Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

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The current US withdrawal will forever diminish their claimed greatness as this is the first time in the era of social media where the running away images are seen by billions instantly.
Yup. America’s standing abroad is profoundly weakened. Everybody saw the U.S. Embassy’s lowering the Stars and Stripes for the final time. Smoke was seen rising from the grounds of the Embassy—which cost almost eight hundred million dollars to expand just five years ago.

US will have a hard time mobilizing its allies to act together again—whether for the kind of broad and unified alliance, one of the largest in world history, that formed in Afghanistan after 9/11, or for the type of small cobbled-together, voluntary “coalition of the willing” for the war in Iraq. The United States is still the dominant power in the West, but largely by default. There aren’t many other powers or leaders offering alternatives. It’s hard to see how the United States salvages its reputation or position anytime soon.
 

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The current US withdrawal will forever diminish their claimed greatness as this is the first time in the era of social media where the running away images are seen by billions instantly.
I am hoping that this will break the illusion in the minds of our 20 year olds about the west, implanted by western soft power.

Not advocating hate, but rather advocating realism.
 

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I am worried about these women



No doubt Talibunnies are animals but this time they might behave in comparitively somewhat more civilised manner due to the fact that they have to run their country and they need money and international support for it.
 

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I am hoping that this will break the illusion in the minds of our 20 year olds about the west, implanted by western soft power.

Not advocating hate, but rather advocating realism.
@Malala left the statement too late- thousands of Afghan women reached out to her to ask her to speak up, only now when the country has fallen, and she has PR pressure does she make a statement.


Many women and girls calling and writing to me saying similar

 

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If you want a full list of equipment destroyed and captured, here you go. Includes aircraft, helis, armour, UAV etc etc.

Trucks, Vehicles and Jeeps (2086, of which destroyed: 106, captured: 1980

Unmanned Aerial vehicles (7, of which destroyed: 1, captured: 6)

Aircraft and Helicopters (23, of which destroyed: 7, captured: 16)

Anti-aircraft guns (8, of which captured: 8.)

Artillery and Mortars (61, of which captured: 61)

Armoured fighting vehicles (60, of which destroyed: 9, captured: 51)

Tanks (12, of which captured: 12).
R.I.P Panjsher if Taliban really wants to capture it. India should pull Saleh out before it falls. He with Ata Noor et al can live to fight another day. Or else forever monopoly of sooar jihadis!
 

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Correct.

Both Afghanistan and Iraq have proved that the United States can neither build nations nor create armies out of scratch, especially in countries that have a limited middle class and low education rates, over a decade or two. It takes generations. Not enough people have the knowledge or experience to navigate whole new ways of life, whatever they want in principle. Ethnic and sectarian divisions thwart attempts to overhaul political, social, and economic life all at the same time. The United States spent eighty-three billion dollars training and arming an Afghan force of some three hundred thousand—more than four times the size of the Taliban’s militia. And nothing to show for it.

America’s Great Retreat is as humiliating as the Soviet Union’s withdrawal in 1989. Amrikis love to gloat that it contributed to the end of the Soviet Union and Communist rule. Well, that is probably true. However, the Soviet Union is estimated to have spent about fifty billion dollars during the first seven of its ten years occupying Afghanistan. The United States was in Afghanistan twice as long and spent far more. So, who's the bigger loser?

For the United States, the costs do not end with its withdrawal from either Afghanistan or Iraq. It could cost another two trillion dollars just to pay for the health care and disability of veterans from those wars. And those costs may not peak until 2048. This war is going to continue still, just not on the ground anymore. In all, forty-seven thousand civilians have died, according to Brown University’s Costs of War Project. More than twenty-four hundred were U.S. military personnel, and almost four thousand were U.S. contractors.

The Soviet Union at least, functionally brought Afghanistan 40 years forward, starting with the Band-e Sardeh dam, and Kabul polytechnic, and all the major infrastructure and social programs they fulfilled. Roads, tunnels, railways - all of that used to be constructed with Soviet power and money. Just take a look at USAID official web, where they clearly state, that the main goal is to maintain the Soviet built infrastructure.

In 15 years, they managed to reconstruct a whole 200+ km of roads, and refurbish one of the turbines settled at Kajaki dam, built by a US company, paid by the Afghans, upgraded by the Russians, and bombed by the US and then rebuilt with US taxpayers' dollars a few years later.

In the end, both of the big powers withdrew as losers, with their tails between their legs, leaving behind chaos. America was less brutal and didn't commit war crimes on the level of the Soviet Union, so there's that I guess.

The US forced the Afghans to adopt a Made in USA solution, a constitutional democracy under a President elected by a popular vote.

In many ways, the new government resembled a third-world version of Washington. Power was concentrated in the capital, Kabul. A federal bureaucracy spreaded in all directions, cultivated by US dollars and hordes of Western advisers.

Under the new constitution, the Afghan President wielded far greater authority than the other two branches of government, the parliament and the judiciary and also got to appoint all the Provincial Governors. In short, power was centralized in the hands of one man.

This rigid US designed system conflicted with Afghan traditions which was a mix of decentralized power and tribal customs.

Afghanistan was always a land of feuding tribes and implacable Warlords, the country always had a volatile history of coups, assassinations and civil wars. Was always meant to be like this only.
 

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May Allah's bois succeed in their endeavor. Mata Rani ki Krupa.


We should push for more and more Islam on Pakis. All Paki Nationalists call me Islamist, fanatic, terrorist when I say that pure Islam needs to be introduced in Pakistan.
 

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Afghani media switching sides?

TOLOnews and the Taliban making history again: Abdul Haq Hammad, senior Taliban rep, speaking to our (female) presenter Beheshta earlier this morning. Unthinkable two decades ago when they were last in charge ⁦
@TOLOnews



Red hat on:
>Taliban speaking to female journos in particular
>CNN journo lady reported that Taliban was Chanting "death to America" but at the same time was treating her with respect
>Taliban assured in the interview with India Today that they don't intend to target religious minorities i.e Hindus and Sikhs
>He also said in the same interview that they sent people to make sure that they were okay
>Again in the same interview, he assures women can go to work or educational institutions, as long as she observes the Hijaab
>Earlier they released a picture in twitter of Girls going to school wearing Hijab
>Multiple reports at the same time concludes Taliban has evolved post 90s
>Taliban became a lil bit liberal


Either they're doing propoganda, that too of top notch supported by several media houses to get international attention and recognition(likely)
Or years of Cave stay may have had an effect on the monkeys and they decided to evolve little bit(lesser likelihood)
 

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Liberandus Randi Rona. Help they cry don't help also they do Randi Rona.

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On a serious note, we should learn a thing or two from these commies. For example, their "cancel culture"- these buggers will outrightly maintain a strategic silence on the issues that don't pander their agenda. And RW keeps headbanging against these morons in a hope that their line of reasoning is going to affect their psyche. It's just better to ignore these bastards, ensure that they don't appear on news channels, their articles aren't published in a Mastram pamphlet, and their online shitfuckery isn't given the attention it screams so badly for.
Give them a social death. Hurts them more than a bunch of Shivsena thugs hitting them in public.
 

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Red hat on:
>Taliban speaking to female journos in particular
>CNN journo lady reported that Taliban was Chanting "death to America" but at the same time was treating her with respect
>Taliban assured in the interview with India Today that they don't intend to target religious minorities i.e Hindus and Sikhs
>He also said in the same interview that they sent people to make sure that they were okay
>Again in the same interview, he assures women can go to work or educational institutions, as long as she observes the Hijaab
>Earlier they released a picture in twitter of Girls going to school wearing Hijab
>Multiple reports at the same time concludes Taliban has evolved post 90s
>Taliban became a lil bit liberal


Either they're doing propoganda, that too of top notch supported by several media houses to get international attention and recognition(likely)
Or years of Cave stay may have had an effect on the monkeys and they decided to evolve little bit(lesser likelihood)
Correction, CNN journo was calling Allahu Akbar as Death to America in Pashto language.
 

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Same coordinated talking point on NDTV CNN BBC..
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“Taliban is trying to change the optics of how they are viewed. Taliban spokespersons are going to news studios and giving interviews to women journalists”: Suhasini Haider (@suhasinih), Diplomatic Affairs editor of The Hindu, on the #Afghan crisis


She deleted it. Left rot is real in India.

Now, Bhutan is giving lectures on refugee

 

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Few intelligence officers in the Delhi establishment were against the dilution of article 370 in 2019. One of the dissenting officers told me, ‘Thank god
@AmitShah
acted then. In today’s situation it’s an advantage.’

This article was written on 6 Aug 2019.

An Afghanistan pretext behind Kashmir’s ‘reorganisation’?

As per a report in The Hindustan Times, the chief of R&AW, India’s external intelligence agency, met Prime Minister Narendra Modi last month to inform him that the government may have a window of one month to orchestrate such a plan in Kashmir as the US and Taliban come close to striking a compromise over the Afghan war, now in its eighteenth year of failure.

https://www.orfonline.org/expert-speak/afghanistan-pretext-behind-kashmirs-reorganisation-54139/
 

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