Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

[Raaakisazih]

He is a unique guy. Inspite of being a spy, he specializes in subversion, Making friendship with enemies and striking solution with militant groups and many more. He is a great negotiator. He has some great operations on his name which changed the future of that region.

Yes in North east he has done a great job we need to find his successor too

 

[another_armchair]

After US defeat we can finally conclude that US policy in Afghanistan has completely failed. Their exit was disastrous for Afghanistan but we all knew it was going to happen one day. They spent 20 years in that country. A few more years wasn't going to change anything.

The only major mistake they made is they didn't put enough pressure on Pakistan. ISI were giving shelter to afghan terrorists in full knowledge of CIA yet USA didn't do anything about Pakistan. This is the major reason they failed.

Ironically in 80s CIA created Taliban to defeat commies now same Taliban defeated them. It has come full circle.

Pakis are enjoying this as a win. In reality they have made things worse. Their dream of central asian trade via Afghanistan will suffer. They also have an afghan refugee crisis looming. Islamic fundamentalism will increase in Pakistan. A stable prosperous neighborhood would've brought peace and economic opportunity for pakis but pakis being pakis they chose terror and instability.

Now its time for India to increase border protection and strengthen counter insurgency unites. Terrorism is going to make a strong return in various parts of the world including India.

It will be easier to exert pressure on Pakistan once US is out of Af-Pak for good rather than being dependent on Pakistan for their supply lines.

Nobody in the world or the US establishment has a fuckin clue why they came to Afghanistan in the first place.

To kill Osama? To rebuild Afghanistan? To root out Islamic terror? To get a foothold in Central Asia?

TBH, they failed in all of the above when their prime target lived in a garrison town as a protectee of their biggest GWOT ally, Pakistan and it took them nearly 10 years to nail Osama Bin Laden.

Looks like every couple of decades, US establishment decides to use war as an excuse to get ahead of its adversaries in the defence technology department, rework and refine its war fighting abilities with no intention of winning. They are more status-quoists than our Babus than initially imagined.

 

[fire starter]

 

[another_armchair]

They should wait for Taliban to crawl out of their holes and start their convoys towards Kabul.

I guess they will wait for Taliban to make a final move towards Kabul. That is when they have their best chance to wipe out more than half the vermin if they have learnt anything in the recent past.

 

[Lost user]

Interesting..

 

[Lost user]

US should follow the Syria model in Afghanistan. Overwhelming use of air power, with very minimal foot print on the ground. That would almost remove Pakistan leverage of using logistical dependence against US.. Also, with Taliban gaining control of Northern Afghanistan, Russia has enough to worry about, and will get involved in Afghanistan/central asia, thereby stretching its already stretched resources..

 

[t 90s]

It will be easier to exert pressure on Pakistan once US is out of Af-Pak for good rather than being dependent on Pakistan for their supply lines.

Nobody in the world or the US establishment has a fuckin clue why they came to Afghanistan in the first place.

To kill Osama? To rebuild Afghanistan? To root out Islamic terror? To get a foothold in Central Asia?

TBH, they failed in all of the above when their prime target lived in a garrison town as a protectee of their biggest GWOT ally, Pakistan and it took them nearly 10 years to nail Osama Bin Laden.

Looks like every couple of decades, US establishment decides to use war as an excuse to get ahead of its adversaries in the defence technology department, rework and refine its war fighting abilities with no intention of winning. They are more status-quoists than our Babus than initially imagined.

middle east is the biggest weapons testing ground for US , russians, European, after few decades you will see US again in some war in middle east or back in Afghanistan. russian & Chinese will supply weapons to adversey & cycle will continue. but i believe war fatigue has set up even on US. fertility rate are not on there side, same goes to Europe & russians. China is all talk nothing else.They are also facing a population bust. Russia has been a big winner in all this lately from Eastern Europe to middle east, but demography is again not on there side.

 

[WARREN SS]

Strange why US is not done it soon
I mean how can a rag tag militia survive a
Air offensive.

Because Afghanistan airforce is insignificant.

 

[ezsasa]

I sometimes wonder, why on earth did the US not go after the main brain behind Taliban actions against them i.e. ISI/PA. Were they so powerful that even the Americans didn't want to engage/annihilate these perpetrators/root cause of terrorism in the region?!

Maybe the original Cold war agenda of preventing russian access to arabian sea is still in place.
Taliban -> US Military -> Taliban, all three are unfavourable for russian influence in afghanistan.

 

[another_armchair]

Maybe the original Cold war agenda of preventing russian access to arabian sea is still in place.
Taliban -> US Military -> Taliban, all three are unfavourable for russian influence in afghanistan.

Iran-Russia relations have been largely strategic in nature over the past few decades and that gives Russia access to the Arabian sea more easily than through a not so friendly Afghanistan and an extortionist Pakistan.

Just asking..

 

[ezsasa]

Iran-Russia relations have been largely strategic in nature over the past few decades and that gives Russia access to the Arabian sea more easily than through a not so friendly Afghanistan and an extortionist Pakistan.

Just asking..

You are right, incorrect inference on my part.

 

[Sarjen]

Not true. Saudi has sharia laws open beheading yet has msny friends from west. same is true for Pakistan and many other countries as well.

Saudi, Pakistani Sharia is different than the taliban version... have you been to ksa ?? Its different, and you forgot the benefits from the Saudis unlike the taliban...

Though it's a late reply, I would like to highlight today's update, I hope you've seen the mass shooting of afghan spec forces who surrendered to the talibans.......

Let me tell you what, you can't change them, now India have to toe to their/Pakistani lines to reap the investments in Afghanistan

 

[another_armchair]

You are right, incorrect inference on my part.

But US intervened during the Soviet - Afghan war mainly to stop the Soviets advance into Afghanistan-Pakistan which would have given the Soviets access to the Arabian sea so you are correct.

But post Soviet - Afghan war realignment has given Russians access to quite a few areas that were considered no-go zones for them, particularly in Yemen through their Iranian proxies.

 

[captscooby81]

The best support we can do to ANA is giving Air support , Move a Sqn of Su30mki to Ayni and start doing those dumb bomb drops on these goaties . Lets also test our air power plans in real action .

Strange why US is not done it soon
I mean how can a rag tag militia survive a
Air offensive.

Because Afghanistan airforce is insignificant.

 

[Sridhar_TN]

3.88% growth rate on an average. Very good for such a large economy.

Obviously you haven’t taken inflation into account

 

[Jimih]

Maybe the original Cold war agenda of preventing russian access to arabian sea is still in place.
Taliban -> US Military -> Taliban, all three are unfavourable for russian influence in afghanistan.

Also to keep an eye on Iran.

With new Iran Nuclear deal to be signed. US may put little pressure unless Israel ask for it.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Obviously you haven’t taken inflation into account

This is an inflation adjusted growth rate.

 

[rock127]

Cat is out of the bag... or say PIG aka Pakis is out of the bag! As a fact the PIG was always out of the bag and we know who is behind this Taliban!

The dead bodies may well be of Paki special forces assisting Talibunnies. You would never know since Pakis PIGS never accept dead bodies of their own and we saw hundreds Paki PIGS buried on Indian soil.

 

[omaebakabaka]

It will be easier to exert pressure on Pakistan once US is out of Af-Pak for good rather than being dependent on Pakistan for their supply lines.

Nobody in the world or the US establishment has a fuckin clue why they came to Afghanistan in the first place.

To kill Osama? To rebuild Afghanistan? To root out Islamic terror? To get a foothold in Central Asia?

TBH, they failed in all of the above when their prime target lived in a garrison town as a protectee of their biggest GWOT ally, Pakistan and it took them nearly 10 years to nail Osama Bin Laden.

Looks like every couple of decades, US establishment decides to use war as an excuse to get ahead of its adversaries in the defence technology department, rework and refine its war fighting abilities with no intention of winning. They are more status-quoists than our Babus than initially imagined.

Coke ofcourse

 

[Sridhar_TN]

This is an inflation adjusted growth rate.

Ok