Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

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Thing is American deep state outlasts the rashtrapati.

India will have to get into a NATO style alliance.

The Russians will be with pakis soon.
India is that guy which is on the rise and is seen as a strong country to work with. It is not the issue of choosing , it is the question of strategic convergence with the other country. This has become a multipolar world, where one cannot draw lines and confine relations like Cold War era.
 

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I hope so. Ever since I read about the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere plans Japan had in the 20th century, I have always admired it. The culture, traditions and value-systems of Asian countries are very similar to each other and Western imperialism was hated in every country. Ideally, we should get along with China considering we share their attitude on a lot of issues, including Western subversion. However, considering China's expansionist nature and territorial aggression, that will be very hard to achieve.
Thats what #ehru fell for in the 1960s and got goatfucked by chinis
 

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Apparently, Mullah Baradar is a Durrani Pashtun of the Popalzai tribe, the same as former Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai. Interestingly, he is reputed to be much more moderate than the war-mongering bloodthirsty ranks of the Taliban and was one of the very few who favored talks with the US and the Afghan government.
 

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Bottom Line first- The US delivered Afg to Taliban & PAK in a plate. Like all Afghans I am unable to sleep, eat and function as a normal being these days. The word to describe my feelings doesn't exist in the dictionary. Here is what I thnk. A thread:

1) The final decision about Afg was made 3 years ago. What? Yes. The US will bring back Taliban into power. Why? US global priorities changed and Afg didn't fall into those. How? Through the Doha and whatever happened in those 3 yrs.

2) Why not just leave? Bcz the end game had to be secured 1st. Wht? No future threat to US et al..from AFG. Who can guarantee tht? An entity that has the ability to stamp its authority all over the territory. Wasn't the AFG gov supposed to do that? Yes but then NO.

3) How to replace AFG gov? Grand strategy for that was to encircle Kabul militarily and negotiate Kabul on Taliban Terms. Diplomacy and military works/worked in tandem with each other at intl/regional and domestic level. NATO, Troika & local power brokers did the diplomacy labor.

4) Why not take Kabul militarily too? To save the face for everything that follows. What? removal of sanctions, release of prisoners, international recognition, avoid & leave no room for tangible future resistance. How? power was negotiate albeit on Taliban terms.

5) Military Strategy: First erode the space the AFG government/potential resistance can fall back into. Where is that? The north. Second: Exhaust the AFG army in the north, cut land routes and fall back spaces to every remaining provinces. Result: The Mass Surrenders.

6) AFG gov and Taliban represent two different and opposing value systems. Why did the US choose the other? Bcz values (HRs, women, free speech bla bla bla) is a commodity to serve imperial interests. If you believe otherwise, avoid facing Afghans for sometime.

7) How will transfer take place in Kabul? 3K+ US & UK military will ensure things wait until KBL is negotiated. Gov resigns, transition gov fully Taliban controlled will be formed.

8) Wht is is in it for me? Afg- ??? US et al- The end game described earlier Pakistan- The World Cup of this game. Iran- Happy with US going out of its backyar China- Serves its geopolitical and economic interests Russia- reduced threats to its zone of influence (CA).

9) US complemented all this with a well played out StratCom responsible for narrative building all along. look at the number of Afg experts suddenly blooming out of nowhere in every public platform.

10) If you wonder why the whole country fell so fast? US wanted to get things done till 9/11 anniv. it ws publicly promised that attacking urban centers is red line and US will conduct bombing. Remind me if you know abt one that made a difference.

11) all in all US tied AFG army’s hands, turned away and let every piece of this game fall in place.

 

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Bottom Line first- The US delivered Afg to Taliban & PAK in a plate. Like all Afghans I am unable to sleep, eat and function as a normal being these days. The word to describe my feelings doesn't exist in the dictionary. Here is what I thnk. A thread:

1) The final decision about Afg was made 3 years ago. What? Yes. The US will bring back Taliban into power. Why? US global priorities changed and Afg didn't fall into those. How? Through the Doha and whatever happened in those 3 yrs.

2) Why not just leave? Bcz the end game had to be secured 1st. Wht? No future threat to US et al..from AFG. Who can guarantee tht? An entity that has the ability to stamp its authority all over the territory. Wasn't the AFG gov supposed to do that? Yes but then NO.

3) How to replace AFG gov? Grand strategy for that was to encircle Kabul militarily and negotiate Kabul on Taliban Terms. Diplomacy and military works/worked in tandem with each other at intl/regional and domestic level. NATO, Troika & local power brokers did the diplomacy labor.

4) Why not take Kabul militarily too? To save the face for everything that follows. What? removal of sanctions, release of prisoners, international recognition, avoid & leave no room for tangible future resistance. How? power was negotiate albeit on Taliban terms.

5) Military Strategy: First erode the space the AFG government/potential resistance can fall back into. Where is that? The north. Second: Exhaust the AFG army in the north, cut land routes and fall back spaces to every remaining provinces. Result: The Mass Surrenders.

6) AFG gov and Taliban represent two different and opposing value systems. Why did the US choose the other? Bcz values (HRs, women, free speech bla bla bla) is a commodity to serve imperial interests. If you believe otherwise, avoid facing Afghans for sometime.

7) How will transfer take place in Kabul? 3K+ US & UK military will ensure things wait until KBL is negotiated. Gov resigns, transition gov fully Taliban controlled will be formed.

8) Wht is is in it for me? Afg- ??? US et al- The end game described earlier Pakistan- The World Cup of this game. Iran- Happy with US going out of its backyar China- Serves its geopolitical and economic interests Russia- reduced threats to its zone of influence (CA).

9) US complemented all this with a well played out StratCom responsible for narrative building all along. look at the number of Afg experts suddenly blooming out of nowhere in every public platform.

10) If you wonder why the whole country fell so fast? US wanted to get things done till 9/11 anniv. it ws publicly promised that attacking urban centers is red line and US will conduct bombing. Remind me if you know abt one that made a difference.

11) all in all US tied AFG army’s hands, turned away and let every piece of this game fall in place.

This guy is just not able to digest how corrupt and incompetent Afghan Regime and army was,living as freeloaders with Amreeki dollars
 

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Really sad day but inevitable. The savages will once again rule Afghanistan. All our investments gone to drain as well as our door to Central Asia.
No reason to reach such swift conclusion . All depends on how diplomacy is carried forward . And its shd nt be our concern whether savages or democrats rule . Its job of USA . They are the one sell freedom democracy world wide . Not us .
 

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Bottom Line first- The US delivered Afg to Taliban & PAK in a plate. Like all Afghans I am unable to sleep, eat and function as a normal being these days. The word to describe my feelings doesn't exist in the dictionary. Here is what I thnk. A thread:

1) The final decision about Afg was made 3 years ago. What? Yes. The US will bring back Taliban into power. Why? US global priorities changed and Afg didn't fall into those. How? Through the Doha and whatever happened in those 3 yrs.

2) Why not just leave? Bcz the end game had to be secured 1st. Wht? No future threat to US et al..from AFG. Who can guarantee tht? An entity that has the ability to stamp its authority all over the territory. Wasn't the AFG gov supposed to do that? Yes but then NO.

3) How to replace AFG gov? Grand strategy for that was to encircle Kabul militarily and negotiate Kabul on Taliban Terms. Diplomacy and military works/worked in tandem with each other at intl/regional and domestic level. NATO, Troika & local power brokers did the diplomacy labor.

4) Why not take Kabul militarily too? To save the face for everything that follows. What? removal of sanctions, release of prisoners, international recognition, avoid & leave no room for tangible future resistance. How? power was negotiate albeit on Taliban terms.

5) Military Strategy: First erode the space the AFG government/potential resistance can fall back into. Where is that? The north. Second: Exhaust the AFG army in the north, cut land routes and fall back spaces to every remaining provinces. Result: The Mass Surrenders.

6) AFG gov and Taliban represent two different and opposing value systems. Why did the US choose the other? Bcz values (HRs, women, free speech bla bla bla) is a commodity to serve imperial interests. If you believe otherwise, avoid facing Afghans for sometime.

7) How will transfer take place in Kabul? 3K+ US & UK military will ensure things wait until KBL is negotiated. Gov resigns, transition gov fully Taliban controlled will be formed.

8) Wht is is in it for me? Afg- ??? US et al- The end game described earlier Pakistan- The World Cup of this game. Iran- Happy with US going out of its backyar China- Serves its geopolitical and economic interests Russia- reduced threats to its zone of influence (CA).

9) US complemented all this with a well played out StratCom responsible for narrative building all along. look at the number of Afg experts suddenly blooming out of nowhere in every public platform.

10) If you wonder why the whole country fell so fast? US wanted to get things done till 9/11 anniv. it ws publicly promised that attacking urban centers is red line and US will conduct bombing. Remind me if you know abt one that made a difference.

11) all in all US tied AFG army’s hands, turned away and let every piece of this game fall in place.

Was just going to post this.

So blaming Biden/Trump about this is just fluff, the actually deep state had decided this was the way to go and they were going to go ahead anyway regardless of administration, by effectively doing a coup against their own puppet govt that they created after investing time and money.

6) AFG gov and Taliban represent two different and opposing value systems. Why did the US choose the other? Bcz values (HRs, women, free speech bla bla bla) is a commodity to serve imperial interests. If you believe otherwise, avoid facing Afghans for sometime.
This is the most important lesson to learn for people, especially the gang of younger Indians who tom tom democracy, shared values "human rights" etc. Its' all BS, a geo political tool. The U.S will work with Polpot,Saddam hussein, Baki army, Taliban and any tinpot dictator if it suits their needs. Look at their actions not their sweet words and advice that they so easily give out.
 

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