Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

[Marliii]

I have lost confidence since the balakot incident. Without China imo there is high probability we would lose the war against Pakistan because there is alot of elements which imo favor them not us

Delusional -100%
All things are wrong because of modi-check
Pakistan will win war-check

 

[Cheepek]

Sustainable Development Goals
What a beautiful image!

 

[Cheepek]

NATO is keeping Israel intact and the Israeli's themselves know they are a temporary project and won't exist past 2050.. The US has done great effort to keep it alive but it won't even reach 100 yrs imo.

India however is much much stronger but with no support from NATO that is huge difference. I don't think we can win a war against Pakistan forget anything else

Do we have Guptas in Pisslamabad also?

 

[Marliii]

Miscalculation is bad and we most take everything into the calculus.. Learn from history

So what ? You really think pakistan will conquer us? Are you a hamza from la"whore" or abdul from pisslamabad?

 

[Covfefe]

I have lost confidence since the balakot incident. Without China imo there is high probability we would lose the war against Pakistan because there is alot of elements which imo favor them not us

Then the Paki propaganda machine got to you.

Balakot bombings were a success.(200+ porkis roasted is a piece of good news any day).
As far as the air battle that took the next day is concerned- just assume that mig 21 didn't shoot down a F16 and WC was taken hostage and then released. So what? A lot of military officers lay down their lives in JnK fighting these same terrorists. Just because he was from the AF and got a bad optics, the sacrifice would have been somewhat more important than the scores made along LoC??

In a war, you lose people- that's a reality. Don't go into one if you don't have the stomach for it. But that does not mean they won't get to you.

 

[Lost user]

I have lost confidence since the balakot incident. Without China imo there is high probability we would lose the war against Pakistan because there is alot of elements which imo favor them not us

Pakistan's lack of strategic depth ensures that most of its airbases, will be under continuing threat, and the sortie rate of PAF will be severely compromised in the opening phase of an all out war.. Without much air cover Pak Army armoured divisions will be taken out as well.. Pakistan alone against India is toast..

 

[another_armchair]

I am not saying that but I am saying don't blink or miscalculate and mostly it comes from underrating the strength of your foe and resources plus alliances or reach. When calculating something you must take into account many factors that are unpredictable

Aren't you that annoying Paki/Paki apologist+shill who was recently shown the door ?

 

[here2where]

NATO is keeping Israel intact and the Israeli's themselves know they are a temporary project and won't exist past 2050.. The US has done great effort to keep it alive but it won't even reach 100 yrs imo.

India however is much much stronger but with no support from NATO that is huge difference. I don't think we can win a war against Pakistan forget anything else

porki spotted.
i dont have a problem though... its been boring here for some time...

 

[Marliii]

They are not toast and far from it. All our population centers will be hit and also theirs plus nuclear winter outfall etc etc. This ain't gonna be walkover fantasy cartoonish fight they will attempt to penetrate our defenses in order to advance in-land. But it will come down to who wants it more and the power of the mind at that point as everything will be bleak and harsh condition environment.. I believe their soldiers are more motivated in a conflict scenario situation

@Bombayboyish is this really you?

 

[vjoshi]

They are not toast and far from it. All our population centers will be hit and also theirs plus nuclear winter outfall etc etc. This ain't gonna be walkover fantasy cartoonish fight they will attempt to penetrate our defenses in order to advance in-land. But it will come down to who wants it more and the power of the mind at that point as everything will be bleak and harsh condition environment.. I believe their soldiers are more motivated in a conflict scenario situation

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[nWo 4 Life]

Exactly if you read the book from Lester Grau "The Soviet-Afghan War: How a Superpower Fought and Lost", you get a glimpse of the logistical challenges and how the Russians performed namely their airborne troops and other special forces. The decay of Soviet economy ultimately forced the leadership to withdraw.
I hope we get a comparative analysis, note that the western intervention faced less enemies and had more tech in the form of UAV etc.

Well, it won't really be fair to compare the Soviet-Afghan war with the US intervention unless you do so in relative terms after adjusting for a lot of factors. The Soviet Union spent 10 years in Afghanistan while USA spent 20, so yearly averages would be the way to go.

It is clear that the US-led coalition, also thanks to new military technologies (drones, satellites, LGBs and so on), conducted a less human intensive campaign in Afghanistan. Yet, the difference (10,000 men) is not as high as the technological divide between 1989 and 2001 (or 2015 or 2020) would suggest.

The US-led coalition losses are massively lower than the Soviet ones. The reason is not only the use of new technologies but also the fact that the two factions waged a different kind of war on Afghan soil. The war waged by the Soviets and the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan was a TOTAL WAR. It was ideological in nature and aimed at establishing a socialist one-party state with no internal opposition.

No class or religion-based dissent or compromise could be accepted during (and after) the establishment of atheist, egalitarian, one-party socialist republic.

The Soviet war was thus waged against a great part of the population, political compromise was intrinsically excluded and total victory required a total war against an enemy with a large social presence and legitimation.

Americans fought against a specific group, the Taliban, popular in particular among one specific ethnic group, the Pashtuns, while despised by minorities such as Tajiks, Hazara, Uzbeks, Balochs. Furthermore, America, trying to learn from the Soviet mistakes, saw right away the necessity to lead a political process centered around compromise between different ethnicities, social groups, and sensitivities. The West did not rule out talking with Islamist factions (more moderate than the Taliban, but also less than the Muslim Brotherhood, such as Hezb-e Islami Gulbuddin). Another signal of such compromise is the fact that the Republic established after the overthrow of the Taliban in 2001 was named "Islamic Republic of Afghanistan". The US tried to keep as much as possible the war limited to the Taliban while compromising with other factions.

The Soviet approach to the war was brutal, the tactics and strategies employed so violent, that even for wartime, people could regard them as......questionable, to put it mildly.

The US spent way more money than the Soviet Union did. The payoff was clearly higher when it comes to military and civilian casualties, the political returns though are disastrous, as is evident by recent events.

45 days Vs 2 1/2 years. The difference seems even more striking when you consider the fact that the Soviets had a SMALLER army and faced MORE enemies than the Americans.

All in all, it was a shitshow then and it is a shitshow now. It was the death blow for the Soviet Union, and while the US may survive, it has received a knockout blow. Neither of them emerged from this looking good.

 

[Covfefe]

They are not toast and far from it. All our population centers will be hit and also theirs plus nuclear winter outfall etc etc. This ain't gonna be walkover fantasy cartoonish fight they will attempt to penetrate our defenses in order to advance in-land. But it will come down to who wants it more and the power of the mind at that point as everything will be bleak and harsh condition environment.. I believe their soldiers are more motivated in a conflict scenario situation

Guptaji, just enlighten us how exactly they have the capability to hit 'all our population centres'?
How they will penetrate our defences when their oil supplies are cutoff by the navy?
Soldiers are more motivated?- Lol. Somebody, please post that SSG heads chopped off images here.
And India has been working on her BMD programs since 2007(revealed publically). So you think we don't have a trick or two up our sleeves??

 

[here2where]

I am just opposite individual and dwell on worst case scenarios

and you are here in this forum with a short expiry date ...
i almost hear the tihar jail door slamming already ...

 

[DownWithCCP]

bot alert

This is not an ordinary bot, this is a bot from the 21st KeyboardWarrior division specially trained by ISI for PsyOps against kuffar indians.
Wait till he explains how Pakistan won '71 war and about how 1 Paki soldier = 10 Indian soldiers or about how Special Surrender Group(SSG) is the best SF team in the world.

 

[Tactical Doge]

I am just opposite individual and dwell on worst case scenarios

Or in other words

 

[doreamon]

Just look at yourself acting as if an average Joe that comes here want to kill and convert you It's pointless you will look for every possible excuse to despise a community and fail to look at it from an unbiased perspective.
EDIT - I agree we have a population crisis and refugees need to be controlled because of that, but the way sheer poison is spewed by a few of you is unacceptable .Makes you no different from Islamic radicals and I'm talking about right now. I have seen the way some of you mock them hiding behind the cover of anonymity and saying hateful things.

Islam divides the world in to kuffars and belivers .. Declairs islam as true religon and mohammad as the last prophet .. declares all criticism to be propaganda by the invisible shaitan .. punishment for leaving islam is death .. Biggest sin is shirk i.e polytheism . Kuffars ll roast in hell for eternity and believer ll get hoories , river of honey nd milk .. There are verses for sex slaves .. There are all kinds of hate verses against kufars .. punishment for leaving islam is death .....

These are so alien to indic philosopies.. There was no concept of my religion vs yours .. If u see mahabharata ramayana its victory of good over evil ....
So while you are criticizing right wing voices if u see from their perspective u ll have empathy for them .. Their fear is not phobia .. Its rational ..

Still .. despite all that govt trying its best to help . .. Issuing visa irrespective of religion .. Already 4k visas have been issued as per wion ( non muslim population of Afgan less than 1000 ) ... And 30k Afgan living in india already .. 2k students studying here .. So praise the kufars instead of finding faults for their legitimate conecerns

 

[Tactical Doge]

Soldiers are more motivated?- Lol. Somebody, please post that SSG heads chopped off images here.

Spoiler: Pork chops

There are plenty
But I don't want a ban from the mods

 

[Lost user]

They are not toast and far from it. All our population centers will be hit and also theirs plus nuclear winter outfall etc etc. This ain't gonna be walkover fantasy cartoonish fight they will attempt to penetrate our defenses in order to advance in-land. But it will come down to who wants it more and the power of the mind at that point as everything will be bleak and harsh condition environment.. I believe their soldiers are more motivated in a conflict scenario situation

Are nuclear gandu.. talk about conventional war here.. Pakistan has limited means to sustainably target most of India's population centers.. But, most of Pakistan's population centers like Lahore, Islamabad, Rawalpindi, Faisalabad, Gujranwala are within Indian rocket artillery range... We can kill you Pakis en masse, and burn down your population centers with cheap artillery.. You might fire a few conventional missiles at Delhi or Mumbai.. but there only a few that you can afford..
As to nuclear winter, there will be none.. with a few KT nukes exploding.. A few million tons of ash won't produce a nuclear winter, when 500 million tons of ash from Mount St. Helena volcano could not reduce the world's temperature more than 0.1 degrees.. Don't go by the analysis from some western pansies with an agenda... Also, any imminent launch by Pakistan, will trigger Indian counter force nuclear strikes.. so atmost only a few Paki nukes will get through, while India will take care, if the situation ever escalates to nuclear exchange, that there will be no Pakistan left, and the institution of Pakistan Army is annihilated..

 

[TejasMK3]

Delusional -100%
All things are wrong because of modi-check
Pakistan will win war-check

There has been a strange increase in supposed hyper nationalists and Super "Trad" Hindus, on Social media whose only job is make defeatist statements, paint gloom and doom all ending in "Da Mudi must ReJiNe"

 

[Covfefe]

There has been a strange increase in supposed hyper nationalists and Super "Trad" Hindus, on Social media whose only job is make defeatist statements, paint gloom and doom all ending in "Da Mudi must ReJiNe"

What kind of RW govt we have? instead of "dara hua musalman" there are plenty of "dara hua hindu"