Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

[abingdonboy]

Cross posting this from the SF thread

the Situation in Af is too fishy for my conspiratorial mind, I don’t think it’s good for India but I also don’t think it’s immediately a problem either- Pakis are celebrating FAR too soon and I would be absolutely terrified if I was in their position. The US no longer gives 2 hoots about them as their utility to them for was largely as a land route to support ISAF. Taliban are not the kind of neighbours anyone wants and now they are left with China who are already getting tired of Pakistan’s antics

 

[Detective Pennington]

Cross posting this from the SF thread

the Situation in Af is too fishy for my conspiratorial mind, I don’t think it’s good for India but I also don’t think it’s immediately a problem either- Pakis are celebrating FAR too soon and I would be absolutely terrified if I was in their position. The US no longer gives 2 hoots about them as their utility to them for was largely as a land route to support ISAF. Taliban are not the kind of neighbours anyone wants and now they are left with China who are already getting tired of Pakistan’s antics

Yeah China was a much bigger winner than Pakistan. TTP and Afghan Taliban are resolving their differences and releasing each others prisoners right now. I see Porks celebrating this, not realizing that it's far more likely Afghan Talib will turn on them rather than TTP becoming subordinate to them (they've already said they dgaf about Kashmir). And the US is fucking pissed, something is going to happen to Pak soon.

 

[Ayushraj]

Now Taliban vs taliban (porki army)
30%of fighters in this taliban offensive are provided by porki army(half porki army and half jihadi)
Now afghanistan will be graveyard of porki army trapped inside afghanistan.
Enjoy the show

 

[abingdonboy]

Yeah China was a much bigger winner than Pakistan. TTP and Afghan Taliban are resolving their differences and releasing each others prisoners right now. I see Porks celebrating this, not realizing that it's far more likely Afghan Talib will turn on them rather than TTP becoming subordinate to them (they've already said they dgaf about Kashmir). And the US is fucking pissed, something is going to happen to Pak soon.

I’m 100% sure that Pakis got their a$$es saved last time from TTP because of ISAF being in Afghanistan and the US intel sharing. ISAF (on the whole) denied sanctuaries on the Afghan side to TTP, US even did some drone strikes at the behest of ISI on TTP targets. None of this is an option now

If cross-border terror networks start operating Pakis are screwed as they will have no means of stopping that

+ how long before the Pashtuns start getting serious about the Durand line?

Typical myopia from Pakis just to score a ‘win’ over the US/India.

realistically a prosperous, secular and stable Afghanistan was In THEIR beat interest, they have a pathetic economic situation- they are cut off from what will be second largest market in Asia (India) within a few years and China’s trade only goes one way. They could’ve taken advantage of the cultural ties they have with the Afghanis and created quite a nice market for whatever it is they sell. Instead now what are they going to get? Cheap heroin flooding their divided country and an even greater human crisis on their hands

India just needs to secure its borders and sit back and watch this mess unfold

I’m not actually seeing too many in the Indian leadership overly disappointed with this outcome, that should alarm Pakis.


++ I don’t think China wins too much from this situation. All they want is stability on their borders, if anything if Pakis can’t deliver that they are going to be in deep water with their sugar daddy.

 

[no smoking]

They need Chinese investment. That is the factor I am worried about. But Chinese also need return on investment, not sure Taliban inspire that kind of confidence. Still, China has some cash laying around, they can use it to buy the Taliban for a few test drives, I think.

A few test drives? NO.
Basically, Afghan has quite a lot of economic potential: natural resources, perfect geographic location.
A stable and prosperous Afghan fits every neighbor, especially for China.

 

[Detective Pennington]

I’m 100% sure that Pakis got their a$$es saved last time from TTP because of ISAF being in Afghanistan and the US intel sharing. ISAF (on the whole) denied sanctuaries on the Afghan side to TTP, US even did some drone strikes at the behest of ISI on TTP targets. None of this is an option now

If cross-border terror networks start operating Pakis are screwed as they will have no means of stopping that

+ how long before the Pashtuns start getting serious about the Durand line?

Typical myopia from Pakis just to score a ‘win’ over the US/India.

realistically a prosperous, secular and stable Afghanistan was In THEIR beat interest, they have a pathetic economic situation- they are cut off from what will be second largest market in Asia (India) within a few years and China’s trade only goes one way. They could’ve taken advantage of the cultural ties they have with the Afghanis and created quite a nice market for whatever it is they sell. Instead now what are they going to get? Cheap heroin flooding their divided country and an even greater human crisis on their hands

India just needs to secure its borders and sit back and watch this mess unfold

I’m not actually seeing too many in the Indian leadership overly disappointed with this outcome, that should alarm Pakis.


++ I don’t think China wins too much from this situation. All they want is stability on their borders, if anything if Pakis can’t deliver that they are going to be in deep water with their sugar daddy.

Agreed, but China mainly secures the trade route through Central Asia if they can get the Talibs to play along, which is the biggest victory for them.

 

[Waanar]

A few test drives? NO.
Basically, Afghan has quite a lot of economic potential: natural resources, perfect geographic location.
A stable and prosperous Afghan fits every neighbor, especially for China.

Afghanistan has a lot of potential of Chinese investment going to absolute waste. Have a test drive.
You'll see US paying off Taliban to hit Chinese interests.
If you think they won't, you don't know US.

The only reason they withdrew from Afghanistan is to focus wholeheartedly on the ever dear bat munchers.

 

[no smoking]

But that's just it though, China is getting there before India. It may be that US wants to shut down India before they can become the next China, but with no other true allies against China as well positioned as India is,

Really?
Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, even Philippine can do more for US in their plan against China. They are all well located to threaten the core part of China.

it's more in their interest to help India grow to the point where they can seriously threaten China, than to keep them down and miss that opportunity.

You better have a look at the map seeing where India is.
Making India can seriously threaten China means making India army and airforce capable of crossing Tibet to strike inland China. With such a military power in hand, India will actually control South Asia and India Ocean.
So, US will feel the heat long before Chinese.

 

[Detective Pennington]

Really?
Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, even Philippine can do more for US in their plan against China. They are all well located to threaten the core part of China.



You better have a look at the map seeing where India is.
Making India can seriously threaten China means making India army and airforce capable of crossing Tibet to strike inland China. With such a military power in hand, India will actually control South Asia and India Ocean.
So, US will feel the heat long before Chinese.

Japan and maybe South Korea are the only members of those who have the military capabilities to be useful. The rest are just meant to hold US bases. India militarily is more powerful than both of them as well.

With respect to the plan fo building India up to counter China, China would also keep India down so not a problem for US. You do bring up a point though, India has to figure out a way from being used by the US in this manner to avoid becoming a puppet just meant to slow down China otherwise US will feel the heat.

 

[Lost user]

Really?
Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, even Philippine can do more for US in their plan against China. They are all well located to threaten the core part of China.



You better have a look at the map seeing where India is.
Making India can seriously threaten China means making India army and airforce capable of crossing Tibet to strike inland China. With such a military power in hand, India will actually control South Asia and India Ocean.
So, US will feel the heat long before Chinese.

Re BABA.. don't just look at the maps of India and China.. Look at the maps of the sea lanes.. India can f*** Chinese trade up, in a day.. and squeeze China's oil supplies from the middle east

 

[hawwk]

Cross posting this from the SF thread

Pakis are celebrating FAR too soon and I would be absolutely terrified if I was in their position.

Taliban are not the kind of neighbours anyone wants and now they are left with China who are already getting tired of Pakistan’s antics

there's a video of ttp terrorist mocking pakistani soldiers on border saying it's your turn now

their sugar daddy would stop sending them 10 year old trash if they find out what their child is doing with taliban i.e. "planning chinki invasion"

only thing that scares me is this

'Willing to develop friendly relations with Taliban in Afghanistan', says China

The United States began withdrawing troops in May, and since then, the Sunni Pashtun fighters have been making rapid advancement in Afghanistan and capturing major cities.

www.hindustantimes.com

i'm seeing amreekis arriving into afghan anytime soon if chinki-taliban coalition is to happen...

India just needs to secure its borders and sit back and watch this mess unfold

I’m not actually seeing too many in the Indian leadership overly disappointed with this outcome, that should alarm Pakis.


++ I don’t think China wins too much from this situation. All they want is stability on their borders, if anything if Pakis can’t deliver that they are going to be in deep water with their sugar daddy.

even i said the same thing few threads before.....
there are people here who are raging for nothing.... india doesn't have to do anything except getting intel about their future plan and engaging in psychological warfare.

Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

But AFP and Al-Jazeera reported the same! Where are the bodies?

defenceforumindia.com

 

[Kumata]

Pop corn... Taiwan shud be on table and eleven will do harakiri in there IMO... He is under tremendous pressure on internal fronts and need the Nationalist bogey to tide over. He tried with us in Ladakh and got butt fucked.. Taiwan seems like a ideal target... Sample below tweets...

 

[Sir pe tapla]

I don't understand which type of opium people here are smoking? When they say that talibans terrorists will not be deployed against india to attack kashmir.

Those who don't believe this i have two questions for them.

*First what 30-50 thousand trained mercenaries will do when the war is over they will become traffic police officer or they will set up garment shops in kabul? These uncivilized tangos will always live to fight. Kill for money and most importantly die for jihad.

* second Chinese fully support Pakistani state to produce nuclear bombs gave terrorists steel coated rounds we can see rise of new Chinese equipment used in the valley why the prime sponsors of taliban will not use these trained soldier's? And always remember hate against kafir against ideology of separate islamist state exists. After jews on a average basis a Hindu is the biggest enemy of these jihadis.


( and when i point these thing's it doesn't mean I'm scared or talibani is captain taliban i know they will end up in unmarked graves but it's just a assessment of future threat which will also include new American rifles).

Now that Taliban is the governing body of Afghanistan, they would be on the receiving end of Insurgency. They would be the ones dealing with suicide bombers and Guerrilla tactics. They would be the ones getting ambushed. The attrition rate is going to be very high. Don't think for one second that war lords of Afghanistan are just going to accept Talibani rule.

And this is where most of Talibani resources would go. Do you think they would spend all of their energy on some country like India or make it a priority to try to bring down a country wide mass insurgency in a place they spent so many years and resources to capture??

 

[nWo 4 Life]

Iran accelerating enrichment of uranium to NEAR WEAPONS-GRADE, according to IAEA.

Iran has enriched uranium to near-weapons grade, the UN atomic watchdog says in its report, seen by Reuters Tuesday.

The country increased the purity of which it refines uranium from 20 to 60% in April. Tehran said the move was in response to an explosion and power cut at its Natanz nuclear site, which it blamed on Israel. The IAEA report apparently suggests, there're even more centrifuges at work now, used to purify uranium.

Weapons-grade purity is said to be at about 90%.

 

[indian_blues]

Iran accelerating enrichment of uranium to NEAR WEAPONS-GRADE, according to IAEA.

Iran has enriched uranium to near-weapons grade, the UN atomic watchdog says in its report, seen by Reuters Tuesday.

The country increased the purity of which it refines uranium from 20 to 60% in April. Tehran said the move was in response to an explosion and power cut at its Natanz nuclear site, which it blamed on Israel. The IAEA report apparently suggests, there're even more centrifuges at work now, used to purify uranium.

Weapons-grade purity is said to be at about 90%.

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This is what I'm hearing this for at least 10 years, I guess they are using

to enrich uranium. Get bold and blow one up in your desert cave fellas.

 

[rockdog]

Some knowledge: the famouse Afg movie the Kite Runner is acutally filmed in Kashgar, Xinjiang.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Only one Russian source, not sure of veracity.

Chrikar, I have heard this name before.
Yes it was a Soviet strong hold.in old times.

 

[Deathstar]

The chinese rejoicing about Taliban , it wont be long before a Talibani commander witnessess chinese eating pork n drinking wine in kabul streets and declare you kafir infidels and start killing you. Afghanistan is Pakistan on steroids. Every Dasu type attack *100

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Iran accelerating enrichment of uranium to NEAR WEAPONS-GRADE, according to IAEA.

Iran has enriched uranium to near-weapons grade, the UN atomic watchdog says in its report, seen by Reuters Tuesday.

The country increased the purity of which it refines uranium from 20 to 60% in April. Tehran said the move was in response to an explosion and power cut at its Natanz nuclear site, which it blamed on Israel. The IAEA report apparently suggests, there're even more centrifuges at work now, used to purify uranium.

Weapons-grade purity is said to be at about 90%.

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They should just test one , if they want any credibility.
Pakistan's moNopoly on islamic bomb will be negated and threat of american war machine to iran will ve negated.
Israel is indeed the spoiler here.

 

[Tactical Doge]

The chinese rejoicing about Taliban , it wont be long before a Talibani commander witnessess chinese eating pork n drinking wine in kabul streets and declare you kafir infidels and start killing you. Afghanistan is Pakistan on steroids. Every Dasu type attack *100

As much as I hate the CCP
If there is one there they can do right, it is clamping down
I'm sure PLA has no experience fighting prolonged Insurgencies like RR, but they can go full Maachod-baazi if Talibunnies tries some stupid shit inside CCP china