Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

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This is the most important lesson to learn for people, especially the gang of younger Indians who tom tom democracy, shared values "human rights" etc. Its' all BS, a geo political tool. The U.S will work with Polpot,Saddam hussein, Baki army, Taliban and any tinpot dictator if it suits their needs. Look at their actions not their sweet words and advice that they so easily give out.
yup, this is indeed an important lesson.

it is very important to establish a very fundamental personal baseline of national self interest by every individual who is interested in observing these geopolitical games. Shouldn’t get carried away with sentiments.

The more simpler & uncluttered the core baseline without ifs and buts the better, a personal individual baseline should be able to withstand seasonal rhetoric and narratives.
 

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In some time Taliban will be at the UN, as part of the deal for letting U.S escape, and maybe even sitting in the UN Human rights Council, lecturing India on Womens Rights..and you can be sure NDTV will run to them for interviews on how to fix the situation :lol:
we'll see more attacks in india.
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just leaving it here.
 

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Was just going to post this.

So blaming Biden/Trump about this is just fluff, the actually deep state had decided this was the way to go and they were going to go ahead anyway regardless of administration, by effectively doing a coup against their own puppet govt that they created after investing time and money.



This is the most important lesson to learn for people, especially the gang of younger Indians who tom tom democracy, shared values "human rights" etc. Its' all BS, a geo political tool. The U.S will work with Polpot,Saddam hussein, Baki army, Taliban and any tinpot dictator if it suits their needs. Look at their actions not their sweet words and advice that they so easily give out.
Deep state also wants weapon sales, armed taliban means insecure neighbours = more weapon sales, more money.
 

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After Taliban gain full control, what are the chances of internal chaos between the various ethnic groups within Taliban (say after a few years)?
not happening. they are well aware of the alleged "killing of innocent buslims in india" by hindu extremists, in short pak's anti-india narrative.
they will stay united most of the time.
 

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Bottom Line first- The US delivered Afg to Taliban & PAK in a plate. Like all Afghans I am unable to sleep, eat and function as a normal being these days. The word to describe my feelings doesn't exist in the dictionary. Here is what I thnk. A thread:

1) The final decision about Afg was made 3 years ago. What? Yes. The US will bring back Taliban into power. Why? US global priorities changed and Afg didn't fall into those. How? Through the Doha and whatever happened in those 3 yrs.

2) Why not just leave? Bcz the end game had to be secured 1st. Wht? No future threat to US et al..from AFG. Who can guarantee tht? An entity that has the ability to stamp its authority all over the territory. Wasn't the AFG gov supposed to do that? Yes but then NO.

3) How to replace AFG gov? Grand strategy for that was to encircle Kabul militarily and negotiate Kabul on Taliban Terms. Diplomacy and military works/worked in tandem with each other at intl/regional and domestic level. NATO, Troika & local power brokers did the diplomacy labor.

4) Why not take Kabul militarily too? To save the face for everything that follows. What? removal of sanctions, release of prisoners, international recognition, avoid & leave no room for tangible future resistance. How? power was negotiate albeit on Taliban terms.

5) Military Strategy: First erode the space the AFG government/potential resistance can fall back into. Where is that? The north. Second: Exhaust the AFG army in the north, cut land routes and fall back spaces to every remaining provinces. Result: The Mass Surrenders.

6) AFG gov and Taliban represent two different and opposing value systems. Why did the US choose the other? Bcz values (HRs, women, free speech bla bla bla) is a commodity to serve imperial interests. If you believe otherwise, avoid facing Afghans for sometime.

7) How will transfer take place in Kabul? 3K+ US & UK military will ensure things wait until KBL is negotiated. Gov resigns, transition gov fully Taliban controlled will be formed.

8) Wht is is in it for me? Afg- ??? US et al- The end game described earlier Pakistan- The World Cup of this game. Iran- Happy with US going out of its backyar China- Serves its geopolitical and economic interests Russia- reduced threats to its zone of influence (CA).

9) US complemented all this with a well played out StratCom responsible for narrative building all along. look at the number of Afg experts suddenly blooming out of nowhere in every public platform.

10) If you wonder why the whole country fell so fast? US wanted to get things done till 9/11 anniv. it ws publicly promised that attacking urban centers is red line and US will conduct bombing. Remind me if you know abt one that made a difference.

11) all in all US tied AFG army’s hands, turned away and let every piece of this game fall in place.

These are Dime a dozen retrospectives.. Now that the taliban rules all of Afghanistan, this guy says that the US wanted the Taliban to ensure that no threat emerges out of Afghanistan to US.. But, till yesterday a 100 experts, were saying that a civil war in Afghanistan is in US interests, as it would destabilize Central Asia, Russia and China..
 

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After Taliban gain full control, what are the chances of internal chaos between the various ethnic groups within Taliban (say after a few years)?
I don't know MAHN
If we can keep them buttfuking each other, and never let the country prosper under shariat, possibility of the "Kashmir cause" taken up by the Talibunnies can be reduced
The same people including Tajiks, Uzbeks, Turks and possibly even Uyghurs were fighting against us in "Jihad-e-kashmir" since that was the talk of the town among Ummah Biradars back in the day
 

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These are Dime a dozen retrospectives.. Now that the taliban rules all of Afghanistan, this guy says that the US wanted the Taliban to ensure that no threat emerges out of Afghanistan to US.. But, till yesterday a 100 experts, were saying that a civil war in Afghanistan is in US interests, as it would destabilize Central Asia, Russia and China..
I doubt that, the wars now a days are fought on economic front. The days of using militants are over.

I mean beginning of the end of Pakistani designs.
 

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