his mouth, and soon after, he was strung up from a lamppost."

"Indeed, the leaders of the Taliban show no sign of mellowing. Why would they? For the past 15 years, they have been unremittingly violent, and for this pitilessness they have only been rewarded. They played at negotiating, but dishonestly, and only to accept the terms of American surrender. Moreover, the current generation of leaders is simply meaner than its predecessors, and in some cases hardened by time in Guantánamo Bay. The first generation of Taliban focused on overcoming its Afghan rivals. This one has taken on those rivals—and NATO—and has now won decisively. An Afghan in Kabul who knows senior Taliban told me they are “much more strict, much more hard-line.”

"“They came into the city as a victorious Islamic army,” he said, “and of course they will act that way,” and treat their success as a reward from God for having shown no mercy."

This Is Not the Taliban 2.0

The group’s claims of having changed are probably more reassuring to those unfamiliar with its history.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[Sir pe tapla]

God speed to these boys.

Now the question is, is Taliban going to spend their resources on controlling such a large armed rebellion or focus on Kashmir like Pakistan is hoping? I think it is the former. But don't know with these pigs, anything is possible.

 

[Sir pe tapla]

"When the Taliban first sacked Kabul 25 years ago, the group declared that it was not out for revenge, instead offering amnesty to anyone who had worked for the former government. “Taliban will not take revenge,” a Taliban commander said then. “We have no personal rancor.” At the time of that promise, the ousted president, Mohammad Najibullah, was unavailable for comment. The Taliban had castrated him and, according to some reports, stuffed his severed genitals in his mouth, and soon after, he was strung up from a lamppost."

This Is Not the Taliban 2.0

The group’s claims of having changed are probably more reassuring to those unfamiliar with its history.

www.theatlantic.com

Not only him but also his brother

 

[ezsasa]

Need to keep an eye on who exactly have been co-opted for image makeover of Taliban.
Notice the authors, me thinks feminist activist journalists under CAIR are being used for this purpose.

In the press conference too first question from al-jazeera was on women, majority of talking points in western countries are about safety of women and girls under taliban not safety of people under taliban, as if men don't matter.

 

[Jimih]

More whitewashing!

Taliban less violent than RSS, BJP and now Taliban less violent than Trump.

Another proof of Global Left and Islamofascists connection

 

[SavageKing456]

 

[nWo 4 Life]

Taliban impose curfew on Afghan Khost

The Taliban have imposed a curfew in the city of Khost, the administrative center of the province of the same name in eastern Afghanistan, a source said.

"Today the city of Khost was closed by the Taliban security forces and all movement was prohibited. They (the movement's representatives) stated that the purpose of the curfew was to prevent unrest in the city that could lead to looting," the source said.

 

[Cheepek]

"A Taliban commander identified only as "Musa" said the International Committee of the Red Cross had asked the militia to protect civilians and not to retaliate or carry out executions.

He said Taliban was not out for revenge, however, and said an amnesty had been declared for all government soldiers and officers who surrendered. "Taliban will not take revenge. We have no personal rancour. If the people find someone responsible for crimes in the past we will judge him according to Islamic law," he said."

Sat, Sep 28, 1996

Deja Vu?

Ex president hanged by Taliban after fall of Kabul

AFGHANISTAN Taliban militia appeared in full control of Kabul after it announced it was setting up an Islamic state and executed…

www.irishtimes.com

 

[Maitreya Shyam]

Need to keep an eye on who exactly have been co-opted for image makeover of Taliban.
Notice the authors, me thinks feminist activist journalists under CAIR are being used for this purpose.

In the press conference too first question from al-jazeera was on women, majority of talking points in western countries are about safety of women and girls under taliban not safety of people under taliban, as if men don't matter.

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Farhan virk ?? I think so because pakistan is going to help taliban in information warfare for example these types of articles , women rights and blah blah blah