Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

[Coalmine]

He was not talking about saving Kashmiri Muslims, but Indian military casualties..
That's the price India has been paying since 74 years to make sure that not one territory slips out of Indian hands, inspite of so many insurgencies.. And will continue to pay.. Not a problem for India.. Just have to make sure that we neutralize the jihadis sneaking into Kashmir with as few own military casualties as possible, and equip every one of our soldiers and CRPF / Police deployed for counter insurgency with the best equipment.. and surveillance assets..

I think maximum casualty happens due to soldiers trying to save Local muslims held hostage or stone pelting or terrorists holed up in a house.
Army must use bigger caliber weaponry and fire from stand off distance and use technology to gain advantage and keep themselves safe.
Local M's gaya bhaad mein. We must be sure whom are we trying to save is on our side

 

[Stalingrad]

I believe we should abandon the concept of saving Kashmiri people and sacrificing soldiers. Our soldiers are more precious than Kashmiri M's.

We can save both. Kashmiris as any other ethnicity have local advantage in their conflict zone. Most J&K SOG and JAKRIF, JAKLI Btns have Kashmiris who proved their mettle along with rest of the units.
Infact if any unfortunate situation arises we can always raise guerillas like Ikhwans within a short span.
The positive outreach programmes by army is for that very purpose.

 

[nWo 4 Life]

This will remain a pipe dream for some time. It's not due to lack of ability from the Indian armed forces, but I dont think any Indian govt has the testicular fortitude to go through with it and then there is the "log kya kahenge" concerns of some BJP mahatmas. This may only happen if the duffers in GHQ Pindi do something really really stupid even by their standards.

All of that, and the fact that Pakistan Occupied Kashmir has 41 lakh Muslims. There's no way we can drive them all out. Adding them to the population will add to the festering cancer within under the current policies, which will be even more harmful in the future than it is now.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Spot on! New kabristans will be created in J&K for the ghazwa koolaid drinkers. But the sad reality is there will casualties and fatalities on our side too.

Yuddh hai , balidaan to hoga .
Parantu unko veer swarg ki prapti hogi.

 

[Suhaldev]

Good article on geography of Panjshir, current situation and options

Panjshir: The last bastion of anti-Taliban resistance in Afghanistan

No government – foreign or Afghan – has ever taken and held the rugged valley by force

www.thenationalnews.com

 

[The Shrike]

Ironic that while the former rulers of Afghanistan leave using C-17s, the new rulers also arrive in a C-17.

 

[Suhaldev]

State of us and its allies. Biden haven't spoken to anyone

 

[WARREN SS]

 

[Suhaldev]

Germany ditched afghani too. Took only 7 of their own in a400m

 

[Suhaldev]

10000 11000 USA citizen strained in Afghanistan

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

10000 11000 USA citizen strained in Afghanistan

Damn it, it is going to ve even more humiliating for them.

 

[Detective Pennington]

Yeah if they can't get them all out very soon, (we're talking end of the month at most) Biden is done. Repubs will take the house and senate in 2022.

 

[Cheepek]

Only one Russian source, not sure of veracity.

 

[Hari Sud]

American trained and equipped soldiery collapsed in a hurry in Afghanistan. There was no fighting …. Just surrender with American arms and ammunition. Only gainer was Pakistan. They are rejoicing. In fact, US made a mistake by letting Pakistan from 2001 to 2015 drive it’s agenda. They were not working for US interests but for Taliban interests all thru these years. After 2015, they became open supporters of Taliban. Remember it was Pakistan, which housed Osma Bin Laden and dreaded Mulla Omar who was the original Mulla of Taliban. Knowing this the Americans never learnt to pinpoint the culprit. The irony is that Taliban May decide to eject Pakistan also because they do not need them anymore.

 

[doreamon]

u cant face this threat in a world dominated by liberal humanist and politically correct people occupying all position of influence always ready to rant atrocity literatures when it comes to violence inflicted by nation states ... And whn a nation state fails savagery is what replace it ...

 

[EarthCitizen]

 

[Detective Pennington]

u cant face this threat in a world dominated by liberal humanist and politically correct people occupying all position of influence always ready to rant atrocity literatures when it comes to violence inflicted by nation states ... And whn a nation state fails savagery is what replace it ...

This was essentially the second biggest problem, (after the fact that the majority of the Afghan Pashtun people supported the Taliban during the later years of the war due to the Afghan government's corruption and misuse of American aid / legit wanting Sharia). US and NATO refused to go ham on Pak, for reasons mentioned earlier about nuke instability and etc, but also Obama's naive idealism about being friends with everyone and not being Islamophobic by being too mean to Pakistan and too nice to India.

If US had invaded Pak the moment they stopped cooperating in November 2001 (airlift of evil), when their nuclear weapons program was in it's infancy, or even the moment we believed that Bin Laden was hiding in Pakistan and that Pakistani intelligence was protecting him from 2005, the short term cost would be a lot higher but the long term cost would have been a lot lower. India would have helped here. Instead they choose to keep on giving them chances. Look at the result. Only Pak and China (and maybe Russia) won here.

 

[Cheetah007]

This was essentially the second biggest problem, (after the fact that the majority of the Afghan Pashtun people supported the Taliban during the later years of the war due to the Afghan government's corruption and misuse of American aid / legit wanting Sharia). US and NATO refused to go ham on Pak, for reasons mentioned earlier about nuke instability and etc, but also Obama's naive idealism about being friends with everyone and not being Islamophobic by being too mean to Pakistan and too nice to India.

If US had invaded Pak the moment they stopped cooperating in November 2001 (airlift of evil), when their nuclear weapons program was in it's infancy, or even the moment we believed that Bin Laden was hiding in Pakistan and that Pakistani intelligence was protecting him from 2005, the short term cost would be a lot higher but the long term cost would have been a lot lower. India would have helped here. Instead they choose to keep on giving them chances. Look at the result. Only Pak and China (and maybe Russia) won here.

Russia is the biggest winner amongst all as they will get access to warm water and join the China bhikari corridor project. Atleast their new bromance with Pak suggests that. That Kabulov envoy is all over RT and saying didn't I predict the current scenario. India needs to play its cards really carefully. Babaji needs to start world tours asap!

 

[Detective Pennington]

Russia is the biggest winner amongst all as they will get access to warm water and join the China bhikari corridor project. Atleast their new bromance with Pak suggests that. That Kabulov envoy is all over RT and saying didn't I predict the current scenario. India needs to play its cards really carefully. Babaji needs to start world tours asap!

The warm water ports thing really sucks. I was hoping to be able to offer Sindhudesh (via forced defense agreement as part of conditions for withdrawal after liberation) as warm water ports for Russia in exchange for a military alliance when it comes time to invade Pak as part of the denuking process. If Russia doesn't need any more warm water ports in the region, not sure what else you can offer Russia. If Russia sides with China on Pak invasion, China will actually have the balls to intervene and it will be impossible to win. US+India+Afghanistan (that's IF Talibs turn on Pak, or Saleh's forces miraculously capture the sentiments of the Afghan people and he takes over, otherwise no Afghan support either) will not beat Russia, China, Pak and Iran (plus material support from Turkey and covert support from Saudi etc. possibly)

 

[Brood Father]

Taliban is liberal now , Anyone who disagrees will be shot dead and will hung from the pole for a day along with thier family members
By yours sincerely , Mulla Chhota Lulla